Eh, doesn't really matter to me unless the servers are completely dead. Will Xbox and PS4 ever have crossplay?
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Destiny 2 on Stadia will not have crossplay with other platforms (Update: Bungie Responds)
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What about Xbox Live Gold and PS Plus for multiplayer? Currently, you can't do matchmade activities or play with friends without those subscriptions (but you can play campaign and do free roam). Will that change in the fall?
There are literally billions of potential gamers that would love to play something like destiny 2 but can't afford a $500 PC or console. Compare that to the PS4 install base..lol it's a joke.
Once Stadia goes International it will literally have 10-20x more players on every f2p game than any other platform.
Bungie's Response
I mean, maybe, if the interest and buzz is there. I think Destiny is a fantastic game and will be one of the highest quality free-to-play games to date when it launches in September. I too think people are underestimating how popular Stadia Base and Destiny 2: New Light could be. Hardcore Destiny players will be there for the convenience, and you can't have a much lower barrier to entry than free streaming of a free game that runs on dated laptops, PCs, phones, and TV sticks. And it's not like someone with a beefy PC couldn't just log onto the Stadia Base version if they wanted to play with friends who don't have a capable PC. It's the lowest common denominator the game needs to bring the most people together until cross play is implemented.
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I'm confused, are they saying they're choosing to not do it then? That's an odd choice.
edit: I guess he means there's nothing on Google's end preventing them.
Everyone able to be playing together, nice. The way it ought to be.
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I take it as they are still interested in cross play but it is something that will really look into it after cross save has been implemented (so sometime next year hopefully)
Wait so then cross save is their priority right now and cross play with Stadia isn't an impossibility but they want to just focus on cross save with platforms at the moment. Did I understand that right?
He's saying they don't have the bandwidth for it now, but it's on their radar.
Seems like more work to build an isolated solution and then come back later to make it work with other platforms.
My problem isn't that Stadia doesn't support/have cross-play, they obviously do, its that the game they're partnering with for launch (to the point that the full collection is included in the founders edition) is a multiplayer game that doesn't have cross-play when its obvious the lack of cross-play will hurt the title.
Sure, you could just play Destiny on Stadia as a side thing to playing it on PC/Console (as in do the stuff that doesn't really need other players), but that defeats the purpose of the service, which is a replacement to those other platforms. Think finding an active Blind Well is hard now, finding one on Stadia will be near impossible. And that's the problem. Stadia at launch won't have a playerbase for Destiny that rivals that of any of the other platforms which means doing activities that rely on matchmaking will take longer or suffer in some way.
Destiny on Stadia as it stands right now is not a way to play the game that replaces playing it on other platforms, instead its a way to play the game in tandem with other platforms. Cross-play with even just one other platform would solve this issue but I just don't think Stadia will have the playerbase to support this game for very long without cross-play and that's a problem.
Destiny 2 will have a 1:1 attachment rate for Stadia. The question will be how many units of the founders edition are sold.
Hopefully they're just hedging with this 'focusing on cross-save this year' talk and they're actually working to ship cross-play ASAP.
lmao are you serious with this nonsense
by your logic, the TVs/laptops/smartphones Stadia users will use should count towards the cost of playing Destiny as well.
Internet/cell plan won't be free either. Power isn't free. Might as well count your rent too.
PS+ isn't needed for free to play games, but with Forsaken not being free I'm not sure how that will work exactly.
People already own TVs/laptops/smartphones. They buy a console or graphics card-equipped PC for one reason: gaming.
You're removing a $500 barrier to entry.
There are hundreds of millions of people in places like India that own a smartphone but do not own console (many of them don't even own a TV). In 3-5 years when those people have access to Stadia, what do you think they're going to do?
PUBG has 400 million mobile players. Again, compare that to the PS4 install base. It's a joke.
There are 7 billion people on the planet. About half of them have a PC or a smartphone. But there are only 150M current gen consoles.
People are only thinking about their own privileged corner of the world. Maybe it isn't Stadia. Maybe it's a free version of xCloud, or some other cloud gaming solution from Alibaba or some other company. But that is the way the majority of the world will play free-to-play games.
