The better lighting looks good and higher resolution textures. But for the rest its not that impressive, the game already looked good. And the dynamic resolution is expected if you see what they added, its a lot.
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DF: Gears 5 Upgrades For Xbox Series X Tested - Enhanced Graphics, 120Hz, Lower Latency + More!
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I'm guessing that since it's still not using velocity architecture, it's still considered to be part of the BC program. Sounds to me like you can still play it off of an external drive (which you can't with native XSX / XSS games)
It is PCs ultra settings + turning the particle slide to 150% (something that can be done on PC) + SSGI (not on PC) + new textures for cone step mapping (not on PC) + Screen-Space contact shadows (not on PC).
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It's a native version making use of the SX hardware as a native remaster would.
But the platform makes it seamless like an X/Pro patch.
This Gears video might be a week old or more. We don't know.
I imagine they've got some videos made and are waiting for embargoes to lift to post them.
The sheer amount of work the DF guys will be getting through right now must be crazy. The effort is extremely appreciated.
The Last of Us Part II: Remastered available Summer 2021 for $69.99
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The reality of having a game which can achieve a locked 4K at a locked framerate is that it's not utilising most of the power of the console most of the time. There are always going to be frames that cost more than others, moments that cost more than others, areas of the game that cost more than others. To 'lock' 4K requires that you have masses of room to spare which generally mean you aren't pushing your graphics as hard as they could be. Dynamic resolution is a really good way of handling this that is rarely perceptible.
It's an XSX patch making it a native Series X game. It's a Remaster (for free!) patch in effect.
Well that's probably really going to happen, just for a lower price.
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Very nice upgrade from the X1X version.
They also talked about contact shadows. Did it make it in?
Oh yes that too, almost forgot. Let me add that to the post.
I've been wondering this as well. So if I have some games that I've copied to an external SSD in preparations for the Series X, when I use them on the Series X will they update (again?) and move to the internal storage? Or will it prompt me that it isn't compatible? I guess we will need to wait to see unless this has already been addressed.
The difference between One X and the PC version at max on the same TV was very apparent to me, and the Series X version is even better than max PC version so I think the upgrade will be very appreciated.
They could have hit locked 4k, but they would have had to dial back some settings. You're going to be disappointed in lots of games and consoles this coming generation if you expect locked 4k everywhere.
Can't wait to hear you guys talk about your VRR experiences generally. I've had G-Sync forever now and I'm so glad this type of tech is coming to consoles.
Microsoft made it clear that if you care about resolution, Series S is not for you. Series S is about having all the exact same graphical effects as Series X but topping out at 1440p (Yakuza developers not withstanding). Since in this game the Series X drops its resolution down pretty far as needed, it makes sense that the Series S will drop its resolution down pretty far as needed.
They could have easily hit that if they had left the game as it was. Instead they are running it at higher quality than Ultra on PC. I personally think that's a whole lot better than reaching every pixel of 4k every frame.
DF made no such assumptions, as John stated that the fixes to the bug causing long frames as well as a potential fix to the camera cuts issue (post-processing detail you mentioned related to how the game was created on Xbox One) would be followed up on at a later date. And the framerate discussion covers both the cutscene stutter and the gameplay (traversal) stutter.
Nevermind, I get your meaning now. That's still related to DF saying they'd double back to see if changes had indeed been implemented.
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I think native 4k is just extremely demanding. I remember certain sections just dropping my 1080 Ti's framerate below 30 fps
But one thing: The game is still capped at 60 fps even when native 4K is achieved? As an owner of a VRR TV I would prefer games to go as far as possible here.
Dictator, fantastic look at the game! Thanks for all the high quality output you guys are putting out right now.
I'm curious if you can run this game off of an external drive still, or does it force you to put it on the internal SSD?
Seeing a console game with a perfect locked 120fps in the multiplayer mode with a focus on latency reduction is really a sight to behold.
We've come a long way from the 360 generation where 20-30fps with constant tearing and between 100-150ms of input latency (often played on TVs with over 100ms input lag) was the norm.
Feels almost like a return to the core of console gaming where fast, responsive 60fps games were the norm.
