I know alien (who contributed heavily to Overdrive) has at least posted in a GAF demoscene thread, but obviously they're associated with Titan already.
Still waiting on getting an Overdrive 2 cart!
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Demoscene: The best and most impressive amateur demos
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Still waiting on getting an Overdrive 2 cart!
Soooooo
Haujobb just released their Amiga demo framework. It's still incomplete, it's technical, difficult but ohhhhh so interesting
Original source (with link) is here : https://www.amigalife.org/index.php...pmlfE7t2XpvH3NMhRBxtKwz9p9oJu5kjQYp2Y3g#msg41
Haujobb just released their Amiga demo framework. It's still incomplete, it's technical, difficult but ohhhhh so interesting
Original source (with link) is here : https://www.amigalife.org/index.php...pmlfE7t2XpvH3NMhRBxtKwz9p9oJu5kjQYp2Y3g#msg41
Oh man, Skaven/Purple Motion mods soundtracked many a post high school evening for me back in the 90s. Great stuff and they're still involved in the industry!
Since nobody took me up on my offer to make art for my Demo, I'm going a different route and recreating some cutscenes from modern games on old hardware:
This is a composite of various correct bit-depth images in ILBM format for the amiga. On the left is the arcade original -- its the introduction cutscene to Fantasy Zone II DX, a system 16C arcade game released around 2009 (that is, a game from 2009, running on real 1985 hardware). That board would have cost about a thousand dollars back in 1985. On the right, the art hand converted to the Amiga. I'm managing to get 3 parallax layers out of the thing by cheating -- Opa Opa in the front is a 3bpp bitplane (7 colors + transparent), the far back is also a 3bpp bitplane (8 colors, with blue being a copper list gradient), and the middle layer is actually multiplexed 16-width 3 color sprites, one after the other in a copper list, to create a neo-geo AES style middle layer. Only 3 colors + transparent pixel, but I use a copper list to create more colors.
This is a composite of various correct bit-depth images in ILBM format for the amiga. On the left is the arcade original -- its the introduction cutscene to Fantasy Zone II DX, a system 16C arcade game released around 2009 (that is, a game from 2009, running on real 1985 hardware). That board would have cost about a thousand dollars back in 1985. On the right, the art hand converted to the Amiga. I'm managing to get 3 parallax layers out of the thing by cheating -- Opa Opa in the front is a 3bpp bitplane (7 colors + transparent), the far back is also a 3bpp bitplane (8 colors, with blue being a copper list gradient), and the middle layer is actually multiplexed 16-width 3 color sprites, one after the other in a copper list, to create a neo-geo AES style middle layer. Only 3 colors + transparent pixel, but I use a copper list to create more colors.
I loved finding video game rips (specifically, stuff they did) and finding out it was tracker music and I could listen to rips in whatever mod player I had handy (which is modizer, at least while I'm still on iOS). Case in point: Death Rally
Skaven is pretty much single-handedly responsible for most of Popcap's games being as good as they were.
Dude you're bumping this for Titan?
Lemon, TBL and Haujobb stole the show today.
The Amiga compo wiped the floor with absolutely everything. I was amazed by what Lemon and TBL got out of a stock 500
Haujobb completely took me by surprise with Brutalism. What a beautiful compo, far from the tech pieces of the PC scene. It had soul, a story, art and incredible sound
Revision'19 was fantastic
This is pure tech wizardry. If you had told me this was running on a 386 I would've believed you.
Just watched the combo and yes, very impressive. :)
It was fun to see couple of old tricks in there.
Also amazing to see subpixel precision on some of the demos, stability adds so much to presentation.
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The moment the music kicks in still blows my mind.
Maybe because I read the dev writeup: http://www.reenigne.org/blog/8088-pc-speaker-mod-player-how-its-done/
The performance in that Titan demo is absolutely outrageous! Insane tech wizadry! :O
I love these demos, but oh man, that Tales of Phantasia music shout-out was a nice surprise lol.
My god, the Genesis version runs better then the SNES version using a dedicated asic. That's just insane.
There was a SNES version presented at the same time, with a very very shitty rendition of Laxity's Checknobank
Considering the power of the machine, the C64 Wonderland XIII demo takes some beating in the audio department..
The sampled Prodigy track is seriously impressive.. (7m 30s)
The sampled Prodigy track is seriously impressive.. (7m 30s)
This is the same scene, continuous since the 80s. TBL (post above this one) celebrate their 30th birthday this year.
I follow them on Facebook, it was the only demo I saw on literally any platform/in any category :(
PS. Haujobb stealing the show isn't news ;P
Hah, the author had the same PC I had while growing up... the ol' Amstrad PC1512 (we had the PC1640, but same-same).
PPS. Link to all the comp entrants/winners at Revision 2019 on pouet.net
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I posted earlier in this thread Haujobb's demomaking environment for the Amiga (OCS, ECS and AGA)
You can start there
I think its cool to see older demos being done for other hardware, especially consoles. Been many years since i was active in the demo scene myself, so i probably would have missed it if not posted.
Titan remade a 19 years old Oxygene demo for the ST, the same demo was also remade for the SNES on the very same night.
The Amiga compo was where it was at yesterday. You guys should absolutely check it out, 7 of the presented demos where absolutely amazing
Yeah, i just mean that i think its cool to see people remake/port things for other systems. Like 2nd Reality that were made for C64 some years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tngQaAJroQE). That was probably the first demo i've saw in my life, a friend had it on a floppy disk back in the mid 90s, ran it on my 486 DX2 66MHz :) Interesting to see how people take on demos like this and make them for other platforms instead.
Definitely great demos on the Amiga front as well! Love that people still make these. I wonder how it will in like 50 years from now, if people will make stuff for today's PC hardware in 50 years.
This series of NEC PC-Engine and SuperGrafx demos are amoung my favorites.
More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQaUNabRiy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CutMY8MOGRE
More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQaUNabRiy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CutMY8MOGRE
Always nice to see Desert Dreams. :)
Nice clean demo, good ideas and performance.
Love the 3D part and how they saved a lot