I think demon souls does an excellent job. They are doing some crazy fluid simulations already on the fog and smoke in the game. If GOW is next gen only too yeah its gonna be a monster too.If the next god of war is next gen only I expect that to be the first true show case of next gen.
That's what I mean, if we aren't noticing graphical differences without DF side-by-side and 5-6 frame-rate differences, I would say Sony kinda wins the tech bet deciding to improve the SSD to a higher level and we get some cool game design out of it. I'm very interested in it tbh. If you play something on X and then on PS5 and clearly feel "this is running better, feels better on X" then I would say MS won it.I think it's a guarantee that the Series X will have better performance in third party games as it's more powerful. How much might be negligible.
There could be some weird things in the beginning but it really would defy logic. It would be like when DX12 was going to close the gap between Xbox One and PS4. People said that too, but at the end of day it did very little.
And yeah developer talent and budget obviously are more important to what a game looks like, but that's not really relevant in this conversation. As far as pro units, you better believe it. I would bet they are being planned now. The only question is if Sony and Microsoft are going to release one or two at the same time.
Third party games will look better on Xbox. Anyone who's hoping for anything else will have a reality check. Differences will be small, though
Yeah, I really wanna see why Sony turned left here with the tech. Because they are both very similar specced machined otherwise.IO is so you don't buckle when you throw the kitchen sink at your game even with optimization dense or heavily active games are a one way ticket to no fps at any resolution past 540p. Sony is hoping devs asking for that grunt start making use of it.
Dmc5se actually seems the other way around since RT is coming to xbox later than ps5 which has it at launch, iirc?
That's what I mean, if we aren't noticing graphical differences without DF side-by-side and 5-6 frame-rate differences, I would say Sony kinda wins the tech bet deciding to improve the SSD to a higher level and we get some cool game design out of it. I'm very interested in it tbh. If you play something on X and then on PS5 and clearly feel "this is running better, feels better on X" then I would say MS won it.
Third party games will look better on Xbox. Anyone who's hoping for anything else will have a reality check. Differences will be small, though
We simply don't know. But one developer supposedly struggling with ps5 does not mean anything just like the dmc5se thing on xbox does not mean muchYou're right, what's the reason for that then? Tools not ready?
Man when it turned out that Cboat was a throwaway account for mods.... Hoo Boy.arthur gies was the one selling the "secret sauce" that he couldn't tell us about but believe him it's coming! Many "industry" people lost credibility during that time.
anyone else Remember Cboat? Or was it Cbaot? No one wanted to believe his leaks and when they came true, oh the meltdowns. Message boards will never be that entertaining again. What a time that was.
yo Demon's souls look almost too good...Like I'm almost expecting an UC4/TLOU2 situation where it doesn't look like that. But I think it does!I think demon souls does an excellent job. They are doing some crazy fluid simulations already on the fog and smoke in the game. If GOW is next gen only too yeah its gonna be a monster too.
lol nobody is drinking the cool-aid (well I am a Pony/Nintendolite) here, there clearly have a tech advantage in IO/SSD, MS has just about everything else. One of them spent more time in an area than the other, could both just end up having benefits but I'm assuming one will end up being more smartly designed than the other.
yeah lol but re watch that boss fight lord the way the smoke comes in and out is insane. lolyo Demon's souls look almost too good...Like I'm almost expecting an UC4/TLOU2 situation where it doesn't look like that. But I think it does!
yeah lol but re watch that boss fight lord the way the smoke comes in and out is insane. lol
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This is literally my reaction, I'm like "this is fake!" What is this?
DeS and the Monkey game to me blew me away visually. I couldn't believe that thread saying next-gen isn't impressive lol.
lol nobody is drinking the cool-aid (well I am a Pony/Nintendolite) here, there clearly have a tech advantage in IO/SSD, MS has just about everything else. One of them spent more time in an area than the other, could both just end up having benefits but I'm assuming one will end up being more smartly designed than the other.
true...well correction, I'm not drinking the Sony marketing cool-aide, but I am drinking the Cerny smooth talk! lol...Just wanting to see why Sony designed how they designed, maybe it is just to speed up development so PS5 is maxed out sooner.It's only in IO/SSD
MS is leveraging their IO benefits in virtual ram concepts, which I think will be foreign to most devs for a little while longer. Devs have great options either way if they choose to use either.
true...well correction, I'm not drinking the Sony marketing cool-aide, but I am drinking the Cerny smooth talk! lol...Just wanting to see why Sony designed how they designed, maybe it is just to speed up development so PS5 is maxed out sooner.
no worries man...this conversation is a blessing after all the warring going on around here. You picking up a console at launch?Really sorry if I felt you meant that, I don't.
I feel sony did a bangup job. One of the best both it and how power works from a kernel standpoint are something I hope ms standardizes in the windows kernel in some fashion in the next decade. There's no kool-aid in that SSD IO, just a shame SSD as can't be leveraged as full time ramdisks.
