seeing as this game is 2 to 3 years away, I am pretty sure stuff will change
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Diablo IV announced
- Thread starter NotLiquid
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Suit yourself. There's a history to the company and the franchise that legit warns you against this but you do you. I won't be shocked at all when the inner systems that have clearly yet to even be developed (helllooooooooo copy and paste from D3) don't look anything or work anything like this in 2 years.
Yep, its just the customization, change of design and freedom, and general direction that Im looking at here. And its all great. Beyond that I know better than to take it too seriously, D3 once looked like this:
Yeah, that is what I fear most too, based on what I have seen. If the game is not 100% soloable, and somewhat within the same efficiency as group play (D3 already is way too group-focused imo) that would be a deal breaker.
Like that big boss in the demo. It seems to be in an non-instanced part of the world, where you can see pother people (MMO'ish). Does it scale based on how many are attacking it? Or is it just a lot harder solo than in a group.
Sure but a lot of it is very similar to stuff already exists and we know what worked and what didn't work. That's why feedback is given now so they can tweak it. I doubt most of it is changed though, it's very integral to the system and it generally clues you in how they are approaching D4 which is "keep the systems and playstyle of D3 but add a layer of D2 mechanics on top of it." Basically this stuff doesn't impress in 2019 and will not impress in 2021 or whevener the game releases.
Game looks good but definitely alittle *off* you can tell it still has a ways to go before its done.
As a D3 player with a lot of hours.. this looks the same, gameplay wise. Even the character selection/menu looks the damn same. The streamer impressions give me a worse feeling.
They had how many years to build a reveal? How is this what they're showing off?
I don't care about cinematics, just give me good and deep gameplay with a solid endgame.
I've got a bad feeling about this
They had how many years to build a reveal? How is this what they're showing off?
I don't care about cinematics, just give me good and deep gameplay with a solid endgame.
I've got a bad feeling about this
Higher likelihood of that happening if people actually express their concerns and criticism based on what they see of the game now though. I'm fairly sure the devs even specifically said they wanted to hear this kind of feedback during the panel
Yeah definitely.
It is 100% certain that the stats you see in the demo are not final, probably not even in early design state yet. And people also seem to be simplifying things a bit here, I have seen various different stats in the short time I have spent looking on demo streaming.
But it is never too early to give feedback. Even if they hadn't shown anything it would still be fine to give that feedback.
Don't want to port beg, but it's strange that they didn't bother to announce it for switch as well, after Diablo 3 was a huge success for the system.
It is. The only thing you won't likely be able to do alone are the world events, like that boss shown in the demo, which are just extras anyway.
Looks interesting. Looking forward to the demo/beta whenever that one releases.
Hopefully with cross play, cross save etc.
Hopefully with cross play, cross save etc.
For those wondering about an offline mode, not happening as it will be always online (like D3)
"Diablo 4 will not have an offline mode and will require an internet connection to play, Blizzard said during an interview at BlizzCon today.
We asked lead designer Joe Shely if it was possible to play Diablo 4 offline. "There's a large, seamless, connected, and shared space in the world, going down into dungeons, being able to group with your friends, trading and PvP. We feel that the best way to experience that is in a world that is online," Shely responded."
"Diablo 4 will not have an offline mode and will require an internet connection to play, Blizzard said during an interview at BlizzCon today.
We asked lead designer Joe Shely if it was possible to play Diablo 4 offline. "There's a large, seamless, connected, and shared space in the world, going down into dungeons, being able to group with your friends, trading and PvP. We feel that the best way to experience that is in a world that is online," Shely responded."
They might force the online mode on Consoles this time too. we will see in a few years.
Would majority of console players be for or against it? Seen quite a bit complaints about hackers, edited items etc.
99% soloable then. Still a far cry from the MMO you are afraid it will be.
This. Cooldowns and limited skill access blow. The gameplay looks way too damn similar to D3.
In AWE.
It's a damn shame this isn't her main design. It's a far more interesting design than the other one
Yeah after watching the demos the talent trees and skills are ridiculously simple.
Quinn was talking with a developer and asked if it was so basic because it was just a demo and he was like "no, this is how it is in the latest build of the game".
