Full Third person view. Stop freaking teasing me. I want to play the whole game in third person view.
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Destiny 2 - What do you want to come next for Destiny?
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All mostly unrealistic "wants" of mine but i feel it would all make Destiny more fun to play and overall a more fun and playtime-respecting place to "be".
And Luke Smith... I'll work real hard i promise! I'm in Quality Assurance but could fit that right in with my creative side. ;P lol
Good god, no!
Destiny has its own unique style, Borderlands is great but after going back to BL2, I came to the realisation that bring showered with loot is not a good thing, because then the loot devalued and disposable.
The infinite forest is such a wasted potential. I know that there are probably considerable technical reasons why they couldn't mix tilesets from different planets due to loading texture memory concerns, but it would be amazing if this actually worked something like Nephalim Rifts in Diablo and you hopped from one location to another for each node. At minimum though, they should be using it as the in-lore mechanism by which we replay old story content.They had the perfect setup for that by the end of Curse of Osiris and just never followed through on it.
I reached the level cap early this season for the first time since i started playing, and it's just so much more liberating to not just be focused on ticking that number up that I can actually do activities I enjoy, or focus on exotic quests or targeting better rolls on my chosen loadout. I would so much prefer a more horizontal progression mechanism like Warframe, not just chasing the next number and looking like a hobo with mismatched armor while I do it. I doubt they'll ever completely redo that system though, so at a minimum, they should just relabel as "Light" instead of "Power", which was one of the dumbest changes they made from D1 to D2, and everyone still calls it Light Level anyway.
Safe assumption that the bulk of people still playing purchased the season pass.
I'd point and laugh. They don't have the content to justify a subscription, and on top of that they've just lost two sizable development teams that were helping with content.
As a primarily solo player, I've resigned myself that I'm not likely to experience much raid content on regular basis, but I really just want some opportunity to interact with those environments and lore; would love it if they started using those maps for other solo-able quests.
Better have a whisper/zero hour quest every month if they are doing that.
Well some people like a meta that doesn't revolve around using only these certain 10 guns and this specific gear setup that you have to grind this specific activity on these specific days in order for people on the internet to allow you to play in this specific mission or game mode.
Destiny feels more like a job as-is, except I don't get paid for playing it. One of many reasons I won't be buying the next Destiny and I haven't bought the year pass. There is a reason Borderlands 3 has more features to encourage people to share their gear setups...with Destiny this would only lead to shaming 90% of the time (BUT HOW CAN YOU COMPLETE THIS RAID WITHIN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THAT TRASH???!??)
Yeah if i was paying $5-10/month it would only be for something like monthly (1) Whisper/Perfected quests (1) new MP map and (2) "side" missions (6) new weapons (6) new armor pieces (individual - let's get beyond full "sets" with D3).
Simple: Make everything in the game soloable. What that means is that every player can do every activity without having to manually browse forums or similar to find people to do content with.
Make a scrub-mode for the raids for all i care as long as it means everyone gets to experience everything. Don't lock the best items behind hard mode stuff either, give the core players stuff like cosmetics or similar for doing the harder stuff.
Make a scrub-mode for the raids for all i care as long as it means everyone gets to experience everything. Don't lock the best items behind hard mode stuff either, give the core players stuff like cosmetics or similar for doing the harder stuff.
I mean I played the game for 5 hours solo last night. Raids will never be dumbed down for solo players, the whole point of raids is team work
They catered to the casuals in destiny 2 and it back fired tremendously. They gave everything away. The best weapons should be difficult to get.
While i understand and to an extent, agree, i feel that could be a tricky balance. It's like giving players an different path to earning Not Forgotten for PvE players.... and all the hard-core sweaty PvP mains will (and have at even the thought) riot.
There's some serious E-pride players associate with Destiny accomplishments for some players. (not me personally)
I think different raid or end-game content difficulties would be great. Eliminate and or simplify some mechanics, turn down damage/increase resistance, and allow the less skilled or less serious to experience a "version" of the raid or end-game activity. Maybe hold back on the reward and keep the special shiny weapons and armor for the "real" difficulty but at least allow for a "i just want to experience a version of the content" mode. You wont get anywhere near the real experience and shouldn't be rewarded as such but it will give you an idea or a taste that might be enough for some people.
