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Devil May Cry 5 |OT| It's been 11 years since we last met. Where does the time go? [Now on Xbox Gamepass]
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I really dont know where to put my expectations anymore I just need to play this already before I go crazy.
Has level design ever been a strong point in DMC? Or character action games in general?
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DMC1 had good level design but since then it has been downhill for the franchise. DmC was where they did something interesting with the linear levels though.
I expected level design to be linear with lots of combat encounter but I expected the art/aesthetics to be better than it actually is.
Windows will just send a HDR signal if windows hdr setting turned on but but the image is still SDR just tonemapped.
I turned off and compared. It is not using HDR. just windows is telling your TV it is hdr.
EDIT: I am a dumbass don't listen to me.
Turning OFF windows HDR setting, It flipped to HDR and its beautiful :D
I originally had HDR windows setting turned on and then turned it off when I didn't see a toggle.
I am happy now.
I turned off and compared. It is not using HDR. just windows is telling your TV it is hdr.
EDIT: I am a dumbass don't listen to me.
Turning OFF windows HDR setting, It flipped to HDR and its beautiful :D
I originally had HDR windows setting turned on and then turned it off when I didn't see a toggle.
I am happy now.
I mean I havent played it but I always expected it to be hyper linear due to the nature of character actions games. I dont know why people expected some souls-esque level design since it would become annoying on later playthroughs.
Managed to play the prologue and first mission last night. Really like how the game eases you into the controls and moves. Something I wish the demo did, instead of just throwing the player in there with missing moves and a later part of the early game. The demo was a bad impression, but the full game feels pretty awesome. Very responsive, satisfying combat, just runs great in general on the PS4 Pro.
I expected DMC5 to get rid of the annoying stuff from the previous games in regards to level design. Never expected it to be actually good, but in a way, nothing is better than bad.
It's similar to how I feel about Kingdom Hearts. I completely agree when people say that KH1 had much more complex level design, and 2 is just a straight line with enemies. They're absolutely correct. What that sentence misses though is that the complex level design in KH1 was also hot garbage. So no level design is better in this instance.
If they can deliver great level design in DMC, I'd be thrilled, but I'd rather not risk getting a new beyblade and end up with a DMC5 that will only be worth it for Bloody Palace in a couple of months. Been there before, I'd rather get a good, replayable campaign.
It's similar to how I feel about Kingdom Hearts. I completely agree when people say that KH1 had much more complex level design, and 2 is just a straight line with enemies. They're absolutely correct. What that sentence misses though is that the complex level design in KH1 was also hot garbage. So no level design is better in this instance.
If they can deliver great level design in DMC, I'd be thrilled, but I'd rather not risk getting a new beyblade and end up with a DMC5 that will only be worth it for Bloody Palace in a couple of months. Been there before, I'd rather get a good, replayable campaign.
In DMC1, Ninja Gaiden, Metal Gear Rising. It's not super common, but the idea that character action games can't have good level design with interesting layouts along with combat encounters is untrue. DMCV is the biggest character action title in years, so I don't see why it should get a free pass on that. It can still be a great game with lame level design, but it could also be a great game with great level design if they tried harder.
Same. It went into HDR automatically just like with RE2.
Perhaps it's never been the stand out characteristic of one, however the environment and arenas where you traverse and battle enemies should have some thought behind them. This game so far is really poor in that regard. Early chapters mind you, hopefully it picks up. However from my experience it's been serviceable at best and poorly designed at worst.
Can you buy the deluxe edition stuff separately? I would get it, but I don't want the Red Orbs.
Really liking it atm even though I'm only at mission 4.
Just looking in every nook and cranny for secrets is top fun.
Really enjoying the characters too.
Can see multiple playthroughs Inc.
Just looking in every nook and cranny for secrets is top fun.
Really enjoying the characters too.
Can see multiple playthroughs Inc.
Metal Gear Rising had good level design? 🤔
Anyway, I'm three missions in. Had a novel experience of fighting a new DMC boss for the first time and dying a lot feeling clueless (no gold orbs for me boyo). Which was great.
But why so many tight corridors? I agree with this criticism. At least have more open areas.
Anyway, I'm three missions in. Had a novel experience of fighting a new DMC boss for the first time and dying a lot feeling clueless (no gold orbs for me boyo). Which was great.
But why so many tight corridors? I agree with this criticism. At least have more open areas.
Windows 10 is confusing the hell out of me. I've got two monitors and my TV hooked up to my PC. From what I can tell DMC5 will only allow resolutions based on what you set as your main display. So everytime I start it up I have to make my TV my main display (I usually have it set to not display) and switch it back when I'm done. Am I lazy or could this whole thing be set up better, maybe even allowing for multiple profiles you can easily change between.
