Overall, I'm enjoying it but I really hate that they locked off the harder difficulties. Its starting to feel so monotonous fighting the same easy enemies over and over. I'm not going to play through this again, so I hate when devs do that.
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Mission 10 is for some reason problematic for S ranking it on DH. I think it's the difficulty and enemy placements that are actively hampering high scores as a lot of enemies die in 2 hits therefore it's tough to string together high continuous scoring (not just because of difficulty but because of the type of enemies that actually appear in the mission). None of the other missions have this much of a problem I find but for some reason this one is just doing my head in. I've tested with all sorts of setups too but it all boils down to the enemies being used primarily.
Always been hit and miss in the previous games and subsequent difficulties don't run in to this but for some reason this very specific mission does on this difficulty does. Fuck knows how you're meant to S rank Human mode.
Always been hit and miss in the previous games and subsequent difficulties don't run in to this but for some reason this very specific mission does on this difficulty does. Fuck knows how you're meant to S rank Human mode.
I actually really like the colors in this game, Dr.Faust attacks, and the redness.
Underworld can have colorful locations too, I was in Mission 13 farming red orbs and there was some beautiful lightning in that location, and an area that is very yellow.
Also first half in above ground is streets, stations, by the sea location, that graffiti place, hotel.
Game is not gray.
Rev the instant after swinging your sword during a combo to instantly fill one charge of your meter. The timing is tricky but once you get the hang of it you'll be flying through fights.
There's even an upgrade that instantly charges the entire meter after a perfectly-timed rev.
I just started it and he's handing me my ass constantly. I saw somebody doing buster when he is in his... umm...
devil trigger form bashing his and his doppelganger head against each other and cannot replicate it for the life of me
NVM, JUST DONE IT, FCK YEA! Now I can focus on beating his ass.
Do you mean charging the pistol and devil breaker? Both flash and make a sound when they are charged.
Others have already explained the exceed.
IT'S AMAZING I KNOW
Glad to see this still works
The Shadow even stalls a bit in "shock" that you did it just like on dmc1
Never realized how long that gets
As Dante it was a little more barebale, but as Nero I felt naked fighting him since I have far less to work with. I'll just have to keep practising and figure things out.
Yeah I managed to do that, was pretty cool. I didn't expect the fight to be so different on SOS, really took me by surprise.
Same here
Like some big time shit happened between Mission 10 and 12 and Jesus, it's remarkable that there's still a lot of game left
V may be divisive in how he feels to play, but everything I'm seeing from him makes me super excited for a summoner class in Dragons Dogma 2.
Just beat him, got one BIG helpful hint that basically made this a cakewalk.
use charged shot the moment he stops attacking, while it's easy enough to stagger him in his human form without this, he's just too aggresive during DT, the moment he stops his attack he's already starting another, during that brief period, 1-2 charged shots are enough to STAGGER him allowing you to get some combos in and get a breather, thanks to this I also was able to pull of doppleganger buster
The only problem I have with the game and it's a minor annoyance at best, but sometimes it just skips cutscenes for me. Twice in a row, I got new weapons for Dante without any context as to why. I have to restart the mission, to get the cutscenes to load properly.
Not a huge problem but still it's pretty annoying.
Not a huge problem but still it's pretty annoying.
Oh fuck. Just learned that Vergil Battle 2 is one of the themes that comes with the Deluxe Edition alternative tracks, that's so cool.
I haven't got my copy yet, can anyone tell me when it plays?
I haven't got my copy yet, can anyone tell me when it plays?
Couldn't beat mission 08's boss without using a continue. With a few more tries I think I could've done it but I wanted to progress the story anyway.
I really struggle making the combo go up with Nero. It's so easy with V, got two consecutives SSS without even really trying but it's way more difficult with Nero. The only way I can make it go up significantly is to grab it towards me, launch it, follows with sword slash, spam the pistol as it goes down then, follow with a down slash, devil break the shit out of it then regrab it and keep going. And that only works when the enemy isn't guarding or isn't a boss.
I really struggle making the combo go up with Nero. It's so easy with V, got two consecutives SSS without even really trying but it's way more difficult with Nero. The only way I can make it go up significantly is to grab it towards me, launch it, follows with sword slash, spam the pistol as it goes down then, follow with a down slash, devil break the shit out of it then regrab it and keep going. And that only works when the enemy isn't guarding or isn't a boss.
i think the use of colour is just not so great in this game, there are even red bosses with red attacks on red background...it just doesn´t really work. visual effects and cues in boss fights are often overloaded to the point where you are asking yourself what the fuck is going on as well.
Wrapped up the first playthrough, Mission 19 and 20 was basically exactly what I was hoping for. Game in general gets a hell of a lot better from mission ~10 or so on, the back half is a blast loaded with fanservice.
