Oof, that Poker chip boss, totally unacceptable, in the 20's in PS4 Pro? Hopefully that's patched
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DF: Bloodstained Is Brilliant - But What's Up With The Switch Port?
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and also you already played a bad unreal 4 game. Ark on the switch, they're not lenient ;p
Ever since it was unveiled that the game was 30FPS (pre-release), the complaints about the frame rate and performance have been incessant and greatly exaggerated. It could be 100% locked and I'm sure they'd still be rolling in because it's not 60FPS.
Can't think about any, although Gears 5 supposedly will. Also, I really think that the graphical gap between this game and Gears 4 (for instance) doesn't justify the 60 FPS alone.
I'll probably pick this up soon, between Xbox and PS4, whichever is cheaper.
Thanks for the laugh.
Thanks for the laugh.
UE4 is super strange to me.
It always seems to run like a dream on PC but is so highly variable on everything else.
Its becoming like Unity.
It always seems to run like a dream on PC but is so highly variable on everything else.
Its becoming like Unity.
My PS4 physical version with no patches gave me zero problems. Pretty sure everyone said it was the patch that messed things up, but I don't go online often, so it didn't matter.
To be fair, UE3 was kind of the same way on last gen systems but runs like a dream on current gen systems. UE4 has the advantage of not being superseded any time soon so it should shine on next gen systems.
Can the switch version record video? I'd love to record and post. It's been a nightmare each time I have to do it and I hold my breath hoping it doesn't crash.
Glad I skipped the Switch version, I was tempted to grab that for a moment but I got cold feet when the first reports came in. Portability isn't worth that dire mess. The PC version is buttery smooth, so I'm happy with making that choice.
The general consumer without much technical knownledge holds many 'basic' beliefs that will lead to greater expectations than what a system is actually capable of. Not taking the engine being used or pretty much anything behind the scene into account.
I did read here that this is an 'indie' title which shouldn't be HW demanding because it's...indie? Or even that this shouldn't be a demanding title because it's 'only 2.5D', no matter how little sense these takes make.
Nope, recording isn't available on this title, you'd need a capture device.
Yeah I've seen that sentiment all over the place and it's way off base.
Then there's something wrong with your Switch or the SD card you're using perhaps? That part is perfectly fine when the Switch is working properly.
Of course you don't want to believe anything.
Apparently Switch does not allow screenshots when the game crashes. LOL. That's just a small sampling of missing text and distorted backgrounds, I stopped taking screenshots at a certain point.
Nope. No issues with any other games. I'll record vis iPhone if I have to.
Well, what you're saying about single digit frame-rates is clearly not normal as I've proved in the video. If that's what you're getting then it's either a bug or a problem with your hardware. It's not the way it behaves on other Switch systems.
Go for it.
Again, though - when functioning normally, it's fine. If you're seeing problems it's a bug or HW issue. It's not the way it behaves on Switch normally. The area does not run at single digit frames per second under normal conditions. Period. A bug is very possible, though.
Well that sucks. I'll record via iPhone later then. I had slowdown both in docked and handheld mode and running the latest patch on a digital copy.
The issue with the screen caps during conversations is already well documented in John's video. I believe those can happen despite the fact that I haven't experienced it personally.
What I hold against you are your hyperbole claims that the game is a 'broken mess' 'unplayable' and 'single digits' framerate and your very personal fight against physical media altogether.
Are you looking at other peoples reports?
From Reddit:
"the biggest fps drop so far for me was in that tower with the gears."
"Edit 2: game slows to half speed in the twin dragon tower. Because of the low framerate, i think it causes miriam to clip into the spinning gears you are supposed to platform on, spitting her out from the bottom and doing massive damage. The worst performance i have seen so far."
Check out this thread. I just searched "tower"
That's cool. I know people who spent several hundred on this and refuse to believe anything negative. I;'ve logged plenty of hours into this game and have had way too many crashes/freezes/missing text/items stuck in walls/slow-down etc.
So it's a bug. You saw my video. It runs perfectly fine on all three of my Switch systems.
Yep, either Pro or PC for me.
It's not an issue of ambitiousness, rather optimization and development time/budget etc.
