I dont know enough about this stuff to make a judgement. I am fine waiting for Kotaku/Eurogamer etc to a do a proper story and a follow up with Epic. Its not like I have it installed on my PC and need to act immediately.
/shrug.
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I dont know enough about this stuff to make a judgement. I am fine waiting for Kotaku/Eurogamer etc to a do a proper story and a follow up with Epic. Its not like I have it installed on my PC and need to act immediately.
/shrug.
I totally welcome the Epic store.
This is a little price to pay for the glorious curated experience that the Epic games Store gives us.
Why shouldn't they collect data from a completely different app on my pc?
On a more serious note: Can Valve push an update to stop this or protect the data?
This is a little price to pay for the glorious curated experience that the Epic games Store gives us.
Why shouldn't they collect data from a completely different app on my pc?
On a more serious note: Can Valve push an update to stop this or protect the data?
They got acquired by Tencent. /s
I just find it ironic they're taking data without disclosing it and happen to be owned by a data hungry company with ties to the Chinese government.
Fuck, so their launcher is a fucking spyware? I just install it to get the free games they were giving. But it seems they were not so free.
Is there any way that EPIC can spin this? Or does it appear they might be f**ked (At least in Europe)
Those outlets have consistently failed to report on issues like this. You are better trusting users here who verify it.
Europe is niche breh? At some point you just gotta let the company take the L, whether you like them or not. Embarassing yourself over here.
Exactly. And Sergey still gets paid for SteamSpy. This stuff really doesn't seem on the up and up.
I hadn't considered Sergey actually using it for steamspy stuff, that would be REALLY bad. I thought steam spy kind of wound down and haven't looked at it in a long time though so that's probably just me not thinking about it.
Of course, they can change the data format or even encrypt it (as far as the steam files; game saves, if it's reading them directly, have to be left alone since the game has to be able to read them), though I suspect Epic will be removing this 'feature' as soon as it hits some of the bigger news sites and they probably won't do anything before then anyway.
Of course, they can change the data format or even encrypt it (as far as the steam files; game saves, if it's reading them directly, have to be left alone since the game has to be able to read them), though I suspect Epic will be removing this 'feature' as soon as it hits some of the bigger news sites and they probably won't do anything before then anyway.
I lurked on this forum for a while now.
Finally registered to thank the OP for their inquiry.
I will uninstall this launcher as soon as I get home (not like I ever played any of those freebies anyway).
I can only hope someone at epic enjoyed the hours played of my Steam copy of Metro Exodus going up this month.
Finally registered to thank the OP for their inquiry.
I will uninstall this launcher as soon as I get home (not like I ever played any of those freebies anyway).
I can only hope someone at epic enjoyed the hours played of my Steam copy of Metro Exodus going up this month.
BTW: Remember this Thread? The Epic Games Store as described by Sergey Galyonkin
Now we know how they got this data. They even use the data to check how often you use steam.
Now we know how they got this data. They even use the data to check how often you use steam.
A bit off topic but it is genuinely shocking to me that steam cloud data backups are just sitting there unencrypted.
This is, like, actually anti-consumer in a very precise and concrete way that their acquisitions are not, or at least goes beyond the ways in which capitalistic standard-operating-procedures are anti-consumer.
Well there are definitely ways in Windows (as I imagine most Steam and EGS combination users are) to restrict both read and write access to files, but it's hard to prevent access to these files with specific programs so easily. I don't know of any obvious way to give Steam access to them and not prevent other programs from having access, though.
This is, like, actually anti-consumer in a very precise and concrete way that their acquisitions are not, or at least goes beyond the ways in which capitalistic standard-operating-procedures are anti-consumer.
Well there are definitely ways in Windows (as I imagine most Steam and EGS combination users are) to restrict both read and write access to files, but it's hard to prevent access to these files with specific programs so easily. I don't know of any obvious way to give Steam access to them and not prevent other programs from having access, though.
It would be no big problem if they just collected the "usual data", CPU, GPU, etc. No, they collected specific data without consent.
If they collect specific data they have to specify somewhere in clear and readable language what data they collect and for what they use them. I found nothing about that on their site.
If they collect specific data they have to specify somewhere in clear and readable language what data they collect and for what they use them. I found nothing about that on their site.
That's a massive yikes from me, my dude. Unless they specified they would do this in their ToS (which they obviously didn't), then that's shady af.
That said, can we please layoff the Yellow Scare shit? Regardless of how shady the Chinese government and corporations like Tencent are, the conspiracies aren't a good look.
I mean, where's the lie tho? If the debacles over the Mass Effect 3 ending have taught me anything, it's that the gaming crowd is the last people you want to deal with on a regular basis, especially now in the age of social media.
That said, can we please layoff the Yellow Scare shit? Regardless of how shady the Chinese government and corporations like Tencent are, the conspiracies aren't a good look.
I mean, where's the lie tho? If the debacles over the Mass Effect 3 ending have taught me anything, it's that the gaming crowd is the last people you want to deal with on a regular basis, especially now in the age of social media.
I'm sick today so zero
I have all the strawberry guava diet coke tho
If he uses any Google product, even just the search engine, or Facebook/Twitter his PII is already compromised.
Reads to me more like he thinks Epic are entitled to market share just because they've thrown some money around, and people should just shut up, accept it, and unquestioningly CONSUME.
this whataboutism reply is really tiring, it's not ok for google to do it too.
everyone ive talked to from texas spews shit like this honestly.
TEXAS IS BIGGER THAN ALASKA! they swear
Fair. I think it's because I want to be a creative type at some point, and seeing stuff like people demanding that Casey Hudson change the ending to ME3 and not respecting his response of it violating his and Mac's artistic integrity makes me more sympathetic to those types of statements.
But yeah, as a guy who's gamed on consoles most of his life, moneyhatting exclusives isn't that big of a deal to me. Using my data without express permission is a whole other matter.
Ever try a guava paste sandwich with mozzarela? It's good, seriously, but using that in sweets is pretty common from what I gather, but mixing it's juice with Strawberry juice though, ok I'm curious, trying it out sometime, but I could do without the coke, which is probably what makes them a lot more sweet already, considering how sugary they can be.
And back on topic, they are totally getting GDPR fines on their hands, riiiight?
I wonder if Spybot - Search and Destroy is still around.
Weren't those the good ol days? Having to worry about that shit on a regular basis?
Weren't those the good ol days? Having to worry about that shit on a regular basis?
Hehe it is just funny to me because i just ended 7 days streak of fresh lemon+orange+grapefruit 3 times per day to combat flu i caught XD
That always was oddly specific number and statement from them.
Either pure bullshit or something dodgy shit like this used to generate data.
Seems to me like even in the console space, MS doing the type of deals like what Epic are doing caused the Tomb Raider series a significant degree of harm.
I'm going to have Steam running a single game all month and convince Epic to moneyhat Bad Rats 3.