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Devs react to PS5 specs - Twitter edition
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Only in loading. They literally couldn't. Or they'd leave out the majority of users. It would be pointless. Star Citizen seems the lone example of forging ahead because they defy all other expectations...so why not.
A community manager isn't a developer, dev means being employed on software creation or production.
The purpose of the tread is to read technical expertise or a view on software and creation, not just someone drooling on a spec list.
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Cerny explained that, the games are designed with the standard HDD in mind, vs the SSD where they still had the old way of thinking. The games on consoles can do away with the redundant assets on both consoles now overall, and the playstation could deliver at an even faster speed high fidelity assets from what im understanding this as when it comes to the SSD.
Star citizen devs did and you can see the travesty when trying to play it from a platter. It's unplayable.
Just like the complaints about Ps5 are hyperbolic so are the advantages claimed by PS5 people
The bottom line is that these machines represent a comparable and significant leap over their predecessors to the point where we wont really know where the actual ceiling is for both machines for quite some time
Expect games on both to impress with performance, speed, framerate and whatever else you currently care about
Have said it before, the main thing I'm more intrigued about is the 3D Audio but I'm afraid it's SONY first party that will utilize it at full potential, unfortunately, I have little to no interest. Maybe this feature will change my mind this time.
It just seems crazy to me that people are saying the XBOX is drastically more powerful than the PS5 when the raw number comparison put the XBOX at about 8%-20% better than the PS5 in most categories except SSD speed where the PS5 is around double the speed. Like, even if the XBOX was as much as 20% faster/more powerful than the PS5, that's not a huge difference (we're well past the point of diminishing returns on raw power) & with the SSD advantage and possibly more efficient architecture, the gap is likely to be even smaller and could even be in the PS5's favor.
My guess is that for multiplatform titles, you're going to get basically the same experience regardless of which of the two systems you play them on.
My guess is that for multiplatform titles, you're going to get basically the same experience regardless of which of the two systems you play them on.
Would have thought if it was completely game changing some dev would be utilising it already - loads of devs make VR only stuff and that's a way smaller audience than a SSD etc only game would have.
Not trying to downplay it. Guess we just have to wait for the games to blow us away with some crazy stuff!
They will now. I'm expecting games to start forcing you to upgrade your storage drive to play them.
Well, to be fair, xsx has the tech just half speed (ssd + hardware decompression). So itll get utilized ( at least if the game doesnt hit PC). And who knows, maybe the xsx speeds are enough to do 90% of what is done on ps5's solution.
The replies in this thread.......*smh*. I thought Era was above console wars. Can we all agree that both consoles will be amazing and move on?
Anyway this SSD sounds awesome. Completely game changing. Can't wait to see it in action........with that Demon's Souls remake!
Anyway this SSD sounds awesome. Completely game changing. Can't wait to see it in action........with that Demon's Souls remake!
Sigh... Lockhart have a SSD. When third party will stopped to do cross gen games (in 2 years), those consoles will all have SSD and it will be mandatory for gaming on PC.
That's not important.
The Decimal Engine will definitely do. The LOD will be something.
Are you allowed to say if you are happy with those? Are you happy with those?
Ha ha ha.
Sigh...
Probably. The only question is when?
I used this post to ask you : have you had time to ask a dev about the lack of LOD transition in Setsuna showcase? Because what SONY showed about SSD and the fact memory can be fully used instead of stacking reminds me of your comment about the LOD.
You can't call it bs when devs have said countless times that it is a gamechanger. Why is every good thing about PS5 have to be marketing talk and not something that genuinely impacts overall game development for the better?
Again, we'll see how this all plays out when games start rolling out
So you're telling me games made by Valve, EA, Ubi, THQ, Activision can't take advantage of this?
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I take issue with what you lot are saying. I created this thread to share and discuss dev reactions, not industry wide professionals. There's a reason I didn't include stuff from Digital Foundry for example.
All this Hostility is uncalled for. Still, disrespecting industry professionals is not what I had intended, if that is indeed what I've done, somehow.
So you think that although PS5 has almost double the speed for SSD, we will get the same experience?
Well, in that case, if you are developing for a specific type of gameplay. You know it's a smaller audience because it's newer tech. A whole different area to work in. If you are creating a general game, you want it in as many households as possible. That requires working with the lowest common denominator in HDDs. I don't know what the split is on PCs, but I imagine HDDs are still the bigger number, so it just wouldn't be smart. It would be impossible on console. That's why the new gen is so exciting. We finally get to go back to ...cart like loading times.
People can't die on their imaginary hills over a pointless battle if their preferred game machine isn't better than another preferred game machine though.
In reality the disparity between these two seems far less than what we currently have with the 4/One and Pro/Elite. Both are going to offer some amazing individual strengths for first party titles (as usual) and everything else is probably going to play great regardless.
