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DF Retro: Virtua Racing Switch vs Every Console Port vs Model 1 Arcade!
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Co-sign. John has a brilliant talent for drawing you into his passions with a combination of articulate intelligence and genuine, positive enthusiasm.
The only thing I think's absent from the video is any mention of SEGA Classics Collection, which packaged several PS2 3D AGES releases, including Flat Out, into a NA/EU release. That's how I've played V.R. in the past, but it's awesome that (color grading aside) we have a great, arcade-perfect version from M2 that's portable.
John, you could've mentioned Saturn emulation as an option for high-res graphics, too, not only the PS2 version. I know it's not your favorite option to play the game but in high-res it looks quite nice, I think.
One of the things I took from the video is how fast tech evolved in the 90's. HavinG Virtua Racing and Daytona USA in a difference of one year is absolutely crazy, even more that developers did use the hardware in such a way is incredible to me. Of course Model 2 hardware was way better than Model 1 but you also have to be able to use the hardware you are given.
One of the things I took from the video is how fast tech evolved in the 90's. HavinG Virtua Racing and Daytona USA in a difference of one year is absolutely crazy, even more that developers did use the hardware in such a way is incredible to me. Of course Model 2 hardware was way better than Model 1 but you also have to be able to use the hardware you are given.
I hope the Switch version gets the color issues fixed. Looking fantastic otherwise.
The 32X port was so great back in the day.
The 32X port was so great back in the day.
Great video as always.
Hoping this comes to the US soon. I love playing the 32X version every now and then. Had it since around release, I think. Probably my favorite game for it.
I also have the Saturn version, but didn't play it all that much until a few months ago when I started giving it more of a chance. Made it pretty far into the Grand Prix mode, I think.
Been a long time since I last played the arcade version.
I've thought about eventually getting the Genesis and PlayStation 2 versions. Maybe someday. I'll definitely get the Switch version.
Hoping this comes to the US soon. I love playing the 32X version every now and then. Had it since around release, I think. Probably my favorite game for it.
I also have the Saturn version, but didn't play it all that much until a few months ago when I started giving it more of a chance. Made it pretty far into the Grand Prix mode, I think.
Been a long time since I last played the arcade version.
I've thought about eventually getting the Genesis and PlayStation 2 versions. Maybe someday. I'll definitely get the Switch version.
Unlike Outrun i have no nostalgia for Virtua Racing but i've to say its new look is soo clean, it looks a well done modern take on low poly 3D graphics.
Considering the local splitscreen and online multiplayer options, this is a must have for anyone who wants an affordable good racing game on the Switch.
Considering the local splitscreen and online multiplayer options, this is a must have for anyone who wants an affordable good racing game on the Switch.
It's not, but you can use the official Nintendo Racing Wheel for Mario Kart 8.
Is it compatible?
Virtua Racing has Motion Steering. Sega Ages Out Run too.
I think it's a bug in coloring. The red car especially is only that pink hue by default. If you change your car color and then go back to red, it's the correct color.
Not sure if they will patch anything. I don't kid the colors as it looks more modern to me with how bright it is.
That would be great. I also want Daytona released. I have it on 360, but switch would be great.
I want all of degas model 1 and 2 games released.
This one of the best videos that were posted this year on DF. Congratulations! Now I want to create a JP account and buy the game on the eShop.
By the way, talking about racing games, would you gave any possibility Dark1x to interview Sh'inen in the foreseeing future? I remember your Fast RMX video and in hindsight, it still is one of the best looking games on the console imo. It would be interesting to hear what those guys have to say about the hardware, but also about their approach to game design.
By the way, talking about racing games, would you gave any possibility Dark1x to interview Sh'inen in the foreseeing future? I remember your Fast RMX video and in hindsight, it still is one of the best looking games on the console imo. It would be interesting to hear what those guys have to say about the hardware, but also about their approach to game design.
I played this for about 2 years on my Amiga. Creating massive pile ups before watching the replay over and over was about all i did at one point in the early 90's.....
It's been a long time since I looked at F1GP, but I seem to recall most tracks having very sparse low-poly decoration - I don't think there's anything that has detail comparable to the bridges, for instance. It's really hard to be sure, though, I'd be quite interested to see comparisons of poly counts of the tracks - and whether F1GP did any view-distance culling like arcade VR did. And now I'm trying to recall just what a pitstop looked like in F1GP!
Looks like gamma is raised quite a bit on Switch. Intentional? Maybe to allow for better outdoor portable play?
It reminds me of "super-bright" mode on my Samsung. When I'm out in the sun, the phone will drastically up the gamma curve
It reminds me of "super-bright" mode on my Samsung. When I'm out in the sun, the phone will drastically up the gamma curve
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Oh man, one of my favorite games as a kid. I still have my 32X copy and my Genesis/32X.
Hearing the remade 32X music kicked me right in the nostalgia.
Hearing the remade 32X music kicked me right in the nostalgia.
Virtua Racing on the GBA (Cancelled prototype) would probably have been pretty close to what you could've expected from a 486 PC at the time...
It's actually fairly close to the arcade version (and better looking/running than the 32X version!), despite being unfinished!