Some other initial thoughts:
Still not a fan of the Devil Breaker system, and I wish they had some way to just swap between arms. I don't want to manage an inventory of these and while having a surplus of arms is never an issue, the ones in the level are going to be random so you don't really know what's up ahead. In one of the last levels I had Buster currently equipped and saw a Rawhide I wanted to pick up, I had a Sweet Surrender as my next arm that I didn't want but the only way to swap that would have been to basically break two arms to pick that up, and I wanted Buster. Feels bad.
That said...there are a couple of arms that are really cool. Tomboy and Buster being my early favorites. I was super happy to see Buster and that it still has all of those special DMC4 cinematic attacks on enemies and bosses. Due to that Nero is at worst on par with DMC4, and just gets better with some of his new stuff. Big fan of the divekick-esque move specifically.
V is unsurprisingly controversial. I don't mind playing him but I can see why others would when he's so different, but I'm curious to see how he fares on SoS/DMD since he was not hard at all to rack up style and avoid damage. Seems like an easy front runner to bully bloody palace if nothing else.
Dante is absolutely insane. I don't even know what else to really say on that, he's by far the most advanced and mechanics filled character I've seen in any game like this and it isn't even close. It's almost comical how much new stuff you still keep getting with him as you get near the end of the game.
Balrog is the greatest weapon in all of DMC. Weapon is a fucking blast and feels amazing, basically having its own hype announcer to track hits helps.
Environmental variety is straight up terrible. This is easily the worst part of this game, you spend the entirety of it in bland streets or a bland samey looking tree. There's maybe 2-3 levels that visually stand out. While none of the levels are a slog to get through like other DMC games struggled with, it's a shame they blend so much. The feature to see the right path was often used for me just out of confusion at where I was, and I feel it may actually be a pain to track down the rest of the orbs as most of the spots aren't going to stand out in my memory at all.
Storytelling didn't work well for me at the start. I don't like the use of in media res here, makes the player feel too detached from the stakes and what actually happened to lead up to it, especially with V just being integrated from the start. Where they take his character is not surprising at all but the story meanders around for almost half of the game because of it.
Enemies are solid and the bosses seemed great. Probably THE thing to nail in a DMC game and I'm glad they did, there's nothing that pops up and makes you groan, which should make higher difficulties fun. Bloody Palace is going to be incredible.
Game has a killer soundtrack, and I love the gallery/jukebox section. Really chill menu to read everything.
LMAO at trish and lady. Holy shit what a waste.
Some other initial thoughts:
Still not a fan of the Devil Breaker system, and I wish they had some way to just swap between arms. I don't want to manage an inventory of these and while having a surplus of arms is never an issue, the ones in the level are going to be random so you don't really know what's up ahead. In one of the last levels I had Buster currently equipped and saw a Rawhide I wanted to pick up, I had a Sweet Surrender as my next arm that I didn't want but the only way to swap that would have been to basically break two arms to pick that up, and I wanted Buster. Feels bad.
That said...there are a couple of arms that are really cool. Tomboy and Buster being my early favorites. I was super happy to see Buster and that it still has all of those special DMC4 cinematic attacks on enemies and bosses. Due to that Nero is at worst on par with DMC4, and just gets better with some of his new stuff. Big fan of the divekick-esque move specifically.
V is unsurprisingly controversial. I don't mind playing him but I can see why others would when he's so different, but I'm curious to see how he fares on SoS/DMD since he was not hard at all to rack up style and avoid damage. Seems like an easy front runner to bully bloody palace if nothing else.
Dante is absolutely insane. I don't even know what else to really say on that, he's by far the most advanced and mechanics filled character I've seen in any game like this and it isn't even close. It's almost comical how much new stuff you still keep getting with him as you get near the end of the game.
Balrog is the greatest weapon in all of DMC. Weapon is a fucking blast and feels amazing, basically having its own hype announcer to track hits helps.
Environmental variety is straight up terrible. This is easily the worst part of this game, you spend the entirety of it in bland streets or a bland samey looking tree. There's maybe 2-3 levels that visually stand out. While none of the levels are a slog to get through like other DMC games struggled with, it's a shame they blend so much. The feature to see the right path was often used for me just out of confusion at where I was, and I feel it may actually be a pain to track down the rest of the orbs as most of the spots aren't going to stand out in my memory at all.
Storytelling didn't work well for me at the start. I don't like the use of in media res here, makes the player feel too detached from the stakes and what actually happened to lead up to it, especially with V just being integrated from the start. Where they take his character is not surprising at all but the story meanders around for almost half of the game because of it.
