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Developers, I'm in my 30s, I have a 9-5, I only have time for one living game and its likely not yours
- Thread starter sn00zer
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Well, you used to be able to put a game on your backlog and 'make time for it' or come back for it later. Now? You would have missed out on some cool skins, events, and other time limited content. It's great if that doesn't bother you and you don't suffer from FOMO.. but the way these games are designed they will get their hooks in you.
OP
OP
Yes...Why? Are there other people who have different needs/situations?
It describes me too. It's like a bunch of streaming services split off from Netflix. They are just cannibalizing each others sales, but don't seem to care.
Take some comfort in knowing it's not just you OP. I'm pretty sure everyone only has time for one (or two if they're lucky).
More like Gen Xer
Damn son...
More like Gen Xer
Damn son...
What is wrong with you two? You completely misread OPs point. He's simply stating what we've all thought, which is it's hard as hell to get into more than one or maybe two GAS at a time.
lol I didn't mean it that way. Maybe I should make a brag thread lol
MMOs always had the big problem that WoW existed.
So when a new MMO came out, you had to compare it to WoW. This usually meant the new MMO would lose out content wise cause WoW had like 2 expansions and the new MMO obviously didn't.
So people played the new MMO for a month and then back to WoW.
sn00zer,
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As always, thank you for your passionate love toward our amazing interactive and rapidly-evolving experience.
-Developers
We at BigPub, Inc. value all feedback from our beloved fans. Gamers like you are core to our strategy to create compelling content that's both fun and exciting. We've added you to our weekly mailing list so that you can be the first to know when hot new games launch from our talented teams of best-in-class developers, like GaaStation and FormerlyNotGaasButNowGaas.
As always, thank you for your passionate love toward our amazing interactive and rapidly-evolving experience.
-Developers
lol im in the same boat, and im trying to get through outer worlds before death stranding. It aint happening
That's not what the OP is saying
And Ubisoft have already had to pivot on their "Let's make everything a 500 hour GaaS grind" because a few titles have under performed, because amazingly, like the OP says, people only have so much time
Publishers can't push out 500 hour long GaaS titles every year, support them all for years and years, and expect them all to do well
Right. I'm agreeing with his point.
It's difficult, and is designed that way. The fact that we (since my experience is pretty much the exact same as the OP) aren't able to partake in these games anymore is because we aren't the demographic anymore; our relevance to the publisher is null, unless we are fringe consumers that aren't accounted for.
I think, in the future, we'll see a winnowing down of GaaS titles, but I don't think we'll see Ubisoft or Bungie or whoever stop making games of that scope in the GaaS sphere; they make money, appeal to a demographic that has started playing it and will probably continue until the next generation becomes that demographic, and can change with demand pretty fluidly, providing for competence.
OP
OP
No no. They are right. The only way to take my post is that I believe my situation is the only one that exists. That I myself.....a person in my 30s with 40+ hour a week office job....believe myself to be the only demographic worth catering to. There is no other way to interpret my post. You Mr. Stardust, are the one who misread.
I'm in my 30s and can keep up with anything because I hate the idea of being dedicated to one title
So? If I put a single player story driven game in my backlog, I might end up having it spoilt, if I don't play a multiplayer game at launch the player base may dwindle and I may struggle to find matches, heck, I may just forget about the game in general and have wasted my money. There have always been issues with dropping a game, and not geting to experience some content like skins or a timed event cus I don't feel like playing isn't really that big deal, not enough to really throw a tantrum about because clearly there are people that really like the game and want more content, and I don't really think it's reasonable to deprive them cus I'm complaining there's too much cool stuff.
I guess I misunderstood. I agree then. It's a point I've been making for years actually and it's tragically funny how developers jump on the GaaS bandwagon when it's clearly unsustainable.
You sound like me a couple years ago, OP. Let me save you some frustration. Stop playing those games and stick to the linear single-player games. I've been playing games like Tomb Raider, Batman, Bioshock, Outer Worlds (kind of linear), etc for the last year and I'm loving it. They pause for you and they don't pressure you to come back every day. Welcome, casual.
Remember when everyone complained about the shortening lengths of single player games?
I now cherish them, aint got time or patience for the current bloat levels.
I now cherish them, aint got time or patience for the current bloat levels.
It is always the same. When a genre becomes successful, many games are produced that end up selling fatally by market saturation.
But if by some chance you get to be the top dog in that genre, you can earn an obscene amount of money, like Epic with Fortnite.
There is always talk of "ambition" in video games, that is exactly ambition.
But if by some chance you get to be the top dog in that genre, you can earn an obscene amount of money, like Epic with Fortnite.
There is always talk of "ambition" in video games, that is exactly ambition.
