Never. I'll go without until I can just walk into a store and buy one. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction.
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Did anyone else buy a PS5 from a scalper? (OP scammed, Help inside)
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I just ran the conversion, and that's about $1,061 USD, more than twice what the retail is here.
My god.
I clicked on the thread hopeful for a positive story of how a scalper was stupid and accidentally set the buy it now price to a low amount.
Goddammit OP
Goddammit OP
Yup. Both consoles are coming in hot with their own issues. Paying extra for consoles with questionable failure rates and NO warranty? Moral implications aside, it's a terrible choice.
People need better tools and/or help on how to manage those impulses and stop being reckless with money. There will always be yet another new shiny thing in the future, products with official and unofficial markets pushing more stuff for those hapless consumers. Plain budgeting would help in most cases, as then one can't use money that you don't have.
No.
I was tempted but the prices and the practise is insane. Thankfully I got one but there really needs to be a better way to stop this practise
I was tempted but the prices and the practise is insane. Thankfully I got one but there really needs to be a better way to stop this practise
People really need to learn how to delay gratification. This is why this stuff happens. Plus the FOMO.
Why not just wait till after the new year to get one? I personally don't even want to order one online unless it's for store pick up because I am scared of all the delivery stories. I was awake when Kohl's had the bundles up, added to my cart and then I said fuck it and emptied my cart and went to sleep. I can wait till they are in stores plus MY PC and Switch are fine for me right now.
You paid £800 to play 99% games that are currently available on other systems you own and, what, Demon's Souls?
Holy shit. That's mind boggling. The truly hilarious part would be if OP didn't even care about Demon's Souls lol
Holy shit. That's mind boggling. The truly hilarious part would be if OP didn't even care about Demon's Souls lol
Something similar with me.
I only ordered one for myself, was so anxious whether I would receive it or not. Over the moon when I got it Friday evening.
Next day work asked me if I could work some other extra days the coming month, which would limit my gaming time obv.
So was curious how much id get for selling it. Started out as a joke thing, but the same day I sold it for €900...
The dude had already bought 2, this was the third. He was gifting it to his niece and nephews.
Like it may sound stupid, but at this point if I kept it I would feel like I myself paid 900 instead of 500 lol. I can wait till Christmas 😅 at least I hope I can get one by then. Surely must be some stock for holiday period. Heard some rumours about stock in early December.
Hopefully the next consoles have more stocks in store. So long as it's online only, we will be at the mercy of bots and people buying multiple times, crashing websites, cancelled pre-orders etc...
I understand because of covid everything is online, but online is way worse than in-store and they should also do away with pre-orders, in my opinion. Have like a stock of 100 at a store, first 100 people get one
God why won't sites do something about these pieces of human trash, nobody should have that many ps5's unless they used illegal bots to bypass stores one per customer rule. And they are now selling them at twice to 4 times it's original price.Those are two random announcements from an italian site where ppl sells their stuff privately:
there are dozens of announcements like this, it's sickening, fuck them indeed.
Why won't online sellers do something about this? Currently amazon is the only one who won't allow 3rd party seller ps5's to be sold on their site. The other sites should follow suit at least until they have stock so scalpers can't do this.
The problem it is proportional to the damage they can cause. We had a scalper earlier who tried scalp hand sanitizer during this pandemic. While it may not look the same on a moral level sanitizer was a needed item and consoles are not, they are the same to scalpers, as they are desired item that would sellout and they saw an opportunity to make a quick buck. They know they are taking advantage of people who desire such items but they don't care. At least companies took a stand against that sanitizer scalper. Unfortunately the only company taking a stand against ps5 and xbox series x scalpers is amazon, meaning these shitty people will continue to do this shitty practice because they can get away with it 99% of the time.
Oh yeah, COVID is a massive factor seemingly production wise and the lack of stores. Usually I would be able to walk into my local game and be able to get a console even on launch day, but it being online just puts people at the mercy of bots
No, and I gave up trying to get one for now. Not wasting my time, plus a PS5 pro may show up, who knows.
