• Light/Dark
  • Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Devil May Cry 5: The Digital Foundry Analysis + All Consoles Tested!

pswii60

pswii60

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,678
The Milky Way
Helacious said:
Why are you even spending time accusing people of not watching a video because you don't like the choice of words? I saw the video earlier before this thread and I recalled the resolution being rocksteady. I didn't remember word for word static. Jesus why I'm I even justifying myself for you.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
tenor.gif

Dictator said:
Wizards run their cutscenes at 30-50 fps confirmed.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I wish they'd locked them to 30fps. It's a bizarre design choice and I hate the judder. On the flip side at least they'll run at 60fps via BC on next gen consoles :)
chandoog said:
TL;DW

John goes into a lot of detail. Highly recommend a watch of the full thing. Just posting the relevant console comparison items here.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It's incredible just how much detail John goes in to. I'd love for him to compare input lag between versions in future too. And even the console fan noise which varies wildly from game to game on all platforms. But I suppose John has to have a life at some point!
 
SixelAlexiS

SixelAlexiS

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,734
Italy
No 1080p option so worse framerate on Pro then base PS4... this is so stupid Capcom... I guess I'll play it on PC like RE2, pfff...
 
chandoog

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,074
SixelAlexiS said:
No 1080p option so worse framerate on Pro then base PS4... this is so stupid Capcom... I guess I'll play it on PC like RE2, pfff...
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

That's not true at all. It was just the case for one sample segment. Overall (based on DF's commentary and earlier VGTech analysis) frame rates are Pro > XBX >= OG PS4 > >> OG XBO/S
 
headspawn

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,620
Capcom has done a fine job here, though I feel like people would've been more than fine without the reconstruction stuff.
 
Decarb

Decarb

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,643
Also remember that Advent Children is running at movie framerate. If DMCV ran at that fps it would blow AC out of water with visual fidelity.
 
only_fools_&_horses

only_fools_&_horses

Banned
Jan 17, 2019
964
chandoog said:
You are currently posting in the DF DMC V analysis topic ..
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Yes, i know.
And why people said in VG thread: "will wait for DF analysis" like somehow VG is subpar, not worthy and other reasons. My question ( and legit one ) in previous post is intended for them first and foremost to answer on simple question what is the difference in the end.
 
Last edited:
Cyborg

Cyborg

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,955
- Rather difficult to see difference between the two during game play.

Im impressed what Pro is doing here. Great job
 

Dark1x

Digital Foundry
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
3,530
only_fools_&_horses said:
Yes, i know.
And why people said in VG thread: "will wait for DF analysis"? My question ( and legit one ) in previous post is intended for them first and foremost to answer on simple question what is the difference in the end.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Anyone that says "will wait for -insert channel-" is being super rude, I'd say.
 

Deleted member 420

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,056
I'm still not entirely show how the Capcom color space works. I have my PC set to RGB & limited on my TV, do I pick sRGB or rec 709 before I calibrate the in game brightness?

Felt like for RE2, the game looks too dark on rec, but the blacks look a bit washed out on sRGB.
 
Blade Wolf

Blade Wolf

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,512
Taiwan
Awesome video, but you can tell they are new to DMC games judging from the gameplay.

Would really like to see how the performance looks like when pulling off some mad combos and there's shit all over the screen.

Also I'm really loving these 60fps console gaming experiences we are getting at 2019, Ace Combat 7, RE2, DMC5 etc.
60fps is where gaming is at, no matter which platform.
The Last of Us played so amazing in 60fps and it's kinda sad that all the Naughty Dog games we get this gen are 30fps instead.
 
Last edited:
bcatwilly

bcatwilly

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,483
The HDR alone based on my time even with the demo on the Xbox One X is practically worth the price of admission to see the crazy glow of weapon particle effects and such.
 
chandoog

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,074
Just an interesting point to note from the DF article's text:

Still, no matter which system you own, DMC5 presents as a soft, filmic looking game.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I was under the impression, via the VGTech topic from yesterday, that the PS4 Pro versions of RE games were .. what was it .. overly sharp to the point of being "difficult for the eyes" and have "utterly ruined image quality".

Ah well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
The Thnikkaman

The Thnikkaman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
210
Great analysis as per usual.

Dang I legit don't know what version I want, Pro or X. My PC could probably handle it really well but I don't have it hooked to my 4k HDR set (and lugging my tower downstairs to connect it up would be a pain...)

May go with the pro if only because DMC feels "right" on a playstation controller to me.
 
Last edited:
Ploid 6.0

Ploid 6.0

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,440
Just saw Sunhilegend's panther gif. This game is tempting me, why couldn't they save MTX for the SE edition. I still need to finish DMC so I have a lot of time. More beastmasters in games please!
 

Fafalada

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,068
Re:Flicker Dark1x - temporal AA (and reconstruction obviously) techniques jitter the camera every frame to generate additional samples.
If you were to display that without any resolve filter to process temporal data - the entire image flickers/shakes. Might be a case of resolve not picking up some things, or not having enough precision/source detail to work with, or could be a bug in resolve shader too.
 
Psychotron

Psychotron

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,683
chandoog said:
Just an interesting point to note from the DF article's text:



I was under the impression, via the VGTech topic from yesterday, that the PS4 Pro versions of RE games were .. what was it .. overly sharp to the point of being "difficult for the eyes" and have "utterly ruined image quality".