Enemies are solid and the bosses seemed great. Probably THE thing to nail in a DMC game and I'm glad they did, there's nothing that pops up and makes you groan, which should make higher difficulties fun. Bloody Palace is going to be incredible.
Game has a killer soundtrack, and I love the gallery/jukebox section. Really chill menu to read everything.
LMAO at trish and lady. Holy shit what a waste.
Just finished Mission 7, I need a fanart of
kid Vergil writing his name on the William Blake book, hahaha.
Hey, so I'm curious, does anyone know what the additional deluxe edition items listed here (https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/a1fhsl/theres_4_unknown_item_for_dmc5_deluxe_edition/) are? I'm assuming one of them is an EX Costume for V, but what are the others?
Nero is the hardest to play as for me. I finished the game but only have a linking of understanding of what each arm does. He just lacks something, one more tool in his arsenal for when you run out of arms.
Dante gets everything and he is easy to work with because his arsenal is so huge. V is so much simpler because he has the least going on control-wise. Nero really suffers being the inbetweener of combat.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
Also, I managed to get the two secret cutscenes at the end this time. I thought I had failed again because Nico said I could do better or something and Vergil said he won this time. But yay, got it. Also woah, I can now switch between all six weapons as Dante. Nice surprise.
It's games like these that really reinvigorate my interest in gaming.
The amount of love and detail and FUN in this game is so crazy. Hats off to Itsuno
The amount of love and detail and FUN in this game is so crazy. Hats off to Itsuno
I lol'd when Trish tells V she's not his mother. You can sense that she's had that conversation with Dante before.
I actually enjoy playing as Dante the least - Nero is my favorite followed by V. Almost done with Mission 10.
I really think the sitting Urizen is one of the worst boss fights i have ever seen in a character action game...3 times they interrupt this fight with a cutscene, it is a pure hype killer and completely jarring.
Finished the game on Devil Hunter a few minutes ago and I didn't really like it.
I'm a huge Bayonetta fan and somehow never played DMC, so I thought I'd like it for sure.
But the combat to me feels sluggish and not as fluid as I would've hoped.
The camera was sometimes pretty annoying and many of the later Missions looked samey.
I'm glad that the DMC fans are enjoying it, but this series is not for me.
I'm a huge Bayonetta fan and somehow never played DMC, so I thought I'd like it for sure.
But the combat to me feels sluggish and not as fluid as I would've hoped.
The camera was sometimes pretty annoying and many of the later Missions looked samey.
I'm glad that the DMC fans are enjoying it, but this series is not for me.
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Well don't fight the final boss of DmC then because that has 4-5 cutscene interruptions mid fight!
Rebind everything. Trust me. I put jump on Square, for example. The game expects you to press many buttons at once so put everything you can on shoulder buttons and move seldom used stuff to face buttons (except melee so you don't have to mash shoulders.)
Just
kick his ass at the start of the game (Prologue) for maximum catharsis.
I think I'm not optimizing enough my combos with the Devil Breakers, feels like I'm missing a lot of potential there.
Finally got to Dante and he just makes the game great. I enjoy playing as him far more than the other characters.
Still getting a lot of sound skipping though. I had some with RE2 as well. No other game does it.
Still getting a lot of sound skipping though. I had some with RE2 as well. No other game does it.
I'm no stranger to how action games are usually built to be played through across all difficulties, but I don't think DMC5's standard difficulty is very well-balanced compared to its predecessors. There may be hard modes but that doesn't really excuse how passive and gormless the enemies behave on devil hunter; it seriously hampers the combat.
Dante clicks once you get used to his moveset. Learning to switch between swordmaster and trickster on the fly is a good start.
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S rank is not that difficult, just don't use revives and such (don't die basically). Try to get hit as little as possible and keep changing up your attacks, don't repeat stuff. Parry is just timing your attack with their's, just use a move that lingers for a while for best results.
yeah lol
true, DH is severely undercooked difficulty wise
Is Capcom going to do anything about that scene... You know the one. The timing couldn't be worse for Capcom. First the Suicide Silence frontman and now this, I can't see myself purchasing this until it's removed, it's a stain on what otherwise looks to be one of the best games Capcom has made in years. It's hard to talk around it.
Damn so I'm the only one who struggled with some fights toward the end of Devil Hunter? Then again I didn't use any revives or anything, but still. I thought the game was surprisingly difficult for a Normal mode. Or maybe I was just way too focused on styling on shit and learning difficult moves to properly react to enemy attacks, heh.
I've been trying to S Rank this one too and I'm wondering if there's some trick to it (like how shooting the balloons in that one mission grants bonus points). I consistently get high style combos in every fight and go through it pretty quickly overall but I always end up with an A.
Any character is just button mashing if you're doing it wrong.