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Dev on Sony’s Crossplay Stance: ‘Families Want to Play Together and Nobody Owns Four PlayStations’
- Thread starter Cranster
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The confusion comes from Sony just not telling devs a clear yes or no. Instead using that vague Beta program with no clear rules on how to get accepted (in reality we all know you're right. The big fish get better treatment, the question is, when do you become a bigger fish)
lol devs now suddendly worry about "families who can't play together"
Do you know what's actually stopping families from playing together? the absolute lack of local multiplayer in every game created in the past 10 years. And that's not Sony's fault, that's yours.
Mind you I'm not defending the lack of crossplay which is also ridiculous
Do you know what's actually stopping families from playing together? the absolute lack of local multiplayer in every game created in the past 10 years. And that's not Sony's fault, that's yours.
Mind you I'm not defending the lack of crossplay which is also ridiculous
i guess when you have a big enough fanbase that sony ignoring their request for crossplay just becomes bad PR for them and they'd rather allow it than get constant negative press about it.
Are you pretending to mistake this for the point of my post? It wasn't the point. I've replied to a specific baseless complaint, that seemed to be a general sentiment on Era: Sony doesn't allow crossplay. It does. With PC and mobile. Everything else in my post was only an acknowledgement of ongoing development in crossplay between consoles situation. Way to read half of a part of a post.
Assuming that is true that Sony doesn't have an issue with PC and mobile, then the example given in the OP is bad and that PS4/iPad/iPhone family can cross-play in peace.
Sony Owes no one crossplay. We all know the only crossplay that matters is PS4 and XBOX.Switch doesn't count. Sony doesn't want to crossplay with Xbox because their sales data probably shows that people are buying the ps4 to play with their ps4 friends. The more people buy the PlayStation the healthier the ecosystem. Full crossplay with Xbox is never happening...nextgen is a different story.
I'm sure they'll jump on board but they're definitely a little behind with their policy.
I won't take away all the good stuff they've but this is something I wish all companies would get on board with.
I won't take away all the good stuff they've but this is something I wish all companies would get on board with.
except for, you know, the fact that games that are not shovelware and fit into that :family: can be counted in 1 hand.
I do believe this will change in the next few years and start to become far more normal.
It's possible Sony may use it as a big bit of positive PR leading into the PS5, whereas with the PS4 there's no real need right now other than goodwill.
I look forward to our cross-play future.
It's possible Sony may use it as a big bit of positive PR leading into the PS5, whereas with the PS4 there's no real need right now other than goodwill.
I look forward to our cross-play future.
"Dad's going to play on the iPad, one kid is on the PS4, another kid is on his phone"
Isn't this a bad example since Sony doesn't block cross play unless it's with the rival consoles?
Isn't this a bad example since Sony doesn't block cross play unless it's with the rival consoles?
If we're talking non F2P multiplatform games, I doubt many families actually own all three consoles, four copies of a single game and three simultaneous recurring online subscriptions either lol. PS4, PC, mobile crossplay is probably going to be the most feasible option.
That said, crossplay is obviously a good thing, and it's good to see Sony slowly make some leeway in that area.
I agree with this!
And i am against crossplay. I dont understand the urgency this gen for it . This is a business so i can understand why the leader is saying no.
Except this generation the technology is in place where crossplay can be implemented with very minimal development ("flick of a switch") so the hurdle now is policy bullshit instead of a real hurdle.
But you are a consumer, why do you care about Sony's business model vs receiving more options? Do you think crossplay is suddenly going to pull them from their market leader position and that devs wills top making ps4 games?
Corporate cheerleading is so weird
I still stand by the fact that announcing you're finally catching up with what every other system has already been doing won't give that much positive PR. It's not like it's gonna be some huge announcement. When they finally added it to Fortnite they just tweeted it out.