You act like borderlands 2 didn't have must have end game guns and shields? You had to farm some of those bosses over and over again to get those guns. Once you hit end game, you chase
Actually, that's a really good point. People go on and on about how Forsaken has a great story/lore, and I guess it does. But unless you play the raid, you'll have no idea about what was even going on in the ending of the solo campaign. unless you just go and read the lore somewhere else.
Or maybe that was just my experience because I never played Destiny 1. All I know is that the ending of Forsaken made no sense to me at all and felt incredibly anticlimactic.
And obviously Leviathan is basically the real ending of the original campaign. Or so I assume anyway, because it's not like I ever actually played it. And Last Wish is probably the same for Forsaken.
Please no more Destiny recycling content. I don't want Destiny 3 because I'm afraid that will se destiny 1/2 coming back. Do something different or do something else.
But no one cared. When you got into matchmaker, there wasn't someone asking to see your gear and shaming you or whatnot. People just play the game...you matchmake, join a game, and that's it. Don't like who you are playing with? Leave and find someone else. If I'm playing that boss for the 3rd time to level up and you are playing it for the 100th to get gear, no one cares in Borderlands. The need for specific gear to do things isn't there.
The wide variety and frequency of loot in Borderlands, and the "culture" around it, allows anyone to play anyway they want, without having to be in some "in-crowd of loot" so to speak.
Yup, exactly what I'm referring to.
Your post is asking one thing, but addressing two different things which are
I want them to look at whatever they do next year for Destiny 2's last legs as another opportunity to test even more out all the of the weird shit they've been thinking about; more smaller weekly narrative beats, more interesting player choices between morally ambiguous factions, more allied Fallen, more secret timed missions to rob cryptarch vaults, more golden gun duels against Hive gunsmiths, and maybe even a space hobo cooking minigame with Drifter.
I definitely do not want them to stick with D2 as the client for the rest of its lifespan, though.
The future of Destiny is in making an iterative client that carries our characters and progress across platforms and services. Let PS4 players play with Xbob players, and PC players too outside of the Crucible. After they do that, they can use the Vex as a convenient excuse to let us travel in time back to old content – either literally or as faithfully recreated simulations, either is fine to me.
By the end of this series I want to see everything ever released playable in the same client, preserved in a single (enormous!) download that represents the cumulative sum of everything they've ever learned in tandem with the players who love this series.
- What do you want to see happen to Destiny 2?
- What do you want to see happen to the series going forward?
I want them to look at whatever they do next year for Destiny 2's last legs as another opportunity to test even more out all the of the weird shit they've been thinking about; more smaller weekly narrative beats, more interesting player choices between morally ambiguous factions, more allied Fallen, more secret timed missions to rob cryptarch vaults, more golden gun duels against Hive gunsmiths, and maybe even a space hobo cooking minigame with Drifter.
I definitely do not want them to stick with D2 as the client for the rest of its lifespan, though.
The future of Destiny is in making an iterative client that carries our characters and progress across platforms and services. Let PS4 players play with Xbob players, and PC players too outside of the Crucible. After they do that, they can use the Vex as a convenient excuse to let us travel in time back to old content – either literally or as faithfully recreated simulations, either is fine to me.
By the end of this series I want to see everything ever released playable in the same client, preserved in a single (enormous!) download that represents the cumulative sum of everything they've ever learned in tandem with the players who love this series.
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The culture of "duping" in Borderlands is certainly something to be proud of.
Plus borderlands doesn't have PvP. So you have no where to bring the cool guns you get. Borderlands 3 looks great, I'll be playing if, but it won't be a thing I'll be playing for 4 years
Who said anything about duping or PvP? The loot is fine in Borderlands without duping, IMO. No one relies on guns from duping. And literally nothing in my posts said anything about PvP.