Ah well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

XS5LK.gif
 
lashey

lashey

Alt-Account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6
chandoog said:
Just an interesting point to note from the DF article's text:



I was under the impression, via the VGTech topic from yesterday, that the PS4 Pro versions of RE games were .. what was it .. overly sharp to the point of being "difficult for the eyes" and have "utterly ruined image quality".

Ah well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Holding a grudge? lol

I know who you are talking about.
 
RagdollRhino

RagdollRhino

Banned
Oct 10, 2018
950
X is definitely the way to go here other than that single boss fight. They even mentioned during normal gameplay Pro dropped a little more than X, along with the cleaner image X has. Still good across the board.
 
Yautja_Warrior

Yautja_Warrior

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,723
United Kingdom
Looks like Capcom did a great job with DMC5.

Looking forward to getting the Steelbook version tomorrow for my Pro, for some 1800p / 60fps greatness. I'll take the game being slightly smoother over having a slightly higher resolution.
 
Last edited:
jett

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,663
The FF7AC comparison is amusing.

I'm just here to remind people Advent Children is some upscaled-from-SD garbage.

1443_1_1080p.jpg




1443_9_1080p.jpg


1443_8_1080p.jpg



1443_16_1080p.jpg
 
jett

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,663
chandoog said:
Weren't the new scenes they made for AC: Complete created in higher resolution native for blu ray ?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Most of it is the same ol' garbage. For instance Cait Sith wasn't in the original shot I posted above. They re-rendered it... in SD.

The new scenes don't really look that much better, but they're aren't helped by low quality textures and low quality everything.

In general it's a trash-looking production. It does a disservice to DMCV to be compared to this dreck.
 
Last edited:
Mit-

Mit-

Member
Oct 26, 2017
519
Anyone have more info/recap info about PS4 Pro 1080p versus 4k?

1080p with native downsampling sounds damn sexy and smooth. Performance sounds the same between both, but I'm wondering if the downsampling results in a smoother, more pleasant picture if the aliasing isn't great on 4K.
 
Yautja_Warrior

Yautja_Warrior

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,723
United Kingdom
jett said:
Most of it is the same ol' garbage. For instance Cait Sith wasn't in the original shot I posted above. They re-rendered it... in SD.

The new scenes don't really look that much better, but they're aren't helped by low quality textures.

In general it's a trash-looking production. It does a disservice to DMCV to be compared to this dreck.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I wouldn't say it's a disservice to DMC, not when it shows off how good DMC looks.
 
Hey Please

Hey Please

Avenger
Oct 31, 2017
22,824
Not America
Great in-depth analysis (as always). Source file really brings out most from these analysis. In the greater scheme of things, playing the game on anything other than X1OG/S is the way to go.
 
burgerdog

burgerdog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,223
Mit- said:
Anyone have more info/recap info about PS4 Pro 1080p versus 4k?

1080p with native downsampling sounds damn sexy and smooth. Performance sounds the same between both, but I'm wondering if the downsampling results in a smoother, more pleasant picture if the aliasing isn't great on 4K.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

1800p is going to look better than 1080p no matter what I think.
 
Fastidioso

Fastidioso

Banned
Nov 3, 2017
3,101
RagdollRhino said:
X is definitely the way to go here other than that single boss fight. They even mentioned during normal gameplay Pro dropped a little more than X, along with the cleaner image X has. Still good across the board.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Jesus it's really that terrible if an face off the X didn't take all the prize? For the fuck sake. And no Pro version dropped a little more just in a particular scenario with the camera views close to the enemies characters with many alpha effects on the screen to be precise. In general is a bit smoother.
 
The Thnikkaman

The Thnikkaman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
210
Fastidioso said:
Jesus it's really that terrible if an face off the X didn't take all the prize? For the fuck sake. And no Pro version dropped a little more just in a particular scenario with the camera views close to the enemies characters with many alpha effects on the screen to be precise. In general is a bit smoother.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I mean if the X was rendering at the same res as the Pro I imagine it would probably lock 60 (excluding the cutscenes, probably). X is rendering at higher res and has additional AA (and it looked like the shadows were a little nicer?). Similar performance but with bumped up IQ on the X. Makes sense, it's not like it's an Ace Combat 7 situation, which IIRC the X version was flat out worse than the Pro.

I probably would have preferred them to keep 1800p like the pro and use the extra X power to lock 60 though personally.

I wonder what it's actually rendering at before they reconstruct up to 2160.
 
MatrixMan.exe

MatrixMan.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,500
I'm still not sure which platform to play this on, Xbox One X or Pro, even after playing through the demo countless times on both.

Thinking PS4 Pro may be the way to go as the controller doesn't hurt my hands as much after long periods of time doing craziness with my combos. Can see this being a life saver when it comes to playing Dante too.

Decisions to make. Tough ones.
 
The Thnikkaman

The Thnikkaman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
210
MatrixMan.exe said:
I'm still not sure which platform to play this on, Xbox One X or Pro, even after playing through the demo countless times on both.

Thinking PS4 Pro may be the way to go as the controller doesn't hurt my hands as much after long periods of time doing craziness with my combos. Can see this being a life saver when it comes to playing Dante too.

Decisions to make. Tough ones.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Same boat. For me it also may come down to preferring the DS4. I've heard if you have a Xbox Elite with the paddles it's great though.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.