Honestly? Not use Stadia because Google will have killed it by then.
Well you seem to think anyone with a smartphone will be privileged enough to have a generous enough data plan to take advantage of Stadia.
Many won't.
Are you talking about same Google that has one of the best 'service life' records in the industry? The Google that kept Google+ alive years after it was ever going to be successful.
People already have these things for other reasons. Someone who never played games before could theoretically jump into Destiny 2: New Light on Stadia Base without purchasing anything they didn't already have, even if they don't typically play video games.
I was looking forward to checking out Stadia in my home but man that £119 founder's edition just got a whole lot less appealing. I think many of us assumed Stadia was effectively running PC versions and therefore would in most cases be able to play with other PC folk.
Cross-play will probably come with next gen consoles. They have plans to massively upgrade console performance and visuals when PS5/Xwhatever drop.
Exactly this. Further, the assumption Stadia makes is that players of primarily f2p games on mobile would be playing traditional AAA if they were able to, but considering the greater-than-expected performance of the current console generation I am not sure that is a worthy leap to take. My take is that the amount of people really interested in sinking time into Destiny 2 already own something that will play it; I don't anticipate a massive boost to their active player base even once Stadia Base is out.
I always thought that Stadia was its own "console", but maybe I'm in the minority. I don't think they ever gave the impression that they were running PC games.
All he is saying is baby steps, cross play will come but they have a lot on their plate, let them get cross save off the ground first before crossplay becomes a thing
The biggest issue with this isn't that cross play isn't a thing (it's its own platform after all), but that if you buy the Founders Edition of Stadia, you lose access to Destiny 2 as soon as you stop paying for Stadia Pro.
The way it's worded in ads is that you'll "own" D2, but instead it's being bundled as part of the PS+ like subscription. As soon as I heard that I was out. Disappointing.
The way it's worded in ads is that you'll "own" D2, but instead it's being bundled as part of the PS+ like subscription. As soon as I heard that I was out. Disappointing.
I'm kind of glad I'm not into online multi-player, because I imagine this has to be really discouraging to anyone who wants any given online multi-player game to thrive for years with a decent-sized community. Developers/publishers who support cross-platform multi-player really need to start shutting out platforms that refuse to allow cross-play, and developers/publishers working on live/online games really need to be more interested in the idea of cross-play if they want their products to have legs.
Well bungie had cross save ready to be shipped before destiny 2 came out but couldnt cause of Activision. Now that they split, they are doing one at a time starting with cross save
Crossplay is coming, destiny free to play is coming, the community will be getting a shot in the arm come September.
They have limited resources and refuse to crunch their employees so this shit takes time
Yeah... and this people will surely have a fast, lag-free, unlimited internet connection and the money for a Stadia abo?
This gets me more worried for Borderlands 3 than Destiny. I'm really hoping Gearbox announces some form of cross-play prior to the Stadia launch. I was planning on checking it out there, but if there is no cross-play that will kill the game. At least with Destiny, everyone on Stadia will own it. With Borderlands, it's going to be an even smaller community.
I think people forget there's a large number of people out there who are either lapsed gamers, or the barrier to entry was always too great for them to jump in, and Stadia will be a great solution for those people.
Perhaps they've heard someone talk about a certain game a lot, and are interested, but not interested enough to buy a $400+ console.
Perhaps they've heard someone talk about a certain game a lot, and are interested, but not interested enough to buy a $400+ console.
Understandable, but wasn't Destiny 2 the game for which cross-play was "accidentally" enabled for a short period a long time ago?Crossplay is coming, destiny free to play is coming, the community will be getting a shot in the arm come September.
They have limited resources and refuse to crunch their employees so this shit takes time
EDIT: Nope. It was Fortnite.
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I mean it's free to play and the service is free to use? So there's seriously no trouble in playing it.
That's the whole thing about Stadia though. It's a subscription service, so stop paying and you lose access.
Nope, you can also buy full games as well. The way it was phrased in the reveal is that D2 was going to be one of those 'owned' games - the fact they're bundling it into the subscription and counting it as "EXTRA VALUE!!!" in the marketing is some serious BS