We've come a long way from the 360 generation where 20-30fps with constant tearing and between 100-150ms of input latency (often played on TVs with over 100ms input lag) was the norm.
Feels almost like a return to the core of console gaming where fast, responsive 60fps games were the norm.
Awesome. I'm excited to play this yet again.
I hope we will get a look at Forza Horizon 4 and Ori 2 from DF before launch as well.
I hope we will get a look at Forza Horizon 4 and Ori 2 from DF before launch as well.
Ah in some "concerned" threads where XSX hits locked 4K we're told "it's a waste of resources".
In other threads like this we get the "concerns" when the XSX using a dynamic resolution that it "can't hit 4k".
I'm amazed so many people can cope with the anxiety of gaming with all these concerns.
Looks like the Coalition has done a bang up job with Gears 5. I'm only a short way into the game and have been hanging back for this update. Surprised and delighted they've even got GI in there, wasn't expecting that.
And a great job from DF. Thanks guys.
In other threads like this we get the "concerns" when the XSX using a dynamic resolution that it "can't hit 4k".
I'm amazed so many people can cope with the anxiety of gaming with all these concerns.
Looks like the Coalition has done a bang up job with Gears 5. I'm only a short way into the game and have been hanging back for this update. Surprised and delighted they've even got GI in there, wasn't expecting that.
And a great job from DF. Thanks guys.
An unlocked FR option for games this gen for VRR TVs would be great.
Your Xbox One games will run day one on Xbox Series X|S without any need of patch, updates or anything thanks to Backwards Compatibility. Games which the developers released updates to take advantage of XBS X|S increased power will be treated as a next-gen title/native XB Series game and therefore will need to be installed on the internal SSD or the expansion storage. Xbox Smart Delivery will take care(On titles/games that support Smart Delivery) of which version is the best to your machine. Regarding if Xbox OS will automatically move your game from a external SSD/HD to the internal storage/expansion storage if it's a game that takes advantage of Series X|S, that i don't know.
A locked 60fps with perfectly consistant frametimes is preferable to a variable 60-90fps, VRR or no VRR. Consistency is king.
These next few weeks are going to be annoying with the constant "why is this 4K? What a waste" and " Ugh I'm so disappointed it doesn't hit 4K all the time" post.
I'm so hyped to play this. For all us PS4 people who didn't own an XB1 this game is essentially our big AAA launch title. Too bad I'm stickler for playing a series in order so I'm going to have to marathon Gears 4 first.
Yeah. I suspect by people not even buying an XSX. But so nice of them to be concerned on our behalf. :)
If you post to this forum...you are almost certainly not the target market for a Series S. It's not targeted towards enthusiasts. It's targeted towards the millions of people who are more concerned about price than resolution, the same way that cell phones like the Samsung Galaxy A-series vastly outsell the mainline Galaxy S-series or iPhone X's (I know it's not a perfect comparison given how phones are more necessary for everyone, but it applies to virtually all consumer electronics in some way - the budget tier always sells well). If playing stuff above 1080 is important to you, probably don't get it. That doesn't mean there's not a pretty significant market for it - they're just not active here.
He mentioned very quickly he was limited to 1080p for 120 mode. Think he didn't have the proper hardware to do the test or something
As far i know, any patched game will be treated as native and therefore will need to be run on the SSD. It's a interesting question tough. Hopefully Dictator can clean up this question.
I think they're saying they don't take advantage of Xbox Velocity as:
- The game is a last-gen game at it's core design
- Don't take advantage of Sampler Feedback/Sampler Feedback Streaming
Great video. The way John explains things is just very nice.
Anyway dynamic resolution + locked 60fps with VRR is the future for this gens campaigns I hope. With 120fps multiplayer and a 120fps option for campaign (if time/resources allow). That would be idea to me. This game looks amazing.
Anyway dynamic resolution + locked 60fps with VRR is the future for this gens campaigns I hope. With 120fps multiplayer and a 120fps option for campaign (if time/resources allow). That would be idea to me. This game looks amazing.
Yes idd. because of HDMI or something. Would be interesting to see how it exactly achieves that framerate.
Probably a lot of my reaction comes down to Youtube compression, and the fact that Gears 5 on One X just looks... insane (for a One X game).