People are just giving opinions on what they would like in the next Destiny. Why are you stalking my posts like I am attacking you personally, and your making assumptions and putting words in my mouth? If you like Destiny as-is that's fine, no one is attacking that or saying Destiny sucks.
On a straight gameplay aspect:
- Allow players to tap in more to the power of the Light, instead of just waiting for a yellow bar to fill up. The mini abilities fleshed out with Foresaken DLC, was a step in the right direction but felt very limited as they were locked to specific skill trees and there wasn't enough of them and they weren't really powerful.
- Unify the Skill tree on Classes. Why do I have to open up the main menu to change to different Ults? If there is 2 or 3 Ultimates available for the Hunter Nightstalker class (Void Legolas Bow, Black Hole Bow, Spectral Blades), allow us to access them in real time with out having to pop up a menu in-game and leave myself plain open to attack for 12 seconds. Full access to our class abilities on-the-fly needs to become the standard.
- Can we get Akimbo guns?. More Melee-centric weapons such Lighting / Void Whips, etc
- Expand and flesh out melee attacks. Let us throw objects in our environment at enemies. Like cars or trucks at them during combat. Allow us to do a chokehold in Stealth if we want to clear out enemy camps silently. Or silently slit enemy throats with our melee knifes, etc. Than just the usual guns blazing approach.
- Embrace RPG elements. Flesh out character customization with meaningful additions. Give more body, hair and face customization options for our Guardians, let us physically mod our Weapons with meaningful parts, Armor enhancements that expand the physical gameplay aspect (not just boost our guns)
- Give us the ability to manually control our ships in an open world and go to space with them. It's time for Destiy to level up on this aspect. Our ships mainly serve to get us automatically from point A to B and we don't even know how they look like on the inside. Give us full control of them and allow us to explore planets and space manually with them.
- Allow players to tap in more to the power of the Light, instead of just waiting for a yellow bar to fill up. The mini abilities fleshed out with Foresaken DLC, was a step in the right direction but felt very limited as they were locked to specific skill trees and there wasn't enough of them and they weren't really powerful.
- Unify the Skill tree on Classes. Why do I have to open up the main menu to change to different Ults? If there is 2 or 3 Ultimates available for the Hunter Nightstalker class (Void Legolas Bow, Black Hole Bow, Spectral Blades), allow us to access them in real time with out having to pop up a menu in-game and leave myself plain open to attack for 12 seconds. Full access to our class abilities on-the-fly needs to become the standard.
- Can we get Akimbo guns?. More Melee-centric weapons such Lighting / Void Whips, etc
- Expand and flesh out melee attacks. Let us throw objects in our environment at enemies. Like cars or trucks at them during combat. Allow us to do a chokehold in Stealth if we want to clear out enemy camps silently. Or silently slit enemy throats with our melee knifes, etc. Than just the usual guns blazing approach.
- Embrace RPG elements. Flesh out character customization with meaningful additions. Give more body, hair and face customization options for our Guardians, let us physically mod our Weapons with meaningful parts, Armor enhancements that expand the physical gameplay aspect (not just boost our guns)
- Give us the ability to manually control our ships in an open world and go to space with them. It's time for Destiy to level up on this aspect. Our ships mainly serve to get us automatically from point A to B and we don't even know how they look like on the inside. Give us full control of them and allow us to explore planets and space manually with them.
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I'm not sure how I feel about controllable ships and having to actually fly to planets (I'd want it to be a minigame at most, not something you actually spend several minutes doing, like a space sim) and I'm hesitant to say yes to automatic raid matchmaking because I don't trust them not to let that affect their raid design, but otherwise this sums up my thoughts and wishes for the game exactly.
The only things I'd add to the list are
Delete Eververse forever.Add more cosmetics (including shaders, emotes, ships, sparrows, ghost shells, and ornaments) that can be earned from triumphs and activities rather than just sticking 98% of the cosmetics into Eververse.- Take a page from Anthem (I know, but hear me out) on the character visual customization. That system of being able to pick colors (using a color picker!) and materials for each individual part of my armor and have my armor appearance be separate from my stats is exactly what I've wanted from Destiny all along, not the janky shader system that never quite applies the way I want and never quite has the color combo I want.
