It's not a performance thing. There's no performance hit from Auto HDR.
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DF: Control Ultimate Edition - the next-gen experience compared on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
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I agree its tiny, but the PS5 SSD has the biggest gap in speed in the specs, so the fact the Series is performing better in any way really is something.
It's a matter of their engine, it's just not implemented in it. It didn't had HDR on any platform.
They said this:
I had i3 4ª gen + gtx 1060 and was unable to hold 45fps on 720p
only now, with ryzen5 3600 + new RAM + SSD my performance is stable 1080p 60fps (without Raytracing of course)
I think that was one of the biggest shockers. Confirms that the SSD in the Series X is not a generation behind like a lot of people thought.
Tried it for the first time last night on PS5. 60fps is definitely the way to go imo. I don't think I've noticed such a huge different between 30/60 in a game before but I've never been one to be picky about it.
My main issue right now though is the crushed blacks. Because of the art style everything is just too black imo for it to be enjoyable so I'll wait a bit for the fix. Does the contrasty lighting in the game mostly stay consistent or will this be less of an issue later in the game? Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later.
My main issue right now though is the crushed blacks. Because of the art style everything is just too black imo for it to be enjoyable so I'll wait a bit for the fix. Does the contrasty lighting in the game mostly stay consistent or will this be less of an issue later in the game? Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later.
If the updated version isn't on Game Pass, then the clear winner is the one I can get free on PS+.
I think it's already been stated many times, that 3rd parties will not really take advantage of the advanced Sony SSD. Spiderman loads a giant Open World Map in 3 seconds, while this game takes 11 seconds to load a smaller set piece.
Thats only for last gen xbox one as far as I know. Last gen version of control support auto hdr. There is not such thing as no performance hit, there is 12 TF of performance available for last gen games, more than the original hw they were running on, even if you reserve some for auto hdr, games would still run better. Tetris effect for example, if you turn off hdr in game, auto hdr kicks in. It actually operates as a xbox one game. Smart delivery + optimized for xbox series makes the message muddy. Because a game says optimized for xbsx it doesn't meant its a native xbsx game.
Great video as usual. Besides the Series X having those random frame drops when text pops up or walking in certain parts. It held up the best in areas where there was a lot of particle effects and what not. Barely dropped below 58 fps on performance mode. Now if only they could iron out those other issues. I'm actually going to play this again when I get the time. PS5 also did a good job.
I like when games use haptics for the footsteps. I can get people feeling like its a bit much but I love it. Same with the triggers.
Straight from Microsoft:
"Auto HDR is enabled by the console's hardware, there is absolutely no performance cost to the CPU, GPU or memory".
They've said it's only disabled when the auto HDR team or the devs themselves find that the Auto HDR implementation isn't visually pleasing/accurate/etc..
I'm sure eventually we're going to see better load times once the real next gen games come out. But I don't think there is anything extra in terms of meaningful performance gain to see from the PS5 SSD compared to the Series X. I'm pretty sure the Series X would load the Spiderman open world game in roughly the same time if it were available on the platform.
We've already seen in games like Fifa, NBA where games load in under 3 seconds on both machines. MK 11 loading times are comparable. But let's wait and see.
The people that thought the difference was going to be huge with the SSD's were fools. Both were always going to be great.
The msg indicate its baked into the system level, dev has all the resources promised to them so whether they use it or not it take away any performance, infact it turn on automatically on xbo games, zero work required on dev site on legacy titles.
I think we're in agreement here then that there's no performance hit from Auto HDR.
Controls seemed laggy for me, but changing a sensitivity setting just for a notch solved it.
Hope they at least try to fix crushed blacks, it is really impossible to see anything on some places. Otherwise it is fine on bright areas. Don't think turning off HDR in PS5 settings would solve that...
Hope they at least try to fix crushed blacks, it is really impossible to see anything on some places. Otherwise it is fine on bright areas. Don't think turning off HDR in PS5 settings would solve that...
Looks like another wash on both platforms, these differences are getting hilariously minute (which is a good thing). I'll wait a couple weeks for some patches, and play whichever has their tiny quirks ironed out first.
At what settings? I can play it on an i5/GTX970 at low settings at 1080p and 60fps with stutters. I guess your i3 just crippled everything.
I don't think the settings/performance for the XSS is impressive at all. Well, to me at least. Not with this game.
But it wouldn't surprise me if this was the version they spent the least time optimizing. Considering it's always said that time and budget was limited for the next gen port.
Performance is reserved, there is a cost. Really depends on how you look at it. For closed box consoles, you add a feature you loose something else somewhere.
Yay! Was always interested in this game but the PS4 performance tanked my first attempt haha. And I'm not a performance oriented person, usually. Have this sitting on Series S, excited to finally dig in on an unplayed Remedy game!
Same. Astro had the best implementation so far imo, but this is pretty good too!
yeah played through this on ps4pro and it was rough. you kind of adapt after some time.
but now after seeing it in 60fps, performance mode is definitely the way to experience this for me.
Outside of the Stuttering on Series X transitioning to/from cutscenes, when running round with nothing really going on, or when text appears on the screen, or some crushed blacks on PS5, yes, they are very similar. Remedy is supposed to be looking at both.
A few of us have been experiencing crashing on Series X at the same time stutters can occur.
Jason Ronald - Xbox Head of Hardware - said that he was expecting the majority of games to load faster on the S than on both the X and the PS5 and he was right.
Presumably the same as the PS5 ones shared in his video yesterday? I think they're identical aren't they?
Until and unless PS5 crashes on me, that's where I plan to play.
I feel like if that was different it would have been mentioned in the video.
Considering there are no differences between PS5 and Series X, settings should be the same provided by Remedy in Alex's video.
Surprised the Series consoles load faster . Xbox SXversion looks like it needs to be fixed for a good experience .
In practice I've only found the stuttering when exiting menus. Having played both versions I find the black crush on the PS5 to be way worse of an issue. Hopefully they both get patched shortly.
I wonder if the file sizes is something unique or it´s going to be widespread.
Technically speaking, and not considerating the DualSense and PS+ factors, feels like this is the only debatable advantage in this case.
With both PS5 and Series X having such a limited storage if this becomes a trend that would be a huge advantage for Sony.
Technically speaking, and not considerating the DualSense and PS+ factors, feels like this is the only debatable advantage in this case.
With both PS5 and Series X having such a limited storage if this becomes a trend that would be a huge advantage for Sony.
My bet, given the file sizes, is that PS5 is spending more time decompressing the files than the Series consoles are.
That the file sizes are markedly different? Yeah. I have it on both Series X and PS5, and the PS5 version is much smaller.
Speaking as someone with both, the differences are gonna have to be consistently massive for that to over-ride the fact that I have 1.8TBs of SSD in my Series X and can back up any next gen games on my external 6TB HDD over my PS5 which has 600GB and there's nothing else I can do about it. Space is an issue on one of these consoles for me and not the other. And a 50% reduction in game size is massively welcome, but doesn't massively help that issue.
I don't know if I'd go as far as to call it a huge advantage for Sony until they fix the storage issues.
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