All this mess, imo, started not because people wanted to play with PS4-Xbox. Nobody ever cared about it. This whole thing began with people wanting to keep cosmetic items bought in PS4 version of Fortnight, when playing Switch version on the go. Like 95% of people was meaning cross progression, when they were talking crossplay. Microsoft just saw an opportunity to jump on this train and shifted conversation a bit. It was insane to watch.
Entitled gamers are even weirder, good job with the game calling...lol real mature
I'm always commenting on the content of the OP and not on the general problem of cross-play. That's how discussions should be made. I just think that the example used in the OP is bad. The topic of cross-play between consoles is very important nevertheless.
not happening people. sony is not opening up their platform now that xbox cloud and google are announced.
I was talking about the general topic of giving a shit about corporate policy vs consumer options.
I have 2 PS4's and I have the same emotional attachment to them as I do my toaster. They currently have the best console gaming experience for me but I will drop them in a heartbeat next gen if better options are there
Yeah, selling crossplay support as a feature would be kind of pathetic. Especially when time and time again devs demonstrated that it is solely a policy issue, not a technical problem.
that's the whole point i think. If you love sony games, there is not anything out there that can compete.
What I came here for. LoadingReadyRun are just the best.
Data suggests that over 50% of Switch owners also own a PS4 actually. And over 40% own an Xbox One. So there's definitely some decent crossover in the market. We're not a market of single console owners.
Is there any data on how many people pay for more than one online service?
They keep shooting themselves in the foot before next gen, bravo.
But seriously they won't do it because next gen they will lose that "can only play with your friends on PS5" and they have zero multiplayer games that are better than third party titles.
Business wise they can't do it.
But seriously they won't do it because next gen they will lose that "can only play with your friends on PS5" and they have zero multiplayer games that are better than third party titles.
Business wise they can't do it.
No. It's a business, so I can understand why the leader is saying no.
I'm against cross play because up until Microsoft said " we are good with it this time around, it's the otherguys being stubborn" nobody was in an uproar.
It would be nice, I guess, but should not be expected, nor demanded.
I didnt buy my xbox to play with ps friends, and vice versa.
So he's talking mobile/PC crossplay? Sony never seemed to have an issue with those, just crossplay with other consoles... so that "4 PS4s" line doesn't make a lot of sense tbh.
Good to hear that Sony are being pressured on the issue at least. Hopefully more devs will keep publicly hammering them about it.
Good to hear that Sony are being pressured on the issue at least. Hopefully more devs will keep publicly hammering them about it.
that doesn't explain why you, a gamer, are against it. it's something devs want, people want it too, why not support those who want it? it won't affect you in any negative way.
Expect to get a bunch of strawman arguments thrown at you to try to discredit you. It's either pure vitriol or you get attacked in this thread. People seem to be under the assumption that flinging shit at each other is the best way to get what they want. There will be no civil discussion here no matter how much you try.
there's 0 reasons why it shouldn't be expected or demanded. their direct competitors are allowing it freely for any game that wants it. it should be demanded and expected from sony too. no one should make up excuses for sony, or give a shit how it will affect their business (hint: it won't affect it AT ALL) other than sony themselves.
C'mon guys, stop asking for this. Why would you even want to play with friends on another platform? If they're really important to you, why don't you buy the platform they're on, or ask them to buy yours?
If you keep up this entitled attitude, we're risking the important things (my favorite corporation's bottom line) for some trivial benefit (like expanded options as a gamer and consumer). Be careful what you wish for.
If you keep up this entitled attitude, we're risking the important things (my favorite corporation's bottom line) for some trivial benefit (like expanded options as a gamer and consumer). Be careful what you wish for.
Then.. why not allow it for the Switch? For families, the impact would be the biggest when allowing Switch crossplay.
It's still insane to me that when three friends buy the same game with multiplayer, one friend who plays on PC can play with either one of his friends. While the other two can only play with the one playing on PC. When the other one is not playing. How does that make sense..
lol, i guess this is pretty much some people's argument. sad how gamers have these concerns.
Ever since they banned the sony corporate this thread is going downhill, no one can argue as much without saying anything as good ol' eq.