But what we've SEEN, of RE8 running on the PS5 makes Dusk's comments very, very believable.I watched it. He makes the point that the development environment on PS5 is similiar to the one of the PS4, which devs love.
Which also makes Dusks comments about RE8 very, very not believable.
Said it before, but maybe it's just bad project management.The RE8 PS5 woes are a bit baffling given that DMC looks to run really well on PS5 on the same engine, especially since Richard is confirming that the dev environment is essentially the same as on PS4. I'm not sure what could be the cause, but from the trailer footage you can clearly see framerate issues. Not sure what's causing them because the game doesn't look anywhere near as good as other PS5 titles.
I missed that reveal! What happened there?!Man when it turned out that Cboat was a throwaway account for mods.... Hoo Boy.
I caught bits and pieces but CBoat was a account used by mods to post MS leaks. At least that was my understanding. If anyone wants to fully explain the situation correctly, be my guest!
I believe that was revealed during/after the exodus, that some of the old mods revealed that cboat was an account they used to disseminate information they got privately from trusted leakers.
You mean it will look better for series X owners . I suspect series S to be the most popular Xbox though which most people who play on console should have a better experience on PS5 if you compare it to Xbox as a whole.Third party games will look better on Xbox. Anyone who's hoping for anything else will have a reality check. Differences will be small, though
You know it's funny if you think about the evolution of leaks, insiders then and now.I believe that was revealed during/after the exodus, that some of the old mods revealed that cboat was an account they used to disseminate information they got privately from trusted leakers.
Yep. When I noticed I was : "wait, they make his eyes smoke and put fluid animation on that detail, wow, just wow".yeah lol but re watch that boss fight lord the way the smoke comes in and out is insane. lol
What, how.
You mean it will look better for series X owners . I suspect series S to be the most popular Xbox though which most people who play on console should have a better experience on PS5 if you compare it to Xbox as a whole.
ND is going to do some insane shit. and even if you pay attention to the boss and look at their eyes and the fog emitting. the level of detail is insane, then the animation of his body a lot of secondary animations.Yep. When I noticed I was : "wait, they make his eyes smoke and put fluid animation on that detail, wow, just wow".
Of course it is just the start. We are looking at a launch native 4K / 60 FPS. And no disrespect, this is already madness. And we haven't seen the RT version yet.
But when you think of that power at dynamic resolution and 30 FPS, like the next ND will probably be (and GoW is NG only)...
It's my opinion but Demon's shits on everything else graphically and performance wise from what he have seen so far... so I am pretty sure I believe in devs gushing over PS5.
no worries man...this conversation is a blessing after all the warring going on around here. You picking up a console at launch?
And let's not forget YouTube compression...What, how.
My brain cannot process this, DS looks like playable CG to me, I cannot actually imagine better IQ. I rewatched the gameplay like 20 times in 4k and I am still mind boggled. I am against 70 Euro games but Bluepoint deserves it, fuck it.
I was hoping that gamersyde would release uncompressed 4k footage of it, alas nothing so far
I haven't said anything. I just seconded that i saw the framerate stutters.and I don't see the issue. It's a game in active development that started out as a different project.
I don't doubt Dusk has Capcom sources, but he IS talking about a game in active dev. Also it just doesn't gel with what we've heard from others who have multiple connections in the industry.
Aurther Gies circa 2015 othersite.
Man, remember when he was SURE that Microsoft was selling Xbox to Amazon.
Or wait.. Was that famousmortimer?
Third party games will look better on Xbox. Anyone who's hoping for anything else will have a reality check. Differences will be small, though
If onlyWhat, how.
My brain cannot process this, DS looks like playable CG to me, I cannot actually imagine better IQ. I rewatched the gameplay like 20 times in 4k and I am still mind boggled. I am against 70 Euro games but Bluepoint deserves it, fuck it.
I am against 70 Euro games but Bluepoint deserves it, fuck it.
Once again, I am so impressed by the attention to detail.ND is going to do some insane shit. and even if you pay attention to the boss and look at their eyes and the fog emitting. the level of detail is insane, then the animation of his body a lot of secondary animations.
That's what I mean, if we aren't noticing graphical differences without DF side-by-side and 5-6 frame-rate differences, I would say Sony kinda wins the tech bet deciding to improve the SSD to a higher level and we get some cool game design out of it. I'm very interested in it tbh. If you play something on X and then on PS5 and clearly feel "this is running better, feels better on X" then I would say MS won it.
MS have said that games will be designed for Series X and scaled down to other platforms.
Third party games will look better on Xbox. Anyone who's hoping for anything else will have a reality check. Differences will be small, though
That's quite the leap you're taking.This sounds like PS5 will be the lead developing platform even for games where the PC+XB versions are likely to outsell the PS5 version of a game... because: just port that PS5 to PC and use the performance headroom of the XBX over the PS5 to make it run as well as on PS5 without tweaking it to the metal.