Nope, if I can't get a console from a legitimate source then I don't need one. TheGreatJordan, you probably just purchased one of the many stolen systems ..
Never. Scalpers are scum and I wouldn't give them the satisfaction. All they have done is drive drmand even higher and set the most ridiculous prices. Retailers allowing people to buy dozens of them is ridiculous. I'll wait until stores open again and I can walk in and buy one. The battle online is futile for the most part.
I guess I'm glad some people have enough money to throw like that but all you did was to support that practice, buying something that will be manfactured for at least the next 7 years, probably a cheaper and better version down the line and getting it day one when there is nothing worth playing yet.
And they will keep doing it because of people like you.
I'm probably going to buy from a scalper.
Having a launch window console is always part of the next-gen experience for me. That excitement of having the system early and getting to experience all of the games alongside their release. To take part in their release discussions and whatnot, it's worth the markup for me.
I do think scalping is amoral, and I get that purchasing them feeds into that, but I do feel that the hatred that people feel towards scalpers is disproportionate to the harm that they are actually causing. They're raising the price of some launch systems... really, so what?
If we're going to blast someone for buying one of these consoles on poor ethical grounds, then the consoles themselves are literally manufactured by people who are mistreated. The manufacturing conditions at Sony, Nintendo's and Microsoft's factories are poor. Scalpers are annoying, but the item they're holding over you is an item of pure leisure. The PS5 is pretty high up on maslow need heirachy, no one is truly suffering without it.
I think it's naive to think that the 'scalping business' will somehow cease to continue if we advocate against making these purchases. The scalping market exists because of the fundamentals of free market capitalism (and the poorly designed websites, that allow one person to take all the preorders).
You might be able to kill the markup price with less people interested, but so long as the product is unavailable there will be a desire to attain it that cannot be fulfilled. This is a supply and demand problem that scalpers were able to take advantage of because of how the goods are sold.
No matter what you tell people on a forum, or wherever else, that consumer demand isn't going to go away. It's reflected by the sheer fact that the product sold out, to begin with. Less demand would lead to lower prices, but there would still be a massive number of resellers so long as the manufacturer cannot supply their demand.
Personally I think that pre-orders should have been first offered to people with active PSN accounts, and then the general public. I don't know if that would cause other issues but I have friends who are on PSN every day, spend thousands on PS games every year, and they cannot acquire a system. How it was all handled seems silly to me.
Having a launch window console is always part of the next-gen experience for me. That excitement of having the system early and getting to experience all of the games alongside their release. To take part in their release discussions and whatnot, it's worth the markup for me.
I do think scalping is amoral, and I get that purchasing them feeds into that, but I do feel that the hatred that people feel towards scalpers is disproportionate to the harm that they are actually causing. They're raising the price of some launch systems... really, so what?
If we're going to blast someone for buying one of these consoles on poor ethical grounds, then the consoles themselves are literally manufactured by people who are mistreated. The manufacturing conditions at Sony, Nintendo's and Microsoft's factories are poor. Scalpers are annoying, but the item they're holding over you is an item of pure leisure. The PS5 is pretty high up on maslow need heirachy, no one is truly suffering without it.
I think it's naive to think that the 'scalping business' will somehow cease to continue if we advocate against making these purchases. The scalping market exists because of the fundamentals of free market capitalism (and the poorly designed websites, that allow one person to take all the preorders).
You might be able to kill the markup price with less people interested, but so long as the product is unavailable there will be a desire to attain it that cannot be fulfilled. This is a supply and demand problem that scalpers were able to take advantage of because of how the goods are sold.
No matter what you tell people on a forum, or wherever else, that consumer demand isn't going to go away. It's reflected by the sheer fact that the product sold out, to begin with. Less demand would lead to lower prices, but there would still be a massive number of resellers so long as the manufacturer cannot supply their demand.
Personally I think that pre-orders should have been first offered to people with active PSN accounts, and then the general public. I don't know if that would cause other issues but I have friends who are on PSN every day, spend thousands on PS games every year, and they cannot acquire a system. How it was all handled seems silly to me.