Mighty No 9 also struggled on the base consoles and that is a much simpler game than this.
Only THREE crashes in 12 hours what a relief 😂
but seriously if they work quickly on that Switch version it will be fine, it sounds like the framerate is very stable at least, that input lag + reduced loading times +bug fixing and Bloodstained Switch is good to go.
Damn...I planned on getting the Switch version, but if it's not good I'll just have to rock with PS4 and maybe come back when the physical/patches are out to fix it.
What I'm saying is that you suggested that performance is a problem. I don't believe it is. The issue you're encountering is a bug which leads to poor performance. Very different even if it seems similar on the surface.
I'm sure you encountered it but your statement was incorrectly definitive.
UE4 is a heavy engine on non-PC platforms, regardless of what kind of game it's powering. It takes a lot of tinkering to get it to a rock solid baseline for performance, and even that isn't without some sacrifices along the way as we've seen across many titles. Even Fortnite, the engine's bread and butter, isn't particularly great on that front, even with its pared back details and dynamic resolution compared to the PC version.
The good news is that UE4 seems rather future-proof for now, so the next round of hardware should really make it shine and any potential Bloodstained sequel will certainly benefit from the additional power, even if it winds up as "merely" a prettier version of what we got here.
To be fair I didn't say 'only' haha! Yeah, It is unfortunate that the game can crash for starters. It shouldn't happen and I'm not excusing this. I made that point because the user I replied to claimed he had a crash every 30 minutes. :lol
FWIW, I haven't made it to the spiral tower yet on Switch, but I did experience the same type of slowdown (single digit-feeling frames, everything moving at half speed) on the opening galleon level in several rooms, including the very first one. At times, the game runs "fine", but at others it definitely doesn't.
I have a physical cart patched up to 1.01. Is it possible there's a difference between physical and digital performance?
Possibly. I tried hard to replicate this bug as I had heard of it but I was not able to. Trust me, if I could have caused it, I'd be happy but it always runs fine.
Here is a quick (crappy) video of me playing in handheld mode. The game freezes for 3 second midair. I'll get more video later of terrible frame rates if anyone actually cares.
Very well could be the shards you have equipped (and using?). I can't remember which one it is, but I simply can't use it at all because the game will freeze.
I'm playing digitally and having the same issues. I also (gasp) have a physical version unopened. I've logged almost 7 hours (way more if I didn't have multiple crashes). I'm not sure if viewing books on the shelves actually do anything in-game, but I stopped altogether as those were my most frequent crashes.
I played for more than that. I'm jealous that you were able to cause those issues. That's what makes this frustrating. It's clearly a bug then but not always easy to cause.
I've had similar screen freezes at two instances during my rising in the Twin Dragon Tower, however not THAT long, more like a second long.
That said, I never used that shard either, so perhaps it's linked to that.
I assume you're playing on version 1.1...and it happened to me on 0.1, so that bug apparently hasn't been ironed out yet it seems.
I can record more later. It's very frustrating as I loved all the GBA/DS games and like everyone else have been waiting for 4 years to play this. It's frustrating I'm essentially being told to stop playing while they "fix things" which could takes weeks or months.
That video took only 5 minutes to happen. I warped to the tower and went down. It's way to easy to recreate right there and I have to avoid that area unless I just saved in fear my game will crash.
I have the updated version. That's not a bad freeze either. I've had some that last 10 seconds and I just hold my breath. Typically if I we're to chat with someone right after I get graphical glitches and a crash. I just beat the two dragons and holy crap was it slow. Major input lag and slowdowns.
That's odd. I wonder why that happens so quickly for you? I cannot trigger it at all.
Every time it happened to me it never crashed, so I wouldn't worry about that.
The three crashes I experienced were related to conversations starting and library checking. One with Gebel, one to accept a side quest and the last one a library I checked.
I don't know. It happens both docked and undocked. I have a 400GB SD card. I could try writing the game to my internal memory and seeing if it happens? I play a ton of games on switch and have no issues with far more demanding titles.
I'm using internal memory but that shouldn't matter. When did you install it? There is something weird going on.
And cure cancer while you're at it!