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Destiny 3 should be free to play. Change my mind.
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Honestly, I don't think Bungie is set up to support a F2P game the way a F2P game with good support needs to be. Not to mention it's hard for anyone to support a game with Destiny's AAA production values in that way. It's really hard to create content and assets at that level in the cadence it requires.
Some keep bringing this up like they have any idea how the company is structured internally. There is more to expenditures than a simple headcount. Chances are that number goes down but that is ok and possibly could have happened anyway had they stayed with Activision. There are way too many unknowns to simply say they can't do something because they have this many people working there.
Please, no. Eververse is already WAY to ingrained in the game. I'd like to see them abandon bright engrams entirely, and instead provide rewards that are earned by actually playing specific content. But I'm not expecting Bungie to do that. I would, however, expect them to double down yet again on Eververse if they had the excuse of being F2P.
It shouldn't be f2p, but it should be gaas.
No. If they're gonna do that, they can make a different IP. Destiny is a looter shooter.
A ton of free to play bespoke content isn't going to happen. It costs too much. They'll probably change their service model but the series will likely continue to be $60 entry.
I agree with another person ITT that mentioned an ARR reboot. That seems probable given what we know.
I agree with another person ITT that mentioned an ARR reboot. That seems probable given what we know.
I'd pay up-front if it meant I don't get nickeled and dimed the entire game. Those "millions" of players aren't going to pay, and just like most f2p games, will require whales to stay afloat with loads of microtransactions.
I still think a single long-running title with periodic expansions is the best way to go, and even charge a small sub-fee for annual-pass type content drops in between expansions.
You'll get your full priced product AND various DLC AND microtransactions, and you will like it!
It's always the same, people who don't play Destiny saying what Destiny should be like.
I agree with you, more mechanics, more complexity, more variety.
i don't think anybody minds paying $60 for Destiny. Destiny is great but not so amazing you want to pay another $20 or whatever every few months they 'got it right'
it worked in 2014 but there's other players in the field and they got carried away with their product's value. just destiny 3 working with whatever anthem and division are doing will work well, assuming the publishing gets worked out
it worked in 2014 but there's other players in the field and they got carried away with their product's value. just destiny 3 working with whatever anthem and division are doing will work well, assuming the publishing gets worked out
This! Stop breaking the experience and create a expanding world. Call it destiny: legend and that's it.
They shouldn't make a Destiny 3 at all. Iterate on Destiny 2, and keep building upon that. Introduce a sub model like Elder Scrolls Online Plus for people who wants to stay on top of all the expansions, and offer the ex pacs at a flat price for other players.
Turn it into a platform. Stop making sequels.
Turn it into a platform. Stop making sequels.
Bingo. They'll wrap it up as fast as they can and get the new IP on a more competent engine (UE4)
next comet expac, see you in 2022.
I know the retention designer as my teacher last semester. He played a huge role in making Destiny 2 Forsaken.
I think I can trust him and Bungie to pull it off.
I think I can trust him and Bungie to pull it off.
Destiny 3 should be more like WoW with so much content and depth it justifies a monthly subscription fee.
so bungie should just create more halo structured games after they went indie and have the freedom to do more than just halo structured games when they were owned by microsoft and tasked to just do more halo structured games?
Sounds like an intriguing plan for a studio to go indie...do more of the same shit that you used to do after you have the freedom not to!
Hell, I wish they'd charged more for the yearly pass. They charged for a year what a single DLC cost in the past, and now people are looking at this 3 month chunk and complaining endlessly that it doesn't have as much as those other DLCs by itself.
Given the amount of play I get out of Destiny, I'd gladly pay the price of 2-3 retail games a year, because I get more than 10x the amount of hours out of it I'd get out of even a massive open world game.
I know most gamers would never go along with that though. The freakouts would be serious.
If bungie does a sub service? I'd fucking throw money at that. They could do that, a yearly purchase of that years content.
They have a lot of options. But personally I think that D3 should be a sub service game with a free trial about a quarter of the way in the campaign and to Lvl 20 at least. Then introduce the sub service for the game, include different sub months and rewards for each one. yearly pass for people who don't want to buy the game fully? Let them only play on that years content so basically it becominging a GaaS and it actually becomes an MMO, and not some mmo-lite.
This I feel would be in the direction they are heading anyways, with the annual pass which in itself sounds exactly what I described. I mean if the only two largest sub mmo's can last perfectly fine under their users, and don't see any chance of draining. If Bungie comes in with a lot of content and a detailed roadmap, this would be their chance to be the only FPS MMO that doesn't handle poorly, and with their name this would no doubt blow the fuck up. This is a no brainer for them imo.
They have a lot of options. But personally I think that D3 should be a sub service game with a free trial about a quarter of the way in the campaign and to Lvl 20 at least. Then introduce the sub service for the game, include different sub months and rewards for each one. yearly pass for people who don't want to buy the game fully? Let them only play on that years content so basically it becominging a GaaS and it actually becomes an MMO, and not some mmo-lite.
This I feel would be in the direction they are heading anyways, with the annual pass which in itself sounds exactly what I described. I mean if the only two largest sub mmo's can last perfectly fine under their users, and don't see any chance of draining. If Bungie comes in with a lot of content and a detailed roadmap, this would be their chance to be the only FPS MMO that doesn't handle poorly, and with their name this would no doubt blow the fuck up. This is a no brainer for them imo.
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Yes. There were like 2 million people on last night. The Niobe labs event made it the #1 FPS on Twitch. The game's done fine, Activision's expectations are just out there, and when their stock price tanked in the fall they started putting the screws on their devs.
Games should not be free to play. At least by paying we know what we are getting, free stuff has too much lenients we are stepping ourselves into unknown territory
Nah I have got to see the "Activision is to blame" be dropped completely and that can't happen without D3.