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Devolver's Next RPG "Loop Hero" Preview (IGN)
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Lol, they are getting very complex these days. I stopped playing NGU Idle for some time because it was consuming my life.
Love the aesthetic, but I can tell this ain't one for me. I'll keep an eye on it though, I'm still not entirely sure how it actually plays
Tbh, I'm not entirely sure I understand what it even is lol
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Basically, all the numbers and shit from complex RPG mechanics and none of the fun or interesting world or context. And then a number of the game's processes happen without you doing anything.
Some idle games are "clicker" sorts, where there's at least that as an active thing early on, but most seem to become fully automated eventually.
Either way, they're upsetting addictive and completely empty of purpose, so perfect for modern life. I have played far too many.
This looks pretty amazing so far and right up my alley. Also just watched an Easy Allies 20 minute playthrough vid which clears up a lot of what the moment to moment gameplay looks like:
I saw the Easy Update email and thought I had heard of the game before. That confirms my suspicions lol
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For those who only care about numbers and stats increasing and not the gameplay to achieve said things. It's basically the epitome of just playing for the sake of seeing numbers go up (like in your standard grind-only MMO) because some don't want to be bothered with running, jumping, pressing keys, etc.
Not my type of kind because I usually enjoy the gameplay many games have to offer and if I don't, I play something different.
OK, cool. I was hoping for something more like Ogre Battle 64
Watching that video, I'm not sure I'd classify this as an idle game? The only idle aspect is that you don't actively participate in fights. Seems more like a rogue-lite deckbuilder strategy game since you are generally doing something active with the game at all times. Doesn't really seem like a game you'd let sit in the background for 3 hours and then check in on it for a minute.
No problem! I'm just happy I didn't miss the video myself since now I can make sure the game is near the top of my wishlist for the year. Both Devolver & Raw Fury are putting out a lot of the most interesting indie projects these days
Idle games are tremendous. I don't usually stick with them for long, but I love the design and distillation. NGU Idle kept me busy for awhile most recently. I'm going to keep my eye on this game.
For those wondering what an idle game is, imagine all the progression in RPGs (and most modern games now) but strip away all the bells and whistles and interactive bits that don't involve raw numbers. Then instead of quests, mob grinding, crafting etc you just click a button to gain a tiny bit of xp. Now eventually you get enough xp to level up! You'll have choices similar to skill trees or stats, and some of these will usually lead to 'idle' xp, as in you no longer need to click the button. Now you're getting xp just from existing, but that button is still there and gives even more xp than you would just being idle. So you click it! Etc etc, this basically goes on forever and the numbers always get bigger.
It's modern gaming deconstructed into almost nothing and I fucking love it.
For those wondering what an idle game is, imagine all the progression in RPGs (and most modern games now) but strip away all the bells and whistles and interactive bits that don't involve raw numbers. Then instead of quests, mob grinding, crafting etc you just click a button to gain a tiny bit of xp. Now eventually you get enough xp to level up! You'll have choices similar to skill trees or stats, and some of these will usually lead to 'idle' xp, as in you no longer need to click the button. Now you're getting xp just from existing, but that button is still there and gives even more xp than you would just being idle. So you click it! Etc etc, this basically goes on forever and the numbers always get bigger.
It's modern gaming deconstructed into almost nothing and I fucking love it.
This is definitely not an idle game. I watched Easy Update last night and it seemed really cool.
No problem I hope you like it :) I'm not into the free ones really, but that is the best fully paid for one I've played. Have something like 750+ hours in it and counting :) Had a lot of great support after release also with patches and content.
If you want to check out the year old Alpha version, it's over on itch.io: https://fourquarters.itch.io/loopathero-demo
A demo came out on Steam a few days ago. Are there no other threads for this game? Couldn't find any with search and I'm a bit surprised, I thought there was a fair bit of indie buzz behind it and the game is real fun, good style, good music. Sold me on a preorder.
Yeah there is another thread. I posted in about the demo and release date, but no one cared lol
Ha! What a sailly game.
*Kids screaming for food*
HOW ABOUT SOME COOKIES!?
I'm still slightly baffled at that! It's shaping up to be the March's indie darling du jour. Maybe people will pick up on it when it's closer to release.
