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DF Direct: Cyberpunk 2077 - New Gameplay Reaction + Graphics Analysis - Is This Next-Gen?
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Think you see it in the vid already. There is some busy places for sure. I mean not packed but alot of NPC"s.
More details is believable but more NPC and density no way...
BTW I'm not asking Cyberpunk to match the pedestrian and density of Spiderman. Just thought the city would be more lively that's all.
It is.
PD: I remove the video, because it seems that the guy it's a piece of shit.
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It says "Captured on PC" at the bottom of the video at the start of the video on the Xbox YouTube channel.
Hopefully they unveil the current/next gen versions soon because for Cyberpunk being a cross-gen game and only running at 1080p on a 2080ti that's kinda worrisome. I guess it'll be checkerboard on all consoles?
Dios Mio 0_o the footage they are showing looks even more impressive. I was just saying I didn't think anything would top TLOU2 but that part where you and Jackie are being arrested by the cops. The whole environment looks so bonkers and the character models are so detailed on everything its just unreal.
i think that was because the streaming limitations. i hvant see nothing in this trailer that would drop rtx 2080ti to 1080p.
So the bad frame rate and pop in was the streaming? It's a super dense game though
Visuals are all over the place. Sometimes it looks great, other times it looks almost unacceptable for 2020. That popin in open world driving sections looked atrocious. Popin will be what differentiates current gen games from next gen games. None of PS5 games shown had popin like this, in fact, when watching Sony's presentation I forgot that popin was even a thing. But here I am watching Cyberpunk and popin is back with vengeance. Yuck. They really need to address this.
Pretty sure it's with raytracing turned on plus high/max settings. Current gen will just run at medium/some high and of course no raytracing.
The Gran Turismo demo had all sorts of pop-in during the in car gameplay. Pop-in isn't going away for now.
Added the video in the OP to my watch list to catch it on telly in glorious 4K after work. Cant wait.
Yeh, it's pretty stark. This is a legacy from PS4/XB1 weak hardware.
Exactly, there's no way in hell I'm getting this for current gen. It's either PC or PS5 for me.
I'm more interested in the freedom of interactions and what you can physically DO in the game.
Graphics are nice, but I want that Witcher 3/GTA 5 immersion - I want NPCs to remember my decisions from the earlier choices in the game. I want to be able to intuitively interact in the world and see how deep I can go, even if I choose to do things that have nothing to do with the main storyline.
EDIT: and after watching the video, it looks amazing as-is. The misty/smoke effects in the Afterlife bar are top notch.
Graphics are nice, but I want that Witcher 3/GTA 5 immersion - I want NPCs to remember my decisions from the earlier choices in the game. I want to be able to intuitively interact in the world and see how deep I can go, even if I choose to do things that have nothing to do with the main storyline.
EDIT: and after watching the video, it looks amazing as-is. The misty/smoke effects in the Afterlife bar are top notch.
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Yeah. As soon as I saw the pop-in in the desert area, it just felt like a pretty current gen game that will have lots of extra bells and whistles on PC, but might not take advantage of better asset streaming in ways that next-gen only games would.
They plan on ray tracing everything too. Might need a couple of 2080tis to run that at 60fps.
From Geoff: "I didn't get to play on mouse and keyboard, so I'm curious how it plays on mouse and keyboard"
I think a number of people had it streamed and could only play with controller.
I'm whelmed. It's certainly a good looking game, but I wouldn't put it in the top tier of current-gen, let alone say it looks next-gen.
I really dislike the way lighting interacts with faces at times - it produces a ghoulish, flat, rim lighting-esque look that looks primitive. Especially disappointing given this is happening while RTX is apparently active. Shadows are distractingly noisy, too.
I really dislike the way lighting interacts with faces at times - it produces a ghoulish, flat, rim lighting-esque look that looks primitive. Especially disappointing given this is happening while RTX is apparently active. Shadows are distractingly noisy, too.
They really need to fix the pop-in before release. It was impossible not to notice lights and planets popping in at a very short distance in the Badlands scenes. I don't want to see what the PS4 version will look like if this was on PC. Hopefully they can pull off some optimization miracles before release.
Well GT7 stood out in the presentation for that. I thought that was pretty darn disappointing. Horizon and R&C had amazing LoD and shadow draw distance though, so hopefully that is fully representative of what will be delivered in gameplay.
Best looking video game I've seen so far. It's so incredibly polished and it's almost unbelievable that it's open world.
I have to say I'm surprised everyone's so enamored by the visuals... I appreciate how ambitious the game is, there's lots of "stuff" and detail there, and some nice techy things like seeing inside buildings etc, but it by and large comes from giving their team time to work. There were also plenty of things which looked flat and plain in an almost Fallout 4-ish way however. Technically it's a decisive thumbs up, but as for sheer visuals I've been more impressed by RDR2 or TLOU2 for instance.
Let's also wait for the final product... Last time CDPR showed a game the end result was pretty far from what they demoed, and I think we're already seeing clear signs the same is happening here. Especially if even this demo ran on a RTX 2080ti - which is something else altogether from the GTX 660 equivalent PS4.
Let's also wait for the final product... Last time CDPR showed a game the end result was pretty far from what they demoed, and I think we're already seeing clear signs the same is happening here. Especially if even this demo ran on a RTX 2080ti - which is something else altogether from the GTX 660 equivalent PS4.
Detail is definitely inconsistent, as it would be expected from an Open World game still in development, but most of the stuff is quite breathtaking. Really makes me glad they decided to go with 1st person pov for maximum immersion.
In some ways this will look better than most next-gen games for the first couple of years at least, despite the technical limitation of being born for an older gen, all the hand-made art stuff is not something you can balance by implementing the UE 5 alone.
In some ways this will look better than most next-gen games for the first couple of years at least, despite the technical limitation of being born for an older gen, all the hand-made art stuff is not something you can balance by implementing the UE 5 alone.
That was also the case with Witcher 2 at the end of last gen to be honest. Sure, stuff like Killzone Shadowfall and Ryse for sure were more impressive, but it wasn't until say Infamous Second Son when an open world type game (Witcher 2 wasn't open world, but had expansive environments) pipped it. Cyberpunk will definitely hold up.
I think it looks great. Really impressed by the consistency of assets and how well dressed the environments seem to be. That's the big win to me. People seem to think open world games are just so much more demanding than linear titles and that's not necessarily the case from a performance standpoint but it definitely is from an art standpoint. Add to the fact that it's first person and yeah, I'm impressed.
Over 160 millions of consoles sold this gen. CDPR are targeting Rockstar style launch numbers. Wouldn't happen with only next gen release
I'm hoping the Pro/One X versions hold up at the very least. I'll be getting a PS5 or a Series X (or both) at some stage, but not by November I guess. Hoping for decent graphics and performance on the boosted consoles.
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Might because of night and districts. Hands on impressions said that it was busy like that 2018 demo. Not as busy but like 90% off it.
I need that npc density and ray tracing so let me know.
NPC density will hopefully improve between versions.
NPC density will hopefully improve between versions.
Yep, this, pop in, and lack of decent skin shaders/detail are the obvious "not next gen" elements to me. Characters still look like plastic mannequin dolls.
I still think it looks incredibly impressive for a cross gen game though, assuming it actually runs at 30fps on current gen and this won't be a 20+fps mess. Long hair looks especially impressive by current gen standards (but again, certainly not next gen).