Also, maybe weird, but I kinda want them to put out one more game that's "Destiny: Subtitle" instead of "Destiny 3" (since "Destiny" is taken) that is the one to bring all the content from Destiny 1 and 2 together, and then have that one be the one they update for the lifetime of the IP, rather than Destiny 2, just because having the number on the end bothers me. "Destiny" really should have been one 10-year game to begin with, MMO-style, instead of broken up into multiple games. :/
Yikes, the leaks suggest the game will become significantly tougher, go make some friends. You have time still.
Raids that actually have multiple bosses and focus on shooting.
Vault of glass was perfect.
D2 first raid was a load of shit with stupid mechanics for the sake of mechanics. It simply wasn't fun.
Vault of glass was perfect.
D2 first raid was a load of shit with stupid mechanics for the sake of mechanics. It simply wasn't fun.
I stopped playing after I finished the Forsaken content and got to 600 power.
I like to play it for the story missions and strikes. I've never had a raid. I don't do too many exotic gear quests.
I might jump back in if they add like Space ship combat and traversal. Instead of a loading screen, have me fly around space and planets. I want agency over the ship.
I like to play it for the story missions and strikes. I've never had a raid. I don't do too many exotic gear quests.
I might jump back in if they add like Space ship combat and traversal. Instead of a loading screen, have me fly around space and planets. I want agency over the ship.
Shared/open world with interplanetary travel (having your ship be more than a cosmetic would be awesome)
Less FOMO type quests or events.
Stop designing the game around "pro" players and people who can play for 8+ hours a day. When you're lucky enough to play a few hours a week, the sheer amount of busywork/filler is overwhelming.
Reduce RNG. I get that it's the nature of the beast, but at least let us pick weapon or armor rewards, a la D1.
A greater sense of exploration with more things/NPC's to interact with.
No blind boxes in Eververse. Or at least give people the option of buying whatever they want directly.
Endgame content designed for the solo player. Rewards don't have to be as powerful as raids, but give people the option at least.
There's a lot more. And I don't expect any positive changes to come for D3. The gameplay itself is so satisfying, but the loop leaves me feeling so cynical.
Less FOMO type quests or events.
Stop designing the game around "pro" players and people who can play for 8+ hours a day. When you're lucky enough to play a few hours a week, the sheer amount of busywork/filler is overwhelming.
Reduce RNG. I get that it's the nature of the beast, but at least let us pick weapon or armor rewards, a la D1.
A greater sense of exploration with more things/NPC's to interact with.
No blind boxes in Eververse. Or at least give people the option of buying whatever they want directly.
Endgame content designed for the solo player. Rewards don't have to be as powerful as raids, but give people the option at least.
There's a lot more. And I don't expect any positive changes to come for D3. The gameplay itself is so satisfying, but the loop leaves me feeling so cynical.
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Totally agree. I'm not really a multiplayer person but I do strikes with randos
Would like to try a raid but they seem so complicated to do with strangers
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Agree with all of this
In terms of adding content going forward keep going in same way?
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It's not about friends. Some of us just prefer playing alone :)
Although I wish I could play with my other half who I live with without having to buy another PS4 and tv
This and.
+ Re-use assets better than they have been (why do you keep reskinning the SAME GUNS?) Why are so many great assets from D1 and D2-Year laid to waste?
+ Aiming and speed of D1 from now on.
+ Big Team Battle maps..
I want them to drop the attitude that grinding is a substitute for content. They also need to stop taking the content they do have away if you don't grind it out in the short space of time that they give you.
Get it right the first time!
My biggest concern regarding the future of Destiny is Bungie attempting to re-invent the wheel for a third time. It's been nearly 5 years since Destiny began and in that time Bungie has struggled to properly define what type of game/experience Destiny is. The game is in a fantastic place at the moment no doubt however, the journey here has had a LOT of ups and downs.
