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Denis Villeneuve on casting BR2049: "I was wrong." Which actor do you think he's referring to?
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This thread has made me think about the various performances and I have to say that, in retrospect, I liked Ford's the least of all. (Once he was done attacking Gosling.) His performance just felt... hmm... okay, some performances were from the school of pretentious acting and some were actually good, but they both melded really well and the characters... fit the world. Even Bautista felt more a part of the world than Ford did! Ford just felt like he was playing himself or something. Whatever it was, I wasn't impressed by him.
I don't like Villeneuve doing this, by the way. He should have the balls to come out and say who it is, or not say anything like this. It's really unfair on people to be made to wonder if they were a poor fit. Just say who it is but do it without being a dick.
I fucking bet it ends up being one of the female actors...
I don't like Villeneuve doing this, by the way. He should have the balls to come out and say who it is, or not say anything like this. It's really unfair on people to be made to wonder if they were a poor fit. Just say who it is but do it without being a dick.
I fucking bet it ends up being one of the female actors...
Well, there's nothing wrong i guess, but it's still probably beyond the point and context of his answer. I don't think he should have these kinds of off base discussions in mind when giving his own personal experiences.
It would be unfair to the person who acted way more to come out and name them. It could impact their career. And it could be specific to his way of working with actors so other directors might not have that problem with said actor.
This is a very diplomatic way of doing things. I'm sure it wasn't a secret on set who he's talking about, so people who should know, know anyway. But since they are all professionals, these things don't leak out easily as no one wants to be implicated in spreading rumors or impacting careers.
His performances in TFA and 2049 were actually surprisingly decent compared to his previous work in the last decade (or two).
I remember everyone praising ford when tfa came out.... before cinemasins level discourse ruined talking about that movie.
Gosling was good, Ford was good for once lately (and he would not be a casting choice), Bautista was good, Ana de Armas was ok in a very inoffensive role, I don't remember much about the rest of the characters... yeah. It's Leto. He sticks out like a sore thumb (and not because he's a bad actor), and honestly sounds like the kind of guy whose director would have a hard time redirecting/rewriting to go in the direction he feels right.
I mean I get people accusing Ford of being disinterested in his later years but the kind of world weary, emotionally destroyed, apathetic performance in the film Totally fits his character. If nothing else, the "her eyes were green" scene alone is more memorable than anything Leto does the entire film. Leto's performance just oozes With the vibe that he thinks he's really tapped into something special here... yea not really
Well there are a lot to choose from.
the actor that played the cartoonishly evil and over the top villain? (when the original movie is masterful in not really having a straight villain)
was it shoehorning in Harrison Ford, the T-shirt wearing old man that's only there to add legitimacy to the movie, but retroactively fucks it?
Gosling who they thought would be perfect because Ford mumbles in the first movie, so why not get Hollywood's premiere mumbler of today?
the actor that played the cartoonishly evil and over the top villain? (when the original movie is masterful in not really having a straight villain)
was it shoehorning in Harrison Ford, the T-shirt wearing old man that's only there to add legitimacy to the movie, but retroactively fucks it?
Gosling who they thought would be perfect because Ford mumbles in the first movie, so why not get Hollywood's premiere mumbler of today?
Given he clearly notes "in the end it was okay" then emphasises how much he had to push my takeaway is he got close enough in the end that there's no point looking to film to guess who.
Ultimately his point is the actor really struggled to deliver what he wanted which he found tough to experience.
From other context it could be a Bautista as there clearly was challenges there around delivering what he wanted.
Or maybe he had to push Ford hard; but I doubt this as Ford was given if he wanted Deckard and there's little sign he wasn't happy reprising role or delivering performance.
unless he clarifies it's all guesses though.
EDIT: I'm confident it wasn't Gosling though; he's a good actor and he nailed the characteristics needed for the lead role to work. He's excellent in the film and there's zero indication of issues between them in terms of delivering that performance.
Ultimately his point is the actor really struggled to deliver what he wanted which he found tough to experience.
From other context it could be a Bautista as there clearly was challenges there around delivering what he wanted.
Or maybe he had to push Ford hard; but I doubt this as Ford was given if he wanted Deckard and there's little sign he wasn't happy reprising role or delivering performance.
unless he clarifies it's all guesses though.
EDIT: I'm confident it wasn't Gosling though; he's a good actor and he nailed the characteristics needed for the lead role to work. He's excellent in the film and there's zero indication of issues between them in terms of delivering that performance.
The shade being thrown at Gosling here is absolutely unacceptable. He is a treasure in this and every movie he is in.
Pretty much all the minor characters were note perfect. Ford was a little weak, but then his role was pretty weak. Leto did his best, which was fine, but couldn't quite sell the fey quality I think they were going for, so that's who I'd put my money on.
Gosling was good but with the lion's share of screen time there's more room for his deficiencies to show. Robin Wright was pretty sterile in her role, but I can't really imagine it was her, giving she's not really in a role that draws your attention in the first place.
Gosling was good but with the lion's share of screen time there's more room for his deficiencies to show. Robin Wright was pretty sterile in her role, but I can't really imagine it was her, giving she's not really in a role that draws your attention in the first place.
I'd place my bet on Leto whenever a director mentions he had a different take on a character. He acts the crap out of his character alright, but sometimes sticks out like a sore thumb.
