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DeSantis' Anti-Sex/Anti-Race education message is winning in battleground states, teacher union poll finds
- Thread starter Teusery
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Any Republican president is part of the immediate end of Democracy. Every candidate is a bloodthirsty fascist dictator. History will get what it wants, just a matter of when. Two years? Six?
survey sucks because yeah I'm dissatisfied with the way they teach about racism and sex, but not because they are teaching it.
Because they do a bad fucking job at it and sugarcoat the hell out of Americas worst atrocities.
even the follow up questions are vague to the point where you don't know if the respondent is for or against the subject.
Because they do a bad fucking job at it and sugarcoat the hell out of Americas worst atrocities.
even the follow up questions are vague to the point where you don't know if the respondent is for or against the subject.
Honestly, American Democracy is done for when the next conservative takes office. At this point we are just postponing the inevitable.
But does a guy like Romney or Pence end it if they got in the White House? I don't think so. I'd disagree with most of what they did but I'd never have the fear of democracy collapsing under those guys.
The problem is that the popular people in that group are the fascist/authoritarian people. It's what their voters want, sadly. It's not good enough that they can live their own lives--everyone else must live by their rules, too.
If someone made me bet if we'd see rigging of elections under DeSantis, it's a no-brainer. He's the type to absolutely do it.
Neither the Republican Party or its voters want a Romney or Pence. They want a mass murderer who will end the Republic. Nothing else will do.
One will never know and considering what I actually posted you're way off, allegedly though but you're a mind reader right.
I honestly don't understand how the Democrats keep getting caught in this same trap. CRT and Sex Ed are not being taught to schoolchildren, why are you not just saying that as opposed to getting into debates you can't win about the virtues of CRT and Sex Ed?
The GOP is writing bills to stop all accurate discussion of history and sexual identity in schools and are getting away with it because the Dems gave them a year head start to frame the issue instead of responding to it immediately. They do this every time, it's just how they got blown out in 2010. They ignored all the "death panel" fear mongering until it was too late.
The GOP is writing bills to stop all accurate discussion of history and sexual identity in schools and are getting away with it because the Dems gave them a year head start to frame the issue instead of responding to it immediately. They do this every time, it's just how they got blown out in 2010. They ignored all the "death panel" fear mongering until it was too late.
The shit thing is, the only people who will eventually make the world better are the kids we have.
They couldn't even response to a global financial crisis or swiftboat vets. republicans would've bombed them all day for 2008 and they let a draft dodger act like he was better than a real vet who went to war.
Well, when you say you're afraid to say something because it'll get you banned and then make vague allusions to how 'certain movements' have backfired because of their 'priorities' along with the context of this being about the assault on LGBT+ people in education, it's hard not to draw some lines. But feel free to stop the obfuscation and put me on the right track.
I also allued to my POC nature as well.
Don't need to draw some lines, considering how Desantis has used some issues against either can't really say the marketing or timing of some issues was good for people in those groups. Marriage and jobs a great start trying to integrate with hypcritical christians who hate you, don't need hindsight for that.
Obviously a generalization- but teachers are largely very conservative on topics like this even if they don't identify as conservative…. At least here in Florida
It's pretty much why me and my wife are going to adopt now honestly
What messaging though? You can't beat fear mongering. Period. Particularly since its so effective with Americans generally hate each ofher.
Voter Fraud is fake, but even if you carve out your 'fiscal republicans' you have 30% of the political establishment pushing it; I mean Giuliani had one of the worst nationally televised conferences ever and was dunked on for weeks but still, people believe.
Medicare, it feels that 'This is what you earned and your gonna need it to retire' vs 'The poors get a free ride' wins out because see my hateful Americans above.
BLM, well that's America's dirty secret, you run on anything pro-minority a large amount of Americans will vote 'no' just by default.
What would help is calling a spade a spade but America has made a national past time of getting called a bad person 'me, a raciat?' worse than the actual behavior of being bad. Its why Evangelicals have this sheen on them when reported as opposed to the civilization destroying ghouls that they are.
Okay?
When you talk about 'certain movements' without naming them, and all the 'priorities' they pushed that backfired without naming them, there is some need to draw lines because you're deliberately being coy. If you can't name and attack those groups and those priorities (while the added dash of 'don't get the pitchforks out, I'm on your team, honest') don't know what you expect anyone to assume except that you're referring to oppressed groups and how their 'messaging wasn't good enough' and they are at least partially to blame for this situation.
As I said, if you want to drop the coyness and correct me, by all means do so. If not, then your instinct to keep quiet probably was a good one.
I said it in another topic I wish the establishment and media were replaced, fat chance not actually expecting this.
It's not that you can't beat fear mongering but not fighting it or worse allowing false arguments helps no one.
100% with ya on voter fraud.
BLM is fine bad marking of police reform isn't and we got butchered for just bringing it up cause of the marketing of it.
Ending is nothing but a bullseye.
Considering who the person is in question I don't really need to name the main two. It's not all all priorities some should have been pushed considering they are american rights and necessary in order to exist like using a bathroom. I don't need to be coy on CRT, which krazen points out more of the problem on same for another topic that gets after the establishment a little.
Again krazen hits home with the problem besides messaging. Larry craig can hit up for sex in a bathroom stall and yet the lgbtq movement is coming to convert your kids, it's craven made up BS. They can have a speaker of the house get caught up in this BS yet they have no problem projecting to a fearful public the crap being mentioned and in which some of that public willingly eats it up it's not just evangelicals buying the koolaid from republicans. Post pizzagate and trumpism I've lost faith in parts that should be speaking up for us but aren't or worse when it's their turn are milquetoast or appeasers
There's nothing to correct though.
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Given how this pattern keeps repeating itself it's getting difficult to not feel like it's intentional. It's like the Democratic Republican party split and has just been playing the longest game of "good cop / bad cop" for the last 150 years.
I was just talking about this with someone this morning. It happens almost every election cycle around this point. Does anyone else remember back in 2006 when Giuliani was a lock for the 2008 nom? I don't even think he actually made it to the primary.
I remember the start of 2008 when everyone said Hillary was a fucking shoe-in and Obama should just quit early to save himself the embarrassment.
Or rapists. This is such an insane time in American history.
I am aware of these arguments and understandings. But you cannot expect such nuance from a 5 second question over the phone.