Vanilla D1 was a boring, repetitive grindfest with an absolutely pathetic excuse of a story. The game was held up and saved by the production values, the gameplay, the Vault of Glass Raid and Trials of Osiris PvP. Taken King came and basically wiped the slate clean by introducing a new leveling and infusion system but cast aside all Y1 weapons and armour rendering them obsolete. Bungie was trying to fix the train while it was running full steam ahead and credit where credit is due they did a pretty admirable job of responding to a lot of the community's feedback and criticism but there were significant growing pains along the way. Rise of Iron was another solid piece of content and we got some more QoL updates throughout Y3 as well as the Age of Triumph that brought back/up the old Raids with new challenges, weapons, armour and additional content so by the end the game was in a good spot.
I remember being super excited for the reveal event of D2 and even more so for the Beta.
However, ultimately Y1 of D2 was incredibly frustrating as after the game launched we all realized how shallow, hallow and lacking the game felt. They removed SO many features in the pursuit of accessibility that they almost completely alienated and ostracized the hardcore veteran fans that stuck around throughout D1 and all it's mishaps. Yes, the story was better, it looked better and sounded better but Bungie clearly made some very controversial and drastic changes to the formula to cater to a far more casual audience. They wanted the game to be easier and more accessible which is admirable no doubt, it's just how far they went and what they sacrificed to do it and how those changes nearly killed the series... again.
Myself and a LOT of my friends grew increasingly tired of watching Bungie flounder around in ignorance, incompetence and ineptitude rebooting, recycling and removing content and features trying to 'fix' the game and get it back to where in should have been all along. Their lack of communication skills for a studio of their size, scope and experience was truly baffling. I know a fair amount of people that just don't have the time, the patience or the tolerance to deal with Bungie anymore. They stopped playing Destiny around the time of Curse of Osiris or Warmind and they're not coming back.
Which leads me to reiterate how CRITICALLY and IMPERATIVELY important it is for Bungie to get things right the first time with Destiny 3. Because I honestly doubt the franchise and the community can withstand another botched launch that takes them 6-12 months to 'fix'. If it happens a third time... the community with tear them to shreds and then evaporate.
I Personally I have no problems with them starting semi-fresh again with Destiny 3 ***(it's the QoL updates, fixes and features that I believe NEED to be carried forward)*** I could care less about the actual content being carried forward (locations, strikes, raids, weapons, armour, exotics, triumphs etc...). Seals are another story.
Anyway, GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! Bungie!!! No more reboots a year before the game's supposed to come out, no more launching the game with half the QoL fixes and features missing without explanation, no more dumbing the game down and compressing the skill gaps (looking at you bloom and ghost bullets), to appeal to a casual audience where 50% of them won't even finish the game or trade it in for the next Call of Duty or go back to Fortnite.
Worry about the audience you have not the one you don't.
Apologies for the rant. I just want people to enjoy the game and to see it reach it's true potential.
My biggest concern regarding the future of Destiny is Bungie attempting to re-invent the wheel for a third time. It's been nearly 5 years since Destiny began and in that time Bungie has struggled to properly define what type of game/experience Destiny is. The game is in a fantastic place at the moment no doubt however, the journey here has had a LOT of ups and downs.
Vanilla D1 was a boring, repetitive grindfest with an absolutely pathetic excuse of a story. The game was held up and saved by the production values, the gameplay, the Vault of Glass Raid and Trials of Osiris PvP. Taken King came and basically wiped the slate clean by introducing a new leveling and infusion system but cast aside all Y1 weapons and armour rendering them obsolete. Bungie was trying to fix the train while it was running full steam ahead and credit where credit is due they did a pretty admirable job of responding to a lot of the community's feedback and criticism but there were significant growing pains along the way. Rise of Iron was another solid piece of content and we got some more QoL updates throughout Y3 as well as the Age of Triumph that brought back/up the old Raids with new challenges, weapons, armour and additional content so by the end the game was in a good spot.
I remember being super excited for the reveal event of D2 and even more so for the Beta.
