"the intent of this article was to provide a snapshot of the kind of gaming and geek porn that's out there now "
Ok?
you be quiet
you put us on the FBI pervert list
"the intent of this article was to provide a snapshot of the kind of gaming and geek porn that's out there now "
Ok?
this is good but it's truly dumbfounding that it ever got this far in the editorial process
kinds of depictions of characters who are often depicted as or thought of as teenagers.
"the intent of this article was to provide a snapshot of the kind of gaming and geek porn that's out there now "
Ok?
Readers are understandably uncomfortable about these kinds of depictions of characters who are often depicted as or thought of as teenagers.
via WikipediaCurrently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Australia, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, South Korea, and the United Kingdom
This. I just don't get what the article was supposed to tell me. The budget for animated porn should be higher?Pictures aside, I don't even understand the point of the article. Sounds like she just wanted to watch some animated porn and then explain in detail what each scene was about. Like wtf?
Pictures aside, I don't even understand the point of the article. Sounds like she just wanted to watch some animated porn and then explain in detail what each scene was about. Like wtf?
She has been doing pieces on the crossover between porn and games, this is just the latest one. I mean as far as I can tell the article is done with some refrain on the material she is watching; like she is fascinated by something disgusting and ridiculous. Not sure why though? That could have been handle a lot better.Pictures aside, I don't even understand the point of the article. Sounds like she just wanted to watch some animated porn and then explain in detail what each scene was about. Like wtf?
Honestly, I'm sorry that I linked that shit without thinking. It was NSFL, and I feel bad knowing that someone might have been triggered by the footage.
Seriously you cannot downplay it if they are depicted as teenagers they are teenagers irrelevant to how they look Misty etc. are all kids teens it is CP and it is gross.They ARE teenagers. And one of them was shown being RAPED.
What the hell kind of attempt at downplaying is this!?
The writer went private on twitter.Did the writer apologize or anything? What a weird choice to write that up and post those pictures.
You think people go to prison because they googled an anime character and Google Images pulls up some hentai?
Like yeah, maybe if you downloaded the pictures posted in this article in the UK you would have a problem.
Reading a Kotaku article is not the same as downloading the images onto your computer.
The term 'making' could include:
- opening an attachment to an email containing an image
- downloading an image from a website onto a computer screen
- storing an image in a directory on a computer
- accessing a website in which images appeared by way of an automatic "pop up" mechanism
The article was telling you that a lot of rule 34/fandom porn is fucked up and gross. They could've done that without posting the actual content in question (and absolutely should have) but it's worth discussing.This. I just don't get what the article was supposed to tell me. The budget for animated porn should be higher?
No one is going to jail for clicking on this Kotaku article.Actually it is.
Your computer caching something counting as making a stand-alone copy is a fundamental part of law regarding all digital aspects. It's what gave rise to stuff like shrink-wrap licenses.
They ARE teenagers. And one of them was shown being RAPED.
What the hell kind of attempt at downplaying is this!?
Drawings of underage people. If you were to draw a rudimentary stick man fucking a kid and then showed that to a cop you'd be locked up faster than shitIt's because they're fictional. That's always what it comes down to. They're not 10 years old or 1000 years old in their mind because they're not real, they're simply drawings.
They might not be able to, under Gawker, they weren't allowed to delete an article for any reason which became a big problem for sister site io9 when it turned out an author was plagiarising their articles. Wonder if the same policy is still in affect?They really wanna keep that article up, huh? You'd think it won't be worth it at this point. Guess they don't want to upset the writer. Ridiculous.
"in retrospect"While the intent of this article was to provide a snapshot of the kind of gaming and geek porn that's out there now, it's clear in retrospect that, in terms of the images and the analysis you expect from us, we made a mistake.
"In addition, Section 1466A of Title 18, United State Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene. This statute offers an alternative 2-pronged test for obscenity with a lower threshold than the Miller test. The matter involving minors can be deemed obscene if it (i) depicts an image that is, or appears to be a minor engaged in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse and (ii) if the image lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. A first time offender convicted under this statute faces fines and at least 5 years to a maximum of 20 years in prison "It's because they're fictional. That's always what it comes down to. They're not 10 years old or 1000 years old in their mind because they're not real, they're simply drawings.
