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Destiny 2: Forsaken |OT3| All Right, All Right, All Right.
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Breakneck
Jotunn
Hammerhead
I definitely recommend grinding those gun shots out when you can. Especially Jotunn!
Don't have it yet, but having been on the other end of it countless times I can attest to how well Jotunn destroys.
MGs have had their damage nerfed against bosses & minibosses by 21%, but they're still pretty reliable imo. I see them all the time.
Honestly right now it seems a bunch of people are working Lord of Wolves into their loadout with the recent shotgun dmg buffs, so if you have that I'd give it a whirl.
Personally I use Breakneck or shotty in Kinetic, Le Monarque in Energy, and Hammerhead as my standard loadout and seem to do fine.
Devouring Soul is a new perk that basically makes it as strong as D1 Y1 Thorn. You kill an enemy and pick up a green orb that gives you a 10 second damage buff.
Without that perk, it's okay.
Oh goodie another insanely overpowered hand cannon to get jarred the f out of by and kill you before you even have a chance to see what's hitting you!
Oh and I bet the recluse is SUPER FUN too.
The hits just keep on coming.
Good thing pulse rifles have a four minute time to kill! Totally balanced! And it's not like hand cannons can kill you from Alaska or anything! Oh wait.
Edit: At least Drewsky says he doesn't think it will replace Luna/NF. So that's somewhat relieving. Time will tell though.
Oh and I bet the recluse is SUPER FUN too.
The hits just keep on coming.
Good thing pulse rifles have a four minute time to kill! Totally balanced! And it's not like hand cannons can kill you from Alaska or anything! Oh wait.
Edit: At least Drewsky says he doesn't think it will replace Luna/NF. So that's somewhat relieving. Time will tell though.
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Whats the point of all this +1 gambit prime armor really? I guess you can mix and match sets for one?
I'm at the point where I converted my synth to blue, but I'm still 667, not high enough (well, sure not with randos) to do tier 2 reckoning.
I dunno, the +1 and really +2 armor seems a bit pointless no? Shouldn't we just save (synths) and wait for +3?
I'm at the point where I converted my synth to blue, but I'm still 667, not high enough (well, sure not with randos) to do tier 2 reckoning.
I dunno, the +1 and really +2 armor seems a bit pointless no? Shouldn't we just save (synths) and wait for +3?
None of these hand cannons can really compete on console outside of the 180 RPM. Every other archetype has to shot pace while 180's don't, which reduces TTK--and that's before taking into consideration magnificent howl.
On PC--much stronger, but Ace and NF have the range by a ways.
Still a cool gun, but particularly on console bungie needs to address the hand cannon RPM issue. Probably should address the Not Forgotten/Lunas Howl issue at this point too but that's another topic.
On PC--much stronger, but Ace and NF have the range by a ways.
Still a cool gun, but particularly on console bungie needs to address the hand cannon RPM issue. Probably should address the Not Forgotten/Lunas Howl issue at this point too but that's another topic.
Jotunn is probably my favorite gun in the game, simply because of how effective it is to use AND how fun it is to just launch fireballs at people lol. I highly recommend it
Why? Because they need to be STRONGER?
Literally the only guns that exist in crucible are hand cannons and specials. Even Bygones barely makes the top 5 in kinetic slot anymore and it's falling back slowly.
Edit if by "address" you mean nerf Luna/NF and strengthen the other archetypes, ok, that sounds fine.
Yep. Powerful frames, and you have to complete a Forge ignition at Bergusia.
Thorn is a skilled weapon, just like TLW. You have to use the perks to make most of it. But at base it's average.
Good to know thanks! Best get my alt up to speed for extra tries
The only 'issue' with Not Forgotten and Luna's Howl is that they have a damage-increase perk that doesn't require a kill to activate. So it's not really an issue with them as it is a lack of competition.
Rather than nerfing those guns, which are both fun to use and require skill to acquire, they'd be better off introducing more similarly effective perks, and buffing the ones that exist.
Take headseeker for example. Useless perk. Change it so that the damage boost is a) bigger and b) carries over into subsequent bursts, and suddenly you have a pulse rifle that is similarly deadly and doesn't require the kill to get the benefit.
Huckleberry, Loaded Question, Crooked Fang 4FR. Only use heavy for invaders/invasions. Typically no need for it with a skull helmet + nova bomb anyway.
I'd rebalance 180's. They should have worst in class body shot TTK, and require 3 crit 1 body for optimal time to kill rather than 2 crit 2 body. Allow magnificent howl to still 3 tap and keep the .67 ttk (best in class), but cut the magnificent howl window by just a tad, reducing the likelihood of opening an engagement with the shot in order to two tap.
By doing this, the weapons become more risk/reward. If you miss a 3 tap as is, the ttk is still very solid compared to all other weapons, so its no big deal. With this change you're severely behind the eight ball if you don't hit optimal TTK, allowing many other weapons to close the gap.
Yea, those perks need help. The thing is headseeker and fate of all fools only ever exist to help with forgiveness, making it easier to acquire optimal ttk without landing the required crits. But even at OPTIMAL ttk, the guns are still behind. The only way to truly improve ttk with those perks is to make it so a one burst/tap followed by a crit would result in an optimal ttk, but that'd be weird...like, purposefully be less accurate and be rewarded with the guns best ttk.
Bungie's way of dealing with it has been to make it easier to obtain the weapons in comp. We'll see if it works. Will probably make it so average pvp'ers run into more not forgottens and get super dunked on. Meanwhile good but not great players get a more even playing field.
I can see it having issues on console, but it will be amazing on PC.
Surrounded Threat Level, Curated Age Old Bond, and 1 Thousand Voices. That seems to let me help in most roles as needed.
Yes.
I've been out of the loop for a year and am early into Forsaken
My only question is why did they change infusion?
My only question is why did they change infusion?
people wanted grindy destiny back and bungie overcompensated.
I sided with the Vanguard because I couldn't imagine betraying them after everything that's happened over two games, but...
Man, this narc quest is making me feel lame.
LOL at kids who are terrible at crucible already running around with Thorn.
You have thorn, and you're a potato.
I'm doing my void kills with Inaugural Address. Damn that gun is still good. This is why I say Destiny gun stats lie. IIRC there is nothing in the stats of that gun to say why it's so good, but it just is. It's not like it has way more stability than other 390 RPM pulses or anything at all to make it stand out (of course I'm not counting kill clip).
Going slow though, only 15%. May have to use a void HC.
You have thorn, and you're a potato.
I'm doing my void kills with Inaugural Address. Damn that gun is still good. This is why I say Destiny gun stats lie. IIRC there is nothing in the stats of that gun to say why it's so good, but it just is. It's not like it has way more stability than other 390 RPM pulses or anything at all to make it stand out (of course I'm not counting kill clip).
Going slow though, only 15%. May have to use a void HC.
What sucks is due to Bungie's glacial pace, we aren't gonna see a nerf to it for a long long time, whenever the next sandbox update hits in forever. Just have to live with that crap.
It's points and you get different amount of points based on how you do. Void HC streaks give the most progress so whip out your Kindled Orchid.
No kindled sadly but I have ikelos and I think I might have the trials one from y1 not sure. But ikelos will do.
I'll wait until whenever I've got a team to try, especially with comp being worth more. No rush.
You need to beat the reckoning which will then trigger the quest where you make a choice. Good luck getting that done with randoms....
I couldn't agree more. I picked up Forsaken on Sunday, and I would hate to know how many hours I have put into the game since then. It's a shame Division is coming out Friday as that will take up most of my free time.
I got void, I've been using it because I'm still to unlock sleeper due to only coming back a few weeks ago.
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