Another fantastic episode, as always. DF Retro continues to be easily my favorite show online.
This version of Virtua Racing is beyond tremendous. Such a bummer that it is a Nintendo Switch exclusive though, I DESPERATELY wanted to see this game with the 3D maxed on Nintendo 3DS.
This version of Virtua Racing is beyond tremendous. Such a bummer that it is a Nintendo Switch exclusive though, I DESPERATELY wanted to see this game with the 3D maxed on Nintendo 3DS.
Tried playing some online games of this and the input lag there is terrible (over 1 second) i don't have a bad connection either - but i guess there are no dedicated servers and its probably p2p (and i am on the other side of the world to Japan), so might make sense :p
Watched this episode and immediately went to North American eShop knowing nothing about the release date of this and hoping to buy it.
Sorely disappointed.
I forgot the password to my Japanese account, too. T_T
Can't wait for North American release. Unless I can switch my account region and use my coins to buy the Japanese version...? Not that I was intending to get it via my coins solely, just wondering if that's an option. XD
Looks really, really good.
Sorely disappointed.
I forgot the password to my Japanese account, too. T_T
Can't wait for North American release. Unless I can switch my account region and use my coins to buy the Japanese version...? Not that I was intending to get it via my coins solely, just wondering if that's an option. XD
Looks really, really good.
Yes, these very washed out colors almost kills the original experience for me, please M2 patch it! I know you can!
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Disagree. Not about John's analysis which is as sublime as ever, but to me the game still looks fantastic. Sega did an amazing job transferring their siganture aesthetic to 3D with Virtua Racing. I still think it holds up to this day. Oh and it plays beautifully too.
I don't own a Switch but this game alone makes me seriously consider buying one
Yeah, I also got paired with Japanese players.
Wanna play a few races online?
I agree with what you say, it's more a personal thing, I played a lot of Similer racers in the snes/N64 days, I don't want to return back to that time.
It's just me.
Looks amazing, shame there's no easy way to buy on the Japanese eshop without paying through the nose for credit.
I'd get Cuphead on there too, as it's a few quid cheaper than UK.
I'd get Cuphead on there too, as it's a few quid cheaper than UK.
I don't think so. Washing out the colors removes some contrast which can make it more difficult to see in direct sunlight.
Yeah, I figured this was like how the GBA games that ran with these color pallettes that made it easier to see in the sun. But given this is a backlight display, I'm probably way off here.
I'd bet on VF1 but given VR doesn't include any assets from later versions I wouldn't expect anything outside the Model 1 original. So no alternate cameras (32X), Remix textures (STV/Saturn) or extra moves/characters (PS2).
Dark1x
After seeing that, all I could do was think of a spiritual sequel to this type of racer with a flat shaded motif, but ray tracing via global source illumination.
One can dream.
Man, this video was amazing. Thanks for that! What really got me was the comparison to the PS2 uprezzed emulation.
After seeing that, all I could do was think of a spiritual sequel to this type of racer with a flat shaded motif, but ray tracing via global source illumination.
One can dream.
How hard is it to buy stuff from the Japanese eShop? I'm *trying* to hold out til the western release buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..........................
Edit: I mean in terms of payment methods. I already created a Japanese account to download demos.
Edit: I mean in terms of payment methods. I already created a Japanese account to download demos.
I remember a similar game on GBA with 3D flat colored polygons. Can't remember the name though.
You're not trying to throw shade at Sega Ages Outrun there, are you?
You are right!!
To be fair, GBA had a fair share of good racers, beside this. V-Rally, Stunt Man, a couple of mode 7 based racing games with real cars, even a Sega Rally port, even though not the best port (beside the glorious Saturn port, Sega Rally doesn't have a happy story on consoles)
As far as I know it's another "great, arcade-perfect version from M2 that's portable." :-)
I don't know how you got that idea. OutRun on Switch is damn gud, as is Virtua Racing. M2's done great work with SEGA racers overall, especially OutRun given the new music by Namiki and chibi-tech.
Patch those colors and I will by this game with a quickness. Looks a bit washed out compared to the others.
On one hand, I would love to start playing VR this weekend. On the other hand...
Wearing my business-side hat, this practice could hurt Sega's business for their territory offices. More specifically, sales that would have normally been recognized as SOA / SOE sales will be accrued as Japan sales.
If the practice becomes mainstream and western region sales suffer as a result, that could lead to Sega skipping release entirely for certain games and/or platform (in this case the Switch version), or worse, scaling back their operations in those 'underperforming' markets. That would be terrible.
Of course, none of this would have been an issue if the game sim-shipped across all territories.
Perhaps it's a logistical issue (if they're doing cartridge), additional localization/culturalization work needed for the Western markets, or Nintendo certification that's adding to the delay. I wouldn't know.
As for me, I'm going to be patient and wait for the eventual U.S. release.
Okay I want to buy this from the Japanese eshop but it's been a royal pain in the ass trying to get it to accept my payment. Can anyone help a dude out?! I literally just want a 10.00 eshop credit to purchase the game. Tried Play-Asia but of course they are sold out.