However, ultimately Y1 of D2 was incredibly frustrating as after the game launched we all realized how shallow, hallow and lacking the game felt. They removed SO many features in the pursuit of accessibility that they almost completely alienated and ostracized the hardcore veteran fans that stuck around throughout D1 and all it's mishaps. Yes, the story was better, it looked better and sounded better but Bungie clearly made some very controversial and drastic changes to the formula to cater to a far more casual audience. They wanted the game to be easier and more accessible which is admirable no doubt, it's just how far they went and what they sacrificed to do it and how those changes nearly killed the series... again.
Myself and a LOT of my friends grew increasingly tired of watching Bungie flounder around in ignorance, incompetence and ineptitude rebooting, recycling and removing content and features trying to 'fix' the game and get it back to where in should have been all along. Their lack of communication skills for a studio of their size, scope and experience was truly baffling. I know a fair amount of people that just don't have the time, the patience or the tolerance to deal with Bungie anymore. They stopped playing Destiny around the time of Curse of Osiris or Warmind and they're not coming back.
Which leads me to reiterate how CRITICALLY and IMPERATIVELY important it is for Bungie to get things right the first time with Destiny 3. Because I honestly doubt the franchise and the community can withstand another botched launch that takes them 6-12 months to 'fix'. If it happens a third time... the community with tear them to shreds and then evaporate.
I Personally I have no problems with them starting semi-fresh again with Destiny 3 ***(it's the QoL updates, fixes and features that I believe NEED to be carried forward)*** I could care less about the actual content being carried forward (locations, strikes, raids, weapons, armour, exotics, triumphs etc...). Seals are another story.
Anyway, GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! Bungie!!! No more reboots a year before the game's supposed to come out, no more launching the game with half the QoL fixes and features missing without explanation, no more dumbing the game down and compressing the skill gaps (looking at you bloom and ghost bullets), to appeal to a casual audience where 50% of them won't even finish the game or trade it in for the next Call of Duty or go back to Fortnite.
Worry about the audience you have not the one you don't.
Apologies for the rant. I just want people to enjoy the game and to see it reach it's true potential.
Yup, all great points IMHO.
I know it's insane and will take a lot of man power and money but I somehow want all of Destiny 1 in the next game. I would do anything just to explore the cosmodrome again.
Now for something more realistic, this game needs more matchmaking and more matchmaking options. After playing The Division, there's no reason Destiny shouldn't have matchmaking for something as basic as story missions and patrols. It's not some mind blowing thing but when The Division gave me the option to select the difficulty or if I wanted to matchmake, I really appreciated that.
I should be able to set my game to open and people should just join. This shit works so well in Division. I played the Pre Sequel this past weekend with about 6 different sets of people and all I did was set my game to public and that was a blast. Though I think Destiny has this, I'm not sure.
Lastly the LFG on the app should be in game in addition to the app. Blind matchmaking for Raids wouldn't work but I should be able to try to find some people to play it while I'm in the game.
Bungie just needs to make it easier for people to group up and for the love of God please include a compass in this game and the map needs to be better. Maybe let us put down waypoints. I don't need to be opening a map every time to see if I've sparrowed past a Lost Sector I needed.
Now for something more realistic, this game needs more matchmaking and more matchmaking options. After playing The Division, there's no reason Destiny shouldn't have matchmaking for something as basic as story missions and patrols. It's not some mind blowing thing but when The Division gave me the option to select the difficulty or if I wanted to matchmake, I really appreciated that.
I should be able to set my game to open and people should just join. This shit works so well in Division. I played the Pre Sequel this past weekend with about 6 different sets of people and all I did was set my game to public and that was a blast. Though I think Destiny has this, I'm not sure.
Lastly the LFG on the app should be in game in addition to the app. Blind matchmaking for Raids wouldn't work but I should be able to try to find some people to play it while I'm in the game.
Bungie just needs to make it easier for people to group up and for the love of God please include a compass in this game and the map needs to be better. Maybe let us put down waypoints. I don't need to be opening a map every time to see if I've sparrowed past a Lost Sector I needed.
Whoa whoa whoa. First you steal our Blink, then our QuickDraw, then you steal the Titans Twilight Garrison air dodge, and now you want our Triple Jump? Nah fam. You Warlocks have it real good. Just stay right there with your little pew pew pew familiar and keep your mitts off our abilities.