No it wasn't. The article was mocking the pornography by saying it's cheap garbage and saying it should be higher quality and improved. It's not some fucking deep and nuanced take on R34 porn, lol.The article was telling you that a lot of rule 34/fandom porn is fucked up and gross. They could've done that without posting the actual content in question (and absolutely should have) but it's worth discussing.
No one is going to jail for clicking on this Kotaku article.
Obscenity statutes haven't been used for decades because hardly anything gets passed the "lacking artistic value" portion."In addition, Section 1466A of Title 18, United State Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene. This statute offers an alternative 2-pronged test for obscenity with a lower threshold than the Miller test. The matter involving minors can be deemed obscene if it (i) depicts an image that is, or appears to be a minor engaged in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse and (ii) if the image lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. A first time offender convicted under this statute faces fines and at least 5 years to a maximum of 20 years in prison "
There are plenty of parts of the article where she says that what's happening on screen makes her uncomfortable or is problematic. I'm not saying it's a good article, but at no point is it suggesting any of this stuff is positive.No it wasn't. The article was mocking the pornography by saying it's cheap garbage and saying it should be higher quality and improved. It's not some fucking deep and nuanced take on R34 porn, lol.
Edit: We reading the same article or what?
Just after they put up a real excuse and don't work with that freelancer anymore. What do you think?
There are plenty of parts of the article where she says that what's happening on screen makes her uncomfortable or is problematic. I'm not saying it's a good article, but at no point is it suggesting any of this stuff is positive.
"in retrospect"
Yes, truly, only the power of hindsight could have foreseen that this entire thing was a BAD FUCKING IDEA
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'Obscene' U.S. Manga Collector Jailed 6 MonthsObscenity statutes haven't been used for decades because hardly anything gets passed the "lacking artistic value" portion.
Kate Gray
She's a freelancer, and a narrative designer at an indie company.Looking at the previous articles for this author, I see a pattern:
She desperately needs a boyfriend.Looking at the previous articles for this author, I see a pattern:
The article is not saying rape is OK. Its saying the fictional rape porn is gross and uncomfortable. There is tons of rape porn out there, I think it's entirely fair for media to comment on that. The problem is in posting actual images from it which can be triggering for people with sexual trauma, especially without trigger warnings.
Like, I just did a google search for Misty (with safe search off), and it did not take long for arguably sexual images to pop up, including one with nudity. No explicit sex, but I'm sure a quick trip to a million different image galleries/communities could solve that.
The internet has always collectively turned a blind eye to this stuff, simply because it's fictional. Ignoring it/handwaving it away leads to complacency, and complacency leads to articles like this where someone can post this stuff and seemingly, at no point in the process, genuinely think about what they're doing. And what this porn is depicting. They don't think of it in the same terms as real porn simply "because" it's fictional. No one is being "harmed" by fictional depictions. They're not "real".
And since there's no way on Earth you'd ever be able to have any sort of objective study on the effects of the availability of fictional depictions of child pornography, they'll hide behind the "it's not real what's the big deal" excuse for as long as possible because it's on you to prove it's harmful, rather than them to prove it's not.
It's extra hard when countries like Japan fight so hard against laws that would start to restrict stuff like this, usually in the name of artistic freedom and under the guise of fighting "censorship".
I fully believe this article was written and approved by the sole metric of "horny kids will click on this". This is the equivalent of writing an article about Fortnite porno, and simply picking other random properties kids might have been interested in and not really thinking too far beyond that. This kind of stuff really is common the moment you wander away from the "mainstream" internet. It's a testament to how much people genuinely don't stop and think about what this stuff is actually depicting.
Also want to point out if your temp folder is on a traditional HDD, even after deleting the files they may linger until that data is eventually overwritten (if ever).
That's kind of my point
Kate Gray
She's a freelancer, and a narrative designer at an indie company.