Lots of PCs still don't have SSDs, but also the SSD speeds on both the XBOX & PS5 are drastically faster than your average PC SSD these days. Like for example, my PC's SSD has sequential read times of about 400MBs/sec and much slower read times on random access. The PS5's SSD is over 10 times faster than that.
I will say that playing Path of Exile on a SSD is a drastically different experience than a non-SSD. Not only are the load times much faster, but the game's a lot smoother as well.
It is indeed amazing. Wondering if 2.4-5GB/s is enough for something similar and if XSX has this multi-priority thing or just two channels like PC drives.
RT was barely mentioned though... smells like it's getting a short end of stick and 8-10TF is just not enough for most of the RT juice. RT heavy multiplatform titles might suffer on this machine. First party will do wonders that's a given though.
RT was barely mentioned though... smells like it's getting a short end of stick and 8-10TF is just not enough for most of the RT juice. RT heavy multiplatform titles might suffer on this machine. First party will do wonders that's a given though.
calm down.
read before you post.
this thread is about reactions from developers, not from community managers.
I'm not a game dev, but I am a dev, and I'm pretty happy with specs from both. I think they're similar enough that multiplatform games won't be horribly compromised on one or the other, which one does better will probably depend on the game. And their strengths should make for some interesting first party games.
I do wonder about the PS5's ray tracing performance. From the presentation it sounded like he was optimistic that it could do reflections, but based on his own chart that would put full path racing out of reach. I hope I misinterpreted that.
Either way, I'm sure games will look great, but I still think current games look great, so I'm easy to impress.
I do wonder about the PS5's ray tracing performance. From the presentation it sounded like he was optimistic that it could do reflections, but based on his own chart that would put full path racing out of reach. I hope I misinterpreted that.
Either way, I'm sure games will look great, but I still think current games look great, so I'm easy to impress.
No loading times are going to be great, I suppose for some games it can be marginally better on PS5 than XBX.
Better graphics are going to be great, I suppose for some games it can be marginally better on XBX than PS5.
I will get the PS5 for the exclusives. That is the gap that is huge here. Everything else to me seems so small a gap between the two that is irrelevant.
If I played older games, maybe the BC which is way better on XBX would make me pause, but I dont. But I can really see people that use it alot and care could base their decision around it. Hopefully Sony decides to add BC all the way down to PS1.
Better graphics are going to be great, I suppose for some games it can be marginally better on XBX than PS5.
I will get the PS5 for the exclusives. That is the gap that is huge here. Everything else to me seems so small a gap between the two that is irrelevant.
If I played older games, maybe the BC which is way better on XBX would make me pause, but I dont. But I can really see people that use it alot and care could base their decision around it. Hopefully Sony decides to add BC all the way down to PS1.
since both have SSDs that wouldnt really matter the PS5 will just load faster, however as someone pointed out this may affect multiplayer/cross play games because the PS5 would load faster than any other platform. so this definitely is something we will need to see play out.
We can't be rational here on ERA, didn't you know? People who are expecting a huge gap in visuals will be surprised once they realize it's even smaller than the Xbox One X to the Pro
I agree with this. the major difference will come from 1st parties but the differences between multi is probably negligible at best. its a great time to own either system.
By the time it launches there will be. Samsung already has one
Pretty much. Its all SSDs and 3D audio (which XSX has, but Sony talked about it more so it must be better)Teraflops?
I feel like I hear this every gen, then one game has more grass than another and all hell breaks loose. I think the entire reason Microsoft keeps going after so much raw power is due to how much shit they got over the gpu, ram, etc. Also these weird reaches about PS5 being more balanced or "efficient." We shouldn't encourage that. Some numbers are higher on one system vs another and thats ok.
Yeah, but to be honest it might be a bit early for third party devs to contribute much, nda's and not having access yet etc.
Agreed on all of this! Some of the warring (or even outright fretting) over this makes me a little sad. I'm really excited about all the hardware.
A lot of it especially from Sony developers. As this thread is literally based off of first party devs praising the consoles, it's rich since they are literally never going to have games on the Xbox so they won't need to worry about bashing them.
But sure the SSDs in both consoles are pretty wild, but realistically this was never a limitation in world size. LOD and having more detail streamed in? Yes do that.
PC's have this tech but it's not as close as we're not in the newer generation ssds that are supposed to be out this year. Right now an SSD pretty close to the speeds the XSX and PS5 get would be upwards of $399 (for 2TB).
Yup. The I/O data speeds on the PS5 are going to change how PS5 games operate at a fundamental level. It's not as sexy of a thing to tout as CPU or GPU speeds but I think this will have a more fundamental change on development than people realize.
You obviously will have a better experience on Series X, that's not even up for debate at this point.