I mean the dude can act, he was great in Requeim for a dream but is so hit and miss.
I mean the dude can act, he was great in Requeim for a dream but is so hit and miss.
Honestly I think I like Leto better then what I'm imagining a hypothetical Bowie performance to be, just because Bowie probably could have sold it and Leto kind of can't and that makes him a bit pathetic and actually makes the characterization more interesting
Some of the criticism feels like people seen 2 or 3 movies he was in and decided he's the same on every movie
He was thinking he should have cast Hulk Hogan instead.
It's definitely Leto. Haven't watched a single movie with him since Requiem that he doesn't come through as someone acting like a character rather than being the character. It this movie he's a caricature of an evil messianic figure, basically the interpretation of how an external viewer would see it. Problem is, of course, that no one self-conceptualizes as such.
Requiem probably only worked as well as it did because he was playing himself.
Requiem probably only worked as well as it did because he was playing himself.
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I don't know how anyone can think it wasn't Leto.
When you think of Bowie in his role, you can picture this ageless, angelic saviour of humanity with an inscrutable visage that leaves his opinion of humanity ambiguous.
Leto played it as a straightforward evil Zuckerberg with a saviour complex, which worked adequately but was totally lacking in nuance. I don't think it's what Denis had in his mind when he first read the screenplay. There's no doubt at all that his Wallace is an evil man whereas I think the original intention was for Wallace to be a more celestial figure who pities the sordid state of humanity. In a movie of ambiguous characterisations Leto's performance is painfully over the top.
When you think of Bowie in his role, you can picture this ageless, angelic saviour of humanity with an inscrutable visage that leaves his opinion of humanity ambiguous.
Leto played it as a straightforward evil Zuckerberg with a saviour complex, which worked adequately but was totally lacking in nuance. I don't think it's what Denis had in his mind when he first read the screenplay. There's no doubt at all that his Wallace is an evil man whereas I think the original intention was for Wallace to be a more celestial figure who pities the sordid state of humanity. In a movie of ambiguous characterisations Leto's performance is painfully over the top.
He at least picks better movies and plays characters that not just him in a movie
I like the rock but batista rules
Ford looked like he was drunk half the time, and he just waltzed around in his street clothes like he couldn't be asked to give even the slightest shit. My money is on him.
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Everyone saying Leto but....
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I thought Leto or Ford but when i think about it, Deckard's character feels like it was written with current Ford in mind and not the other way around.
It was kinda the most fitting role for him,deckard is bitter, tired, defeated and doesn't give a f about anything.
Maybe Ana de Armas? I liked her quite a bit but my opinion doesn't matter because there's no way to know what Dennis had planned/envisioned for whatever character he is talking about.
Mackenzie Davis and Robin Wright didn't have that much screentime but they were pretty good.
I kinda fell in love with Carla Juri in this movie so i hope it's not her, and Silvia Hoeks friggin' nailed it imo.
So my choices are Leto or Ana, but like i said, it doesn't matter because there's no way to know what Dennis wanted to begin with.
I will eat my shoes if it's Ryan,he was amazing imo.
It was kinda the most fitting role for him,deckard is bitter, tired, defeated and doesn't give a f about anything.
Maybe Ana de Armas? I liked her quite a bit but my opinion doesn't matter because there's no way to know what Dennis had planned/envisioned for whatever character he is talking about.
Mackenzie Davis and Robin Wright didn't have that much screentime but they were pretty good.
I kinda fell in love with Carla Juri in this movie so i hope it's not her, and Silvia Hoeks friggin' nailed it imo.
So my choices are Leto or Ana, but like i said, it doesn't matter because there's no way to know what Dennis wanted to begin with.
I will eat my shoes if it's Ryan,he was amazing imo.
I wouldn't cast Jesus in my movie, either.Everyone saying Leto but....
Blade Runner 2049 director compares Jared Leto to Jesus
When the dispatches out of the Blade Runner 2049 set remained focused on the actual movie and not some outsize shenanigans, we began to doubt Jared Leto’s commitment to method acting. Even though only he has a “small part” in Denis Villenueve’s sequel as Neander Wallace, the character seems to...
Funny enough I just rewatched this last night and my brother who hadn't seen it commented that all of Leto's scenes feel completely ad libbed like he just made it up as he went along. He would be my pick too but I'm not sure if that's who Denis is thinking of. Leto did his Leto thing so I'm not sure where the surprise would be, and Denis has praised him before as others in this thread pointed.
Just gonna play the odds and say it is Ana de Armas even though I thought she was great. A 50+ year old white male director had a problem with someone's performance, I'm just gonna assume it was the young woman.
Just gonna play the odds and say it is Ana de Armas even though I thought she was great. A 50+ year old white male director had a problem with someone's performance, I'm just gonna assume it was the young woman.
Maybe Villeneuve meant that he wanted to nail him to a cross and see him die.Everyone saying Leto but....
Blade Runner 2049 director compares Jared Leto to Jesus
When the dispatches out of the Blade Runner 2049 set remained focused on the actual movie and not some outsize shenanigans, we began to doubt Jared Leto’s commitment to method acting. Even though only he has a “small part” in Denis Villenueve’s sequel as Neander Wallace, the character seems to...
All the people saying Ford, are you fucking drunk? How could that be the answer, when he's talking about casting the wrong person? Ford is playing the same character he did in the original.