Developer also said crafting will be improved upon from D3, but it didn't sound like it's going to have anywhere near the depth of crafting from PoE.
Not good.
I don't understand why they can't accommodate both single and multiplayer experiences without limitations of resorting to an always online connection.
They should be able to have multiplayer servers have online only saves part of both private and seasonal ladders and offline characters being restricted to either couch offline multiplayer or public-only lobbies.
Restricting private or seasonal characters with an online only save system with sanity checks has always been a deterrent towards cheats. In regards to someone's offline single player experience has no impact for me, especially if an offline specific character cannot go into a private lobby or a seasonal ladder.
Having more choice is better than less options.
They should be able to have multiplayer servers have online only saves part of both private and seasonal ladders and offline characters being restricted to either couch offline multiplayer or public-only lobbies.
Restricting private or seasonal characters with an online only save system with sanity checks has always been a deterrent towards cheats. In regards to someone's offline single player experience has no impact for me, especially if an offline specific character cannot go into a private lobby or a seasonal ladder.
Having more choice is better than less options.
Her design has those horns tho?
Or are you referring to that three pointed blood "dress" she has at end of CGI? How you would make something like that practical as part of her body?
Yeah they MMO'ified Diablo. Not really interested TBH, in a world with POE and other quality hack'n'slash games Diablo feels backwards now. It used to be the what people looked forward, now Blizzard is studying how these games beat them at their own game.
because Blizzard won't do it. They will give us the console option of offline with cheaters and the PC option of online without cheaters. I don't foresee them doing anything different than they did with Diablo 3.
In a hypothetical situation where it comes out on a Switch 2 I don't think you can force online. D3 on Switch had been one of my main go-to lunch break games at work and where I play I can't get wifi.
That is exactly what I said in my post.
If you care to read the tweet further up from PCGamer it's implied that that the game is online at ALL times, including when playing solo as seeing as D4 is being developed as a multiplatform release from the get-go as opposed to PC first and ported to consoles later on. This might also be a forgone conclusion of the game being always online even for consoles, which means less options.
Hard to put into words really. The above one just feels much more iconic and memorable than the design I assume is her "main" design in the game
Like, of these two designs, which is the more striking and memorable one in your view?
I personally find the translucent design with a huge membrane for a cape to be far superior to what kinda looks like Kerrigan with horns in a ragged dress
Not really imo, It is one those either/or things. Either 100% or not. Hopefully a thing they are going to change. It sends a clear sign about their design choices otherwise if they are remotely okay with having "raid" content in an A-RPG. Hard to imagine they would care about keeping other parts of the game balanced either, or not have those raid bosses give any rewards.
I am concerned about Druid gameplay given how their resource seems to work. I doesn't even seem possible to just be a caster. That should be a viable choice. Same with Barbarian honestly, having 80 weapons auto-switching kind takes the flair out of things.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Hopefully that version of her will be in the actual game at some point, it's definitely the superior version.Hard to put into words really. The above one just feels much more iconic and memorable than the design I assume is her "main" design in the game
Like, of these two designs, which is the more striking and memorable one in your view?
I personally find the translucent design with a huge membrane for a cape to be far superior to what kinda looks like Kerrigan with horns in a ragged dress
First looks really good. Second looks like UT3Hard to put into words really. The above one just feels much more iconic and memorable than the design I assume is her "main" design in the game
Like, of these two designs, which is the more striking and memorable one in your view?
I personally find the translucent design with a huge membrane for a cape to be far superior to what kinda looks like Kerrigan with horns in a ragged dress
Open world areas where you can run into other players, without having joined/invited them.
I'm fine with that being an option. But it should also be an option to go into an empty game instance.
isn't Diablo trying to combine all the greater evils to bring back Tathamet
the 7 headed Dragon
the 7 headed Dragon
Cinematic trailer was fantastic, Blizzard is still top-tier in the industry in that regard.
Gameplay looked solid and I like what I'm seeing so far.
Gameplay looked solid and I like what I'm seeing so far.
World map as it's currently: https://www.twitch.tv/rhykker/clip/YawningDullBeanDxAbomb?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time