This video finally made me understand the appeal of character action games.
I've tried to get into the genre before with attempts at Bayonetta, DMC 3/4, Ninja Gaiden, and others but I've always bounced off. The notion of pulling off dozens of moves to clear areas and kill enemies just seemed so counterintuitive to why and how I play games. Videos of massive insane combos looked awesome and stylish, but always seemed excessive and a waste. What's the thrill of destroying an enemy with so many moves?
But the description of the deliberateness and strategy to character action combat really made the appeal understandable. The idea of pulling off such stylish attacks where every blow and maneuver is a matter of deliberate timing and positioning and knowledge of movesets is a pretty enticing concept, and I can see why there's so much awe towards those insane combos.
After playing the demo quite a few times and trying to be more mindful of my moves and scores, it really started to click. Looking forward to the full game now
I've tried to get into the genre before with attempts at Bayonetta, DMC 3/4, Ninja Gaiden, and others but I've always bounced off. The notion of pulling off dozens of moves to clear areas and kill enemies just seemed so counterintuitive to why and how I play games. Videos of massive insane combos looked awesome and stylish, but always seemed excessive and a waste. What's the thrill of destroying an enemy with so many moves?
But the description of the deliberateness and strategy to character action combat really made the appeal understandable. The idea of pulling off such stylish attacks where every blow and maneuver is a matter of deliberate timing and positioning and knowledge of movesets is a pretty enticing concept, and I can see why there's so much awe towards those insane combos.
After playing the demo quite a few times and trying to be more mindful of my moves and scores, it really started to click. Looking forward to the full game now
Ok, cool. I was asking because I didn't finish DMC4 but I still want to at some point, but I didn't know how it would hold up after 5.
That video was really good. And yeah, the fact that every step of a combo you see was the player's own input makes a huge difference. Whenever something cool happens, it's because you did it.
I'm not sure if that's related, but I actually really dislike action movies, and even fighting anime. Videogames is the only media where I enjoy dumb action stuff, just people punching the shit out of each other. It's just not compelling to me in other media. So whenever a game wants to show me a bunch of cool looking stuff through QTEs and the like, I'm not interested at all. I don't care about crazy action, I care about putting in the effort to make the action look crazy.
two and a half hours until release
pizza has been delivered and devoured
it's almost time to get crazy
pizza has been delivered and devoured
it's almost time to get crazy
You can, but the red orbs are just a pre-order bonus, so you can buy the DE after release and get everything at the discounted price.
The level design isn't nothing though, its straight up become annoying by mid game. Everything looks the exact same now and feels like pure filler. Like you have to ask yourself "which way did i come into this room, was it from this corridor or that one" too often.
Like in dmc4 you start in the city, go to the snow castle, go to the underground labs, go to the forest etc. Here theres two options for 90% of the game explore ruined city, explore tree. Theres abit of varation to parts of the city atleast, but my god the tree. Imagine if half the game was Bayonettas 2 hell stage, cause thats whats it is.
This is just what the game looks like now
Platinum is manageable. Only tough one is S Ranking every mission on every difficulty. DMD is hard af when just trying to survive but S ranking it makes it much harder because you gotta avoid damage (enemies will literally 2 shot you if you slack off) and pull off risky stylish actions. Though with a few more run throughs im sure i can find a cheesy strategy. Sitting at 79% on trophies atm.
Man this game is incredibely well optimized on PC, getting between 140-200fps depending on the location with everything maxed out at a native 1440p with my 1080Ti, sometimes even higher. The RE engine is truly amazing, game feels so smooth.
Yeah it's such a great engine, I was thinking man I wish more games used it. 4k60 everything maxed doesn't even make my 2080ti break a sweat. It's a greta game too. So enjoying itMan this game is incredibely well optimized on PC, getting between 140-200fps depending on the location with everything maxed out at a native 1440p with my 1080Ti, sometimes even higher. The RE engine is truly amazing, game feels so smooth.
I'm loving it so far. That's including V - I got the sense that people didn't like how different he was but he's pretty fun. Some of his extra stuff in levels is a bit annoying if you don't have that DT but know where to use it. I suppose that's what replays are for.
Runs great on my PS4 and outside of a few cutscene moments and load times I barely have any issues with the game on a technical level. I'm glad it got a good budget and plenty of time to cook in the oven, becuase this is easily the best Devil May Cry game.
Runs great on my PS4 and outside of a few cutscene moments and load times I barely have any issues with the game on a technical level. I'm glad it got a good budget and plenty of time to cook in the oven, becuase this is easily the best Devil May Cry game.