The rogue like thread had a lot of discussion - thats how I found out about it.
The Loop Hero demo is amazing, y'all. Play it and become a believer.
And for the record, "idle game" really isn't an appropriate genre for Loop Hero--there's nothing idle about it. It's a strategy roguelike, where you're basically crafting an adventuring map for your hero as you play. Every battle gives you a card or two, and every card can be put on the board for a new effect, with untold combinations and interactions between them. It's ingenious and fun as hell, and even with the demo's limitations I couldn't get enough of it.
If it doesn't make sense, just try the demo. You'll understand it in one loop, and then realise all the potential it holds.
And for the record, "idle game" really isn't an appropriate genre for Loop Hero--there's nothing idle about it. It's a strategy roguelike, where you're basically crafting an adventuring map for your hero as you play. Every battle gives you a card or two, and every card can be put on the board for a new effect, with untold combinations and interactions between them. It's ingenious and fun as hell, and even with the demo's limitations I couldn't get enough of it.
If it doesn't make sense, just try the demo. You'll understand it in one loop, and then realise all the potential it holds.
just coming up for breath after playing the demo for two whole ass hours. the game isn't really an idle game. it's much closer to a roguelike, and very very fun. excited to learn it's coming out in just a few weeks!
Yes the demo is incredible. I put 9 hours into it already. Also this game is not an idle game unless that term has changed from sit down and forget to actively being involved. You need to pay attention in Loop Hero or you will fail miserablely.
Yeah, I immediately noticed that at the top of this preview too! Good for him. Hopefully he gets to create some funny video content for them.
EDIT: oh, but apparently this thread is over a month old hahaha
Tried the demo, it's the first time I play a game like this so that's intriguing. But I just don't knlw of I'm playing well or not. I think I've tried 4 or 5 run so far and I just can't beat the 1st dungeon boss. Not sure what I should do other than keep repeating 1st dungeon until I can unlock more permanent bonus and that geinding aspect is what I don't like from roguelikes
I played a stupid amount of time on the demo after a friend told me to check it out and it's amazing but I worry that the loop will feel shallow or not ramp up fast enough once you get used to it. The interface would work great on touchscreen too, so I expect a mobile port eventually.
Can't wait for the reviews/in depth player impressions.
Can't wait for the reviews/in depth player impressions.
Make sure you build up your base. Build the things that let you level up, give starting equipment, and a farm. Also pay attention to how you are placing things. For example if you put down 9 rocks or mountains in a group together you get a harpies nest and a lot of HP plus resources. Theres a lot of hidden tiles that appear if you place things just right. The stronger the enemies you face the better rewards you can get.
When the first boss shows up he places structures of power that give him a power boost for each structure standing when you fight him. To prevent this either build around your camp so he cannot place anything around it or use the oblivion cards to remove the buildings he placed.
Yeah, for whatever reason the discussion has been taking place (and utterly hijacking) the general Roguelike thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/roguelike-embrace-the-dnmroa.37180/post-57860562
I had a lot of trouble until I realized setting down Lighthouse cards/tiles was messing me up something fierce; take it out of your deck. The reason is you don't want to complete loops as quickly as possible, you want the exact opposite. The lich levels up with each loop, so you want to put down as many rocks / mountains / meadows as possible in as few loops as you can; in turn this means you want to fight a lot of enemies (also because they give experience that when filled allows you to choose a perk). Tiles like the Spider Coccoon can help a lot in that regard, as well as some of the semi-secret combos (like Village + Vampire Mansion, next to each other). Ideally you should fight the lich around loop 6/7.
Set down rocks in a 3x3 pattern to create a Mountain Peak, then set mountains close to each other (use rocks for tiles that won't have many adjacent mountains, like map edges). Set meadows next to non-meadow tiles to make them bloom and provide 3 heal per sunrise instead of 2 (you can easily do this by setting treasuries in a Chess Knight pattern).
If you're close to summoning the lich (the bar that summons it is filled when placing down tiles and drained when deleting it), but are relatively close to the camp, hold your cards and don't put down any until you're past the camp. This will give you an extra loop of pulling and putting down mountains, etc.