If so we have no way of knowing how many games that 19 mil covered. Them paying 19 million for just DMC 5 is laughable.
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Devil May Cry 5 coming to Game Pass seems to have leaked
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If so we have no way of knowing how many games that 19 mil covered. Them paying 19 million for just DMC 5 is laughable.
If ms did pay 19 mil just to have dmc v on gamepass... damn, tgey could've funded a whole game with that.
Sounds like a bit much. If $19 mil has anything to do with DMC5, I would bet the deal included some other content as well. Maybe RE2 and Monster Hunter IB as well? Just guessing. Data apparently shows they don't lose sales in Game Pass so $19 mil for one game doesn't sound right.
But.. I haven't finished the original yet!
I'd be totally lost if I jumped straight into 5, right?
I'd be totally lost if I jumped straight into 5, right?
I agree that if this $19m figure is truly related to Gamepass, it's more than likely a deal for a number of different titles, not just DMC5.
Getting the undisputed 2019 GOTY on Game Pass is an insane deal.
The universally acknowledged peak of the Heisei era. The alpha and the omega.
The universally acknowledged peak of the Heisei era. The alpha and the omega.
A bit much based on what exactly? How many people use GP? How many would download DMC5? If even 633k people downloaded the game at a value of say $30 to Capcom per copy, that's your $19m right there.
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The thing is 633K units is A LOT to expect out of DMC5 on xbox at this point in time at that price. Capcom titles on Xbox typically garner a 20% share out of the total amount of sales after-all. So if you're spending that much money, i'd wager that sort of price would make more sense for say something like GwG if they were really wanting to have a banger month.
You'll be fine. Comboing shit to death requires no knowledge of the story.
I don't disagree with you, but it isn't necessarily just about the number Capcom think they may have sold otherwise, but the value they assign to the game in and of itself, per download. They won't exactly want to give away hundreds of thousands of copies for free.
Lest we forget they could be potentially devaluing the game and even other Capcom titles, if Xbox, multiplatform and PC gamers become more comfortable or patient in simply waiting for tentpole Capcom releases to hit Game Pass instead of buying them.
I do think these elements make discussing things related to GP quite difficult or assumption based, since we simply don't know much about the financial side of the service, nor how many subscribers there even are.
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That is a good point, the limited knowledge we have really just sets us up to just guessing worth and other factors.
Most definitely include other games, probably RE2, Onimusha, something MH related, RE7, etc.
Microsoft has the marketing for DMC5, just because Sony sponsoring the tournament doesn't change that.
No. Play it. There's an option to get the backstory within DMC5. The overarching plot points aren't really the point anyways. It's a gamers game. Great gameplay. Goofy cutscenes.
If this gets confirmed in the next week, you could potentially get a refund.
That's not how that works. Data shows sales go up with XGP at this point due to mindshare gains. It cost Capcom nothing when you download a game. The cost would be lost sales...which at this point seem to be minimal at best.
Maybe.. and we'll never know for sure. That Capcom article earlier sounded like it was for one ip though.
Games can still be on GP and still sell units. Didn't State of Decay 2 sell 2 million units in its first month despite being on GPA day 1?
This is a win win for Capcom.
This is a win win for Capcom.
I knew waiting for DMCV to come to GP, and not buying it was going to pay off, and I totally did not just forget it launched earlier this year.
Announce RE2:R and Iceborne for September now. Please and thank you.
Announce RE2:R and Iceborne for September now. Please and thank you.
There isn't nearly enough data to conclude that yet, especially as Game Pass subscription numbers continue to rise and the service becomes more widespread. Crackdown 3 flopped despite GP, whilst other titles performed better than expected (FH4, SoT). Releases like Gears 5, Halo Infinite etc will give us a clearer picture of the sort of impact GP may or may not be having on sales, especially as we can compare with past franchise release sales.
Hell, speaking purely anecdotally, I'd likely have bought DMC5 at some point on sale. It's a title that I want to play, but not enough to spend top dollar, or prioritise ahead of other games. With it releasing on GP, there's no chance I buy it now. Hell, there's several others in this very thread saying something similar, that they didn't buy the game because of GP.
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We have no clue, that's the dumb thing about splitting the services. A PC gamer will say "Game Pass" and mean "Xbox Game Pass for PC" and a Xbox gamer will say "Game Pass" and mean "Xbox Game Pass for Xbox". :/
There has been no official announcement upon which they will clue you in on if it's on Xbox Game Pass on PC, console, or both.
Huge part of gaming budgets is advertising. Mindshare is super important. Game Pass boosts mindshare. It's not going to save bad or mediocre games. Those games will get negative mindshare. It will help games that develop cult followings or are good.
State of Decay and Sea of Thieves received mediocre ratings however had passionate niche audiences that drove mindshare. Those games exceeded expectations. Even Matt P says most games exceed expected sales when they've been put in Game Pass. May not hold forever if Game Pass saturates and consumers get smart to wait for games to hit the service but for now, data shows Game Pass helps.
I wouldn't be surprised if they would confuse things with xCloud as well.
Xbox Game Pass for xCloud for Mobile
Xbox Game Pass for xCloud for Xbox
Xbox Game Pass for xCloud for PC
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It took for this to situation for me to realize just how annoying this is going to be. Hopefully in the future "Game Pass" will just mean both Xbox and PC without users having to worry if they are or aren't getting the game.
Capcom is pretty good about gamepass. I wouldn't be suprised if resident Evelin 7, dragons dogma and Phoenix Wright all popped up on it. I doubt RE2 just yet because that'll have some holiday legs
I'm one of those 2 million because I adore what Undead Labs does with their systems. And have had Gamepass since they put that out as well.
This is why I don't like these services. It has already devalued games. Plus and GwG devalues indies and Game Pass devalues AAA games.
Not even close. It sold best in NPD its month but was no where the next month. That 2 million figure was players. It would have to sell well over 1 million in NPD that first month to even come close to 2 million.
Yeah it's like they're afraid to make big changes so they just take these confusing babysteps instead.
They were sooo close to fix it with the combo sub Xbox Game Pass Ultimate but since they kept the old subs you still have people wondering what they'll get every month.
And I don't quite understand how they plan to get it all right going forward. They have so many services now that it's starting to be complicated to explain the value of them all.
Everyone is negative on Stadia for not including any Game Pass alternative, so it should be assumed that xCloud will include streaming+Xbox Game Pass for Xbox to not be in that same bad PR scenario.
Game Pass is currently at $10/month, same as Stadia 4K streaming with online play included, so MS will essentially have to include Xbox Live Gold into xCloud as well to be competitive.
And what would be a reasonable price for xCloud with streaming+Xbox Game Pass for Xbox+Xbox Live Gold included that doesn't make xCloud seem awfully expensive compared to Stadia (which have a free sub too) and don't piss of current subscribers for the individual services?