I think they need to really lean into the "looter" part of the looter/shooter. This carries with it making the game more complex. I have been playing Division 2 (not that it is super crazy complex), but there is a lot of latitude with your build...what you are modding, what you are focusing on. Destiny (even the orginal) never had anything close to this.
Not that Destiny needs to be path of exile, but they definitely need to lean in on the RPG side of things. (How they do that with pvp is their problem). The foundation of the shooting mechanics is easily the best on consoles. With just some smarter design choices, they can really make Destiny 3 something marvelous.
And for effsakes, do NOT waste player time or pad just for the fuck of it. Division 2 is a pitch perfect example of how to do this properly...A gentle power curve that only slows down towards the very top of the curve...and still there are no weekly time gates (these are probably here to stay). Hitting the "power" cap takes about 75-100 hours. This is more than adquate. Plus, the lateral build opportunities take over from there for many many more hours. I always logged off of Division 2 happy I played and with the progression I made. Destiny 2...I often was frustrated....
Im anxiously awaiting Destiny 3, but I hope they take their time. Give it focus. This will likely be their last crack at it before they move onto something else.
Not that Destiny needs to be path of exile, but they definitely need to lean in on the RPG side of things. (How they do that with pvp is their problem). The foundation of the shooting mechanics is easily the best on consoles. With just some smarter design choices, they can really make Destiny 3 something marvelous.
And for effsakes, do NOT waste player time or pad just for the fuck of it. Division 2 is a pitch perfect example of how to do this properly...A gentle power curve that only slows down towards the very top of the curve...and still there are no weekly time gates (these are probably here to stay). Hitting the "power" cap takes about 75-100 hours. This is more than adquate. Plus, the lateral build opportunities take over from there for many many more hours. I always logged off of Division 2 happy I played and with the progression I made. Destiny 2...I often was frustrated....
Im anxiously awaiting Destiny 3, but I hope they take their time. Give it focus. This will likely be their last crack at it before they move onto something else.
I'd like them to throw PVP balancing out the window and let weapons be handheld gods of destruction. if they want to do PVP make specific loadouts just for PVP so they're only balancing a few weapons or balancing be damned and make power matter. the PVE stuff kills the PVP and the PVP stuff holds the PVE back. if they're concerned about weapons in PVE being the must have meta then re-think weapon design. no one likes dupes so have deeper stat pools and variants. Fucking be an RPG. Have drop tables, don't have weekly lockouts of activity rewards, and stop power creep and give more lateral progression. deepen player builds so you want to find weapons and armor for playstyles instead of everything kinda being good for everyone. Let me have an exotic in every slot too. They've struggled trying to be an action FPS and an action RPG that they've fallen into the not super great at either category and it sucks. For the most part the weapons and abilities feel great but our characters could be more awesome and i don't understand why they're holding us back.
I've spent over 2000 hours into the series and i've had unforgettable moments in both PVP and PVE but i haven't touched D2 in months it feels like.
I've spent over 2000 hours into the series and i've had unforgettable moments in both PVP and PVE but i haven't touched D2 in months it feels like.
Honestly, I don't think I want a D3.
D2 is in a really good spot right now, it needs a few fixes here and there (Seriously, a vendor refresh every season should be mandatory) but overall the game is solid.
Just keep building onto that base, keep adding fresh content, maybe release a Taken King/Forsaken quality expansion every other year and I can see myself playing D2 for another 2 or 3 years easy.
D2 is in a really good spot right now, it needs a few fixes here and there (Seriously, a vendor refresh every season should be mandatory) but overall the game is solid.
Just keep building onto that base, keep adding fresh content, maybe release a Taken King/Forsaken quality expansion every other year and I can see myself playing D2 for another 2 or 3 years easy.
Nah, we need a better scaffolding going into the next gen, D2 at its current state game wise is graat, structurally, its held back by the limitations of the engine and consoles. Weapon systems need an overhaul, do t want to have to pause games to switch sub class abilities.