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Videogames aren't that important. Just wait. Learning to wait is one of the best thing you can do for your own life.
wat, so thieves and scalpers are just poor souls trying to get some food money, scalpers are usually people with already a good bunch of money who want to make more from suckers, it is a bad practice from everyone involved. But that is how our market works, I just hope people who support it selling / buying aren't the ones later complaining about it.
I've seriously thought about it...
Checking Kijiji in my area every now and then and most are going for like $1100 CAD.
I can afford it, but fuck I just can't pay that much of a premium.
PS5 is a hot fucking item this year and I've already resigned myself to probably not getting one until next year. =(
That said, I'll survive lol
Checking Kijiji in my area every now and then and most are going for like $1100 CAD.
I can afford it, but fuck I just can't pay that much of a premium.
PS5 is a hot fucking item this year and I've already resigned myself to probably not getting one until next year. =(
That said, I'll survive lol
All I see on my Twitter feed is endless alerts for retailers dropping more PS5s on their sites. I've had like half a dozen real chances to get one the last few days and I'm not even looking in earnest, put in some effort.
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Congratulations, you just enabled them. I mean, more power to you if you are insanely rich, but 350 pounds to play a remake and / or a four-hour game a few months earlier is pretty much insane from my perspective, unless you are really rich and need not care.
Just be patient and wait until spring (or next holiday for Xmas bundles like what I plan to do). If I do manage to secure one from now to the end of the year, I'm flipping that shit to suckers like u for obscene amounts of money
I did. At this point in my life it made more sense to spend an extra $300 than to continually spend time refreshing websites and to distract from my responsibilities. Plus, my spouse hates when I become super hyperfocused on something (i.e. need to get a PS5) and would rather I just resolve it quickly if possible.
This is actually one of the things where my views are surprisingly pro capitalism. I can't begrudge someone hustling if that person isn't doing something illegal to obtain the items.
This is actually one of the things where my views are surprisingly pro capitalism. I can't begrudge someone hustling if that person isn't doing something illegal to obtain the items.
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I'd never pay for a system above RRP unless it was some sort of bundle with extra items that I could resell. £800 is insane when the system is £450. I'd just wait.
As it so happens, I've been a victim of scalpers for something I really want - the Ryzen 7 5800X. I tried to buy it on launch day but fucking bots snatched up all the orders and now I'm in some pre-order queue for god-knows how long. Meanwhile, some asshats are selling them with £100 or more markup on RRP on eBay. Absolute scum. Even so, they're not getting a single penny from me.
Given that scalping is only getting worse, if I were a manufacturer I'd run some sort of centralised pre-order system that operates on a lottery and gives out coupons for different stores that allows you to purchase the system. I'm not sure exactly how it'd work in detail, but I'd quite like to see some sort of identification verification (like an active card check that allows one pre-order per address), and the pre-order system runs for a week or two at which point everyone is allocated a purchase wave at random. I don't think first come first serve is a fair way of doing things when people have to work when these orders go live, or are beaten to checkout by bots who can do things infinitely faster than a human, especially when traffic grinds the online stores to a halt.
As it so happens, I've been a victim of scalpers for something I really want - the Ryzen 7 5800X. I tried to buy it on launch day but fucking bots snatched up all the orders and now I'm in some pre-order queue for god-knows how long. Meanwhile, some asshats are selling them with £100 or more markup on RRP on eBay. Absolute scum. Even so, they're not getting a single penny from me.
Given that scalping is only getting worse, if I were a manufacturer I'd run some sort of centralised pre-order system that operates on a lottery and gives out coupons for different stores that allows you to purchase the system. I'm not sure exactly how it'd work in detail, but I'd quite like to see some sort of identification verification (like an active card check that allows one pre-order per address), and the pre-order system runs for a week or two at which point everyone is allocated a purchase wave at random. I don't think first come first serve is a fair way of doing things when people have to work when these orders go live, or are beaten to checkout by bots who can do things infinitely faster than a human, especially when traffic grinds the online stores to a halt.
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