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DF (Richard): Every single developer I have talked to about developing on PS5, has been evangelizing how easy it is to work for
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Yup, it does make building out Xbox and PC quicker (but regardless of what publishers think, there is extra work needed). Having to worry about specifics of PC is probably where the "it's not as easy" is coming from.
Aren´t the PS5 and Xbox 4 just PCs again? A foregone conclusion is a foregone conclusion.
And who are the idiots on YT who downvote the video?
And who are the idiots on YT who downvote the video?
Same rumours from the same person that said it was going to be 600 dollars among other things like making stuff up to "balance" things out.
That person has no credibility and not worth listening to.
Yep and 60FPS *most likely* being mainstream on console will be nice. I was always in a pickle because I liked how well Destiny 2 played on PC, but I loved the 4k, HDR support on my Xbox One X. Being able to play 4k/60 on PS5 is going to be amazing. ESO will probably get a cool 4k/60 mode, and a ton of new and backwards compatible games will too. Imagine how fast Destiny 2 will load and how snappy the menu's will be.
To be fair, after almost 20 years in the business they have had one legitimate success and even that success was as good as their rivals worst performer.
It hasn't exactly been a highly successful venture.
and it's apparently running just fine on a machine that has a less than half as powerful gpu.
Some of the stuff Dusk has been wrong about is frustrating, but they absolutely have credibility. They were 100% on point with RE8 and its subject matter, a bunch of the details with RE3 and Resistance before they were revealed, and also were correct about the Shenmue anime. Their word shouldn't be treated as gospel and I'm also not too keen on this report about RE8 struggling on PS5, but Dusk IS worth listening to at least and their history proves they have cred.
This is a reductive take; maybe the foregone knowledge of XSS's lower specs means it's easier for Capcom to scale down RE8 much lower (much lower internal resolution, much lower res assets, maybe 30FPS instead of 60FPS) whereas trying to get RE8 steady on PS5 without compromise at native 4k, with 4k assets, and at 60FPS is a taller order.
lol, yeah ...... I don't trust Dusk at all. Has openly lied.
They were also right about all the monster hunter info as well. They certainly has some capcom infinite.
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes"
Rumors should be taken as such, rumors. Dusk has been correct on a lot of things, so I'm more inclined to believe when he relays stuff he's heard.
And like you said, they could be trying to really just push the RE Engine for Native 4k/60fps/high-res assets or whatever and are having issues trying to deliver what they were intending. Could also be some weird technical problems they're just having with Sony's machine.
the GSDK is a strict upgrade over all the WinRT nonsense, i don't think i've met a programmer who disagrees
Your speculation sounds plausible. Thank you this thoughtful reply.
Yeah Sony's far removed the PS3 disastrous programming language and tools.
It does look rough, especially when the werewolf is growling.
Yep, DF is going to be real busy come November.
All RE games perform really well on Pro consoles. DMCV is an absolute treat too. Well let's just hope Capcom manages to fix whatever issues they've got, if the rumours are indeed true.
It does, afaik.
Both trailers have performance issues, that makes the rumours somewhat credible.
Doesn't Minecraft run at 1080p with RT on Series X?
Software Engineering (at least as I know it from college) is a complex matter. This is an academic field all on its own.
There is nothing weird about two development teams having different experiences. They can be equally talented or "one more talented than the other" and even then the "more talented team" could have problems the other does not. No two software development projects occur the same even if the same team is writing the exact same game / software again.
On that note, a (relatively) small part could be easy but the other parts could very well not be. There are so many components at play here and each has dedicated people / teams etc.
TLDR, Software development is a complex thing and a few game developers giving ambiguous statements as "development on this console is easy" isn't enough info to deduce another's talent or question the validity of another.
Alright mate. Ignoring the first part of your hyperbole.
Streaming is their (ms) next big push, 3rd parties have a well positioned platform with Xbox. Suggesting it's anything but a mild inconvenience is a bit of a stretch, which is what your implying by potentially abandoning Xbox versions. Having to understand GDK is not something that's constant, and will eventually be a non-issue after spending some time with it.
