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DF (Richard): Every single developer I have talked to about developing on PS5, has been evangelizing how easy it is to work for
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He does, not sure if it was word for word. It's context was to compliment Sony on their dev kit. Not to imply any problems with the X or to fuel Sony console warroirs
Probably also facilitates that growth in the xcloud market/version too?
I got a gut feeling that their tools are very hard coded to skew to conventional PC gamedev paradigms. In that their engine has a lot of expectations about how memory is managed, how gpu/cpus ramp up & down and throttle etc etc that they optimise for because "its always been that way". Their output for previous consoles and PC end up being beneficiaries of that, and next gen Xboxes will as well because they will effectively just be PCs that continue the paradigms.
Meanwhile PS5 is really easy to work with but changes enough of the existing paradigms that the assumptions their engine is built around actually end up being a hinderance and will probably need a lot of low level changes to get used to. Covid / WFM probably mess with their ability to iterate and get those things sorted.
/complete speculation
you should probably clarify that you are speculating because what your saying does not line up with facts
What a dogshit thread title, personally the move to GDK is positive. They'll figure it out and it'll probably benefit both the Xbox and the PC.
OP should be banned from making threads. It doesn't take a genius to know he tried something here and got caught.
These past two pages are a fucking shit show, between people going at again with the RE8 rumor as it if was something, people saying that Rich must have a hard time saying that...
Fucking hell, what a hell these two months will be. It's disgusting.
Fucking hell, what a hell these two months will be. It's disgusting.
If you know how to make a PS4 game you know how to make a PS5 game. - New to this gen thing.
If you've been using the old Xbox Tools up till today you will need to learn the newer tools. - Normal every gen thing
Some devs have already been on the newer tools so it doesn't matter there.
Wait, did you go through the proper channels to post a positive ps5 thread? Also this has been reported a few times before, as well.
Definitely not the old thread title. This wasn't was Richard had said and mods thankfully already changed the thread title.
Sounds like it pertains to GDK by a large margin. A new more generalized development kit to use for development and optimization across S, X and PC as opposed to PS5 Devkit that only has a singular locked spec.
Furthermore, I recall that Sony got out ahead of MS with their (alpha ver.) devkits which allowed more developers to get accustomed to it ahead of inevitable follow up revisions courtesy of dev feedback and Sony's internal mandate with SDK.
Furthermore, I recall that Sony got out ahead of MS with their (alpha ver.) devkits which allowed more developers to get accustomed to it ahead of inevitable follow up revisions courtesy of dev feedback and Sony's internal mandate with SDK.
No. It's a regular, modern PC cpu (the exact same cpu that the ps5 has!) and I believe the graphics code is dx12 -- which is harder than many other graphics apis (if you're familiar with vulkan, its a similar kind of thing) but is already widely used.
Any additional issues like bad sdk design may make development slower or games worse, but its not at all comparable to using an exotic architecture that requires software unlike other platforms.
Makes sense for an AAA game which isn't finished and in development right now as we speak.
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Thread is clearly framed for console warring by OP.
If you read the quotes, or watched the video segments, Richard explains that Microsoft changed their development kit to a generalised one for PC, XboxOne , Xbox Series called the "GDK", from what they were using before the "XDK".
None of it is verified though. It could also be an issue with the engine. Who knows...
with Cerny at the helm again I highly doubt they made another PS3. What's believable is the tools being half baked given the circumstances.
It's a multivariate issue. Every developer is going to be different. We only know of the ones Richard to spoke. In terms of online hot takes, we want black and white, true or false. World is rarely that.
oh, no idea about that, maybe it runs poorly on everything else too. it definitely looked rough in the footage 😩
That's what I thought, too.
I wonder if we'll notice the difference in games ported from the PS5 to PC (versus MS games that've been developed for both Xbox and PC).
Is that how people ever develop games on PC? The reason the Xbox is harder to develop for this time is because the XDK is brand new, and is designed for PC/Xbox both. This will actually be positive for developers in the long run, as they won't really need to "port" for PC at all.
If true then how come capcom.......joke
It's the same every generation, one machine is always more difficult to develop for. Doesn't mean you'll get a worse experience, just the devs need to put a bit more effort in to get the best out of that machine.
It's the same every generation, one machine is always more difficult to develop for. Doesn't mean you'll get a worse experience, just the devs need to put a bit more effort in to get the best out of that machine.
I don't know what it means. But in german we have a saying. "abwarten und Tee trinken", which should translate to something like "calm down and drink tea". Maybe that's what he meant?
This is regarding the development environment. PS4 -> PS5 sounds like the same dev kit. Whereas Xbox has transitioned from the XDK to the GDK, which is a new environment for building to Xbox One, Xbox Series, and PC.
Yes lets take every rumor as facts....
Even if they have trouble it may have nothing to do with the ps5 architecture.
You're using this information to make it seem like the S is in another generation.
EDIT- Also that something being different automatically means the worst. The difference is the PS5 is closer to whast devs have using for the last 8 or so years with PS4 and the Xbox updated theirs to include PC. You'd expect there to be a difference in the learning curve.
Isn't that the guy that said a new silent hill is real? Ppl still believe what he says?
Interesting approach, diving straight into a thread reading only the title and making multiple widely incorrect assumptions.
Yeah I mean Sony's messaging has been weird to say the least but I had no reason to doubt Cerny.
I wonder what changes were made to allow for this.
Both machines are x86, so I'm assuming the even quicker time to triangle is made possible by better software tools available for developers?
That makes sense then. I'm currently at work so I went by the title. I imagine the development will even out within a year at least so thats good.
This for me is what needs to stand the test of time. Will we be able to see the full power of the XSX with games being developed like this! What will be the min spec for which games are designed? Or MSFT has figured out a way for the games to be developed for XSX first then scaled easily to min spec?
i think a lot of his general claims are pretty sus, but he also leaked all of the details of 8's settings and plot months before it was shown, and the new switch monhun weeks early, so he probably knows what he's talking about re: capcom
(whether or not he knows how to interpret bits of info he finds about development is another thing though)
Yeah also the guy who completely nailed the games and titles of the Monster Hunter games that were just announced. And a bunch of other things.
Silent Hill not being a game announced so far doesn't mean there isn't some Silent Hill game that was or still is in development.
Nothing he said is that particularly worrying or headline grabbing. There are just some sword bearing warriors who took it as a slight towards their honor. He literally said in the same tweet that he expects them to iron it out before release.
Dusk Golem is very reliable in everything Capcom related, he has been proving it from a long time. Other things, I dunno, but Capcom, he surely is.
Both machines should make life easy on devs. I doubt this will lead to major differences between systems.
I'm expecting games to look great on both with a res advantage on XSX.
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