Lol it's so weird to me how many people are hostile towards the OP, or are assuming the OP wants all games to appeal to only them, when that isn't the case at all if you read the OP
So much insecurity over people questioning their 1000 hour long grind treadmills
It's cool if people somehow have the time to sink 100s of hours in every new GaaS title that comes out, but most people don't, and if there are teens and kids that can sink 10 hours a day into keeping up with half a dozen AAA GaaS titles, then they're neglecting other important aspects of their life in order to do so
So much insecurity over people questioning their 1000 hour long grind treadmills
It's cool if people somehow have the time to sink 100s of hours in every new GaaS title that comes out, but most people don't, and if there are teens and kids that can sink 10 hours a day into keeping up with half a dozen AAA GaaS titles, then they're neglecting other important aspects of their life in order to do so
I have this issue too. I was interested in Destiny 2 as they released the free to play version. But the game has a battle pass like a lot of other Live Services right now, and there's no way I can level it up in time because I already have Apex Legends' battle pass to level up. I can't fit more than one of these kinds of games into my life.
Now I was thinking of trying Destiny 2 again, but I have no chance of ever getting level 100 in Destiny's battle pass. I'm at level 4 and there's 36 days remaining so getting level 100 is nearly impossible now, especially with Apex Legends still being a thing. Therefore I'm just not going to bother playing it.
Now I was thinking of trying Destiny 2 again, but I have no chance of ever getting level 100 in Destiny's battle pass. I'm at level 4 and there's 36 days remaining so getting level 100 is nearly impossible now, especially with Apex Legends still being a thing. Therefore I'm just not going to bother playing it.
I'm in my 30s and keep up with multiple. You don't have to put all of your gaming time into one game regardless if it's living or not. 30 minutes here, 15 minutes there, 45 minutes somewhere else. If I don't accomplish every single thing in the game it's fine too. It's more about the journey.
Why are weirdos getting mad at the OP for bringing up something that actually matters to the industry? A lot of these service games fail because of this issue.
The opening flurry of responses are gamefaqs worthy.
The opening flurry of responses are gamefaqs worthy.
I don't understand how so many here are misreading what the OP is saying.
This issue can cause the next big video game collapse.
This is why I stopped playing PUBG, Rocket League, Overwatch, ....
What's the point in posting this?
This issue can cause the next big video game collapse.
This is why I stopped playing PUBG, Rocket League, Overwatch, ....
What's the point in posting this?
You can't have a sensible conversation about games if you're even slightly critical of something people enjoy, because the people that enjoy the thing you're critical of can't wait to shitpost away criticism of the thing they love
Newsflash OP, the world doesn't spin around you.
You prolly think it does and that developers need somehow to carter to your specific needs, but it doesn't.
You prolly think it does and that developers need somehow to carter to your specific needs, but it doesn't.
It's a "Dear Developers, " post, if the OP is trying to say something else they sorta failed at expressing it. It comes off like a rant and not a critique.
I would just move on from companies making those sort of games. They're clearly rolling the dice with projects like that in the hope of hitting it big with impressionable kids and teens on a Fortnite or Minecraft type success, even with nine failed projects and one massive success it's still a win and I'm sure they understand that.
I work two jobs (50+ hour weeks), am 35, and I have time for long games. You just gotta pace yourself accordingly. Play a hour a day. Those hours add up. I did that with Persona 4, and eventually beat that 100+ hour game. Took me about 3 months, but I was determined. Instead of watching a sports game, reality show, or anything else, play a game for a hour before bed. It's not hard.
Everyone doesn't play the exact same living game though. Just like everyone doesn't play the same static single player games. Even within the same genre. People aren't going to have enough time to play every released game regardless if it's living or not. You see how many games release a day between indies and AAAs?
This isn't about a game being long.
The problem is with these live service games that give you a time limit to complete events or objectives. Some of these give you daily or weekly objectives requiring you to play every day or week. You can't play these at your own pace, you need to do the chores or miss out.
If Ubisoft listened to people like the OP maybe the Division 2 wouldn't have performed below expectations and maybe Breakpoint wouldn't have flopped
The underlying issue of the OP, is that there are too many GaaS titles that want all your time, and they can't all be played, and now some of these games are starting to fail.
It's a valid point and one the industry should be paying attention to, it's not one gamer on a forum trying to force the industry to cater to him
I get where you're coming from OP, but I've learned to just simply skip certain games if they follow a live service model due to time. I play Destiny 2 a lot and outside of that I don't have enough time (or desire) to dump equal parts time into another live service game.
Ubisoft is already experiencing diminishing returns with trying to turn EVERYTHING into a gaas title. I've told friends that even if every single gaas title was exactly what I wanted and checked every box, I just simply don't have the time to play them all, developers are starting to realize this slowly.
Ubisoft is already experiencing diminishing returns with trying to turn EVERYTHING into a gaas title. I've told friends that even if every single gaas title was exactly what I wanted and checked every box, I just simply don't have the time to play them all, developers are starting to realize this slowly.