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I'm not particularly down on Dusk, I dont disagree that if there are issues it's with trying to hit parity with series X, but I doubt Capcom would s that worried about it hitting sub-native resolution. Heck, DMC V runs at 1080p60 with ray tracing on PS5.
to get 60FPS that's gonna be the same across platforms. It's that taxing for raytracing. XSX might render slightly higher. But that's the penalty of ray tracing
Totally speculative? But aren't you assuming the xsx version of dmc will run higher than 1080p 60 with raytracing with no evidence other than total speculation?
Where is this tweet by Dusk where he says PS5 will cost $600???
All I found was a tweet where he says it costs $600 to produce and gave a guess for the price (predicting a $499 price)
Am I missing something here? Why is he getting attacked for saying a dev is having trouble with a system?
Suddenly he's an unreliable source?
All I found was a tweet where he says it costs $600 to produce and gave a guess for the price (predicting a $499 price)
Am I missing something here? Why is he getting attacked for saying a dev is having trouble with a system?
Suddenly he's an unreliable source?
You mean like this one?
Ehh...this is basically like saying that Burger King should pack it up, since they're clearly not as successful as McDonald's, or telling companies that aren't Samsung or Apple to stay out of the smartphone business. Clearly, they're successful enough that they can feasibly keep going for at least one or two more generations beyond the Series S|X (though probably for as long as consoles are still successful).
He is the only insider I know that correctly leaks information about Resident Evil and other horror games so I disagree
Also, where did he say PS5 is going to cost $600?
LMAO I was wondering if that post was supposed to be a copypasta/inside joke from the old place! Good to see someone else thinking the same thing
Good and interesting interview. First time I actually hear about the GSDK. It sounds like it is coming in hot (same as Direct Storage) and is likely closely tied up with why we haven't seen Xbox Series X games running so far.
"I did not hear 60000 yen specifically was the cost of production, I said the price range in Japan would be 60000-70000 yen from what I heard."
He was dead wrong on everything wrt pricing.
I had no idea about the GSDK. Seems like it will ultimately bring about some great benefits for both Xbox and PC, but it has some maturing to do.
Cost of production could be that high. We don't know for certain how much it is or how much Sony is losing per unit.
Cost of production could be that high. We don't know for certain how much it is or how much Sony is losing per unit.
Aurther Gies circa 2015 othersite.
Man, remember when he was SURE that Microsoft was selling Xbox to Amazon.
Or wait.. Was that famousmortimer?
arthur gies was the one selling the "secret sauce" that he couldn't tell us about but believe him it's coming! Many "industry" people lost credibility during that time.
anyone else Remember Cboat? Or was it Cbaot? No one wanted to believe his leaks and when they came true, oh the meltdowns. Message boards will never be that entertaining again. What a time that was.
I believe Matt has said before that he expects this, to a degree. It makes sense, I've heard that trying to get assets and game design to play well with HDD speeds is a complete ball-ache for the developers.
He is getting attacked because he used one example of a game that he has heard is having difficulties on the PS5 and extrapolated that into a PS5 issue in general and that we should be seeing a much larger difference on XSX vs PS5 multiplat games...This doesn't line up with reality, no matter how bad of shape RE8 is in on PS5.
The RE8 PS5 woes are a bit baffling given that DMC looks to run really well on PS5 on the same engine, especially since Richard is confirming that the dev environment is essentially the same as on PS4. I'm not sure what could be the cause, but from the trailer footage you can clearly see framerate issues. Not sure what's causing them because the game doesn't look anywhere near as good as other PS5 titles.
Yeah point more to issues with their project than any thing with the hardware. It def happens.
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I can't believe anything that Dusk Gollen says about Playstation.
he always lies nowadays.
The RE8 thing is a crime, what he said became news everywhere literally going against all the comments we have from actual developers who used the ps5 saying how great it is.
he always lies nowadays.
The RE8 thing is a crime, what he said became news everywhere literally going against all the comments we have from actual developers who used the ps5 saying how great it is.
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