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Did Etrian Odyssey die with the DS?
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Oh, I must have missed the news.
Thanks.
They already announced the next, non-3DS entry early last year.
Well, they haven't mentioned a platform, but like 99.9% chance it's on Switch :P It'll probably beat SMTV to the system too.
It's not going to be what it was - you can't truly replicate that feeling of drawing your own paper map without the 3DS stylus - but it'll continue. Hopefully it's an inspired a transition as possible, and hopefully it leads to us getting a Strange Journey 2 someday. :P
They should had made Wii U ports.
It's the only other dual screen console, ever.
At least the core idea died with the 3ds. That said the games can return without drawing your own map on a second screen.
No reason for it to die, dungeon crawlers can be done without dual screen. Day 1 for me when the next one arrives (hopefully no later than 2020).
Well if the next Nintendo console is a Switch 2 that shouldn't be a problem and no one will complain.
I expect the next game will take a little longer, since it will have to be a bigger departure than the previous games in the series. They probably are going to make some significant changes both graphically and gameplay-wise. Personally I'm excited to see what they come up with! I trust the team and I expect the gameplay mechanics to remain fun and tightly crafted, no matter what they do.
I do hope it's on Switch. The alternative, I guess, is that it could be a mobile game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was that, but I am hoping for Switch.
I do hope it's on Switch. The alternative, I guess, is that it could be a mobile game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was that, but I am hoping for Switch.
I'm not sure how the games would work without the dual-screen/touchscreen setup. I mean, yes, you could do another dungeon crawler set in the Etrian universe, but without the immediately-accessible mapping, Etrian Odyssey isn't really Etrian Odyssey.
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Maybe Mistover can tie you over until they release a new EO:
They battle system is very different and it's a roguelike, but it oozes EO style.
I'm aware of this, loved the demo but waiting for bit of a discount!
No way. Even without the mapping mechanics EO has more than enough unique features to set it apart from other dungeon crawlers. It isn't like there is a huge amount of competition in the genre right now anyway.
I could definitely see Atlus going mulitplatform with the series for an entry or two to see how it will sell to a wider audience.
I could definitely see Atlus going mulitplatform with the series for an entry or two to see how it will sell to a wider audience.
Maybe Mistover can tie you over until they release a new EO:
The battle system is very different and it's a roguelike, but it oozes EO style.
I played this a bit and it really didn't scratch the same itch as EO. Gameplay-wise it is 80% Darkest Dungeon. Its artstyle takes a lot from EO and it shares the town layout but the dungeons are only one-level procedurally generated maps.
Labyrinth of Refrain is the closest game I can think of on the switch until the real thing comes out eventually.
Possibly. I think it's safe to say we'll see at least one new entry on the Switch. I think the loss of the second screen will be less of an issue compared to the increase in budget due to HD graphics and the system being hybrid handheld/console experience. The series was somewhat consistent sales wise with a fairly dedicated fanbase, but sales were still pretty low overall. It might be hard to justify continuing the series if sales don't scale with the likely substantial increase in development costs. They'll need to find a way to increase its appeal.
Gameplay wise some changes will have to occur due to the change in hardware setup and no second screen, but I think they need to change up a lot more. Namely the character designs. I pretty much dropped the series because of that despite liking the core gameplay and style of the series. It's super off putting and not something I ever want to be seen playing in public, which is kind of detrimental to a series dedicated to handhelds. Hard to say though if changing the character designs/art style would really attract new fans or just put off old fans though. But I think this is the right time to do it, it's a major transition for the series and some shakeups are warranted.
Gameplay wise some changes will have to occur due to the change in hardware setup and no second screen, but I think they need to change up a lot more. Namely the character designs. I pretty much dropped the series because of that despite liking the core gameplay and style of the series. It's super off putting and not something I ever want to be seen playing in public, which is kind of detrimental to a series dedicated to handhelds. Hard to say though if changing the character designs/art style would really attract new fans or just put off old fans though. But I think this is the right time to do it, it's a major transition for the series and some shakeups are warranted.
I don't think it's dead at all. The combat, class system, art, music, and level design are too good for EO to just die.
We literally got that teaser as well, just wait.
We literally got that teaser as well, just wait.
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Somebody suggested (forgot where) that they could get around the idea with drawing the map out with an app on your smartphone. Not the most elegant solution but it works.
I hope not, the map feature is unique and brilliant but the gameplay in the battles and customisation is incredible. Currently on the 9th labyrinth in nexus and enjoying it as much as the first and fourth entries. I would really like to see more dungeon crawler games but more variety in art direction would be nice.
And I was having a random thought but what if the switch version allowed for the option to run into other players parties in the game in real time. Like you do with some story parties in the previous games except here you could exchange items, offer advice or battle if you meet another player on the same floor, think that would interesting at least to try.
And I was having a random thought but what if the switch version allowed for the option to run into other players parties in the game in real time. Like you do with some story parties in the previous games except here you could exchange items, offer advice or battle if you meet another player on the same floor, think that would interesting at least to try.
This series has the best music and skill systems of any rpg ever created in the history of the universe. Proved by scientists in a lab.
They said the intend to continue the series at least, as others have said. It'll no doubt have a much longer development time though, not only due to developing for a new console but also they'll presumably be assessing how to take the series forward if they have to drop the map feature.
I remember some obnoxious guy here insisting Etrian Odyssey couldn't be made for the Switch because it would be unplayable without a second screen. Which is stupid as hell, it'll come eventually. I imagine the studio is focused on SMT V right now.
The games do rely heavily on FOE puzzles so having the map always present is a necessity. But screens are much bigger now so it's possible to have all the info you need on one screen
I hope we see EO Switch soon. Cant wait to see how they'll change things up and adjust the mapping
I kinda like how Sega add a map for Phantasy Star, and I can see a similar idea for a Switch EO game. I think more than make the layout of the map, it's more important to put elements on it, but if Atlus put a solution to fans who want the traditional experience it would be nice.
I think the next EO will have multiple options anyway (the option of above, or ignore the map on screen unless you press a button), but because this involve update their engine and tools that's why we are not seeing a port of a old game.
Isn't there some important feature that's locked behind doing the maps? I forget, it's been a while.
In the 3DS game they just have automapping, you turn it on in the options and it works like every other DRPG around, it just draws where you walk. You still have to explore the map but that's fairly common in the genre so I assume your issue was specifically having to draw it with the stylus and stuff.
Which, I can get, I found it kinda fun to do but at the same time it was eating a lot of time for really not that much. I know people swear by the map drawing mechanic but personally if they removed it I wouldn't mind, I'd still play the game, I like the classes, the combat mechanics, the music and the dungeon design much more than the act of drawing maps. Every other game in the genre is pretty much automapping, and I never think "damn I wish I could just draw my own map in this too", just need the ability to add notes to the map(like "this needs silver key" or "weird stuff across" or whatever).
I do hope now that they're not tied to 3DS they think about the potential of porting the future entries to PC, I think they could probably sell them decently well there too.
So weird to see this posted, I just bought Etrian Odyssey 5 for like 15 bucks on Amazon yesteryday. Looking forward to playing it tonight.