Why are you putting this on the SDK, when it's the hardware that is the pain sometimes? A developer made this comment.
Yea sorry, you're never going to get a third party optimizing 100% to a console for multiplatform releases. Even the most powerful machines don't get fully optimized, you think they're going to do it for the less powerful machines ? Look at Switch ports.
Are we just pretending optimization isnt a part of development now or what?
It's a interesting discussion. Would Warner Bros decided to cancel the PS4 and Xbox One version without the Series S existing? We will never know, but fact of the matter is Microsoft can produce more Series S consoles than X, because the chip is smaller. This has a impact on how many Xbox consoles are out there and on how big the current gen console install base is. So is Series S really holding back current gen or is the console (indirectly) the reason publishers will faster move on from last gen compared to a generation with just Series X and PS5?
it absolutely won't. thermal and power constraints prevent that
There are literally developers in this thread who said it was fairly straightforward and the tools did handle it
But most PC gamers behave like they all have 3090 in their rigs LMAO.
I can't even put into words how crazy and how far removed from reality this comment is.
The interesting part of the question is that the Series S does actually support ray tracing, it supports everything the X does. What no one has explored yet (at least publicly) is just how different the performance is. But also as of right now all anyone has done with ray tracing on consoles has been strictly supplementary, and still with notable performance costs. It remains to be seen if there's a game to be made on the PS5/Series X that truly is 100% dependent on ray tracing, and on top of that something the Series S would have complications in running it.
Metro Exodus: Enhanced Edition is precisely the type of fully RT dependent game you're talking about here and it runs surprisingly well on the Series S… while also hitting resolution lows as low as 512p in some spots.
Huh, well then I thought that was a setting still. I'll have to check that out.
Metro uses RT only on next gen for its GI and everything, theres no optional toggle or last gen version to play with the previous baked GI and all that.
At 864p normally, 512p in the Taiga area, per the DF video, yeah. Metro Exodus is also a last gen title with a coat of RTGI. Still impressive but not the best example for the future.
We've also seen multiple developers patching modes in later on. Which suggest they're willing to do it and just needed more time. Either to get better at using the Series S hardware or to be able to focus more on it, once the Xbox One, Xbox One X, PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5, Series X and PC versions were delivered. Don't forget devs have a lot of devices to cover, so moving past cross gen will already help with optimization.
I think that's fine, especially if paired with something like FSR 2.0. When games start going full RT, Series S will probably be 30FPS mainly, which is perfectly fine IMO. It's the budget console, you can't expect to do 60 forever.
the graphics and framerate improvements are still there regardless of what panel you play on. It's less appreciable, but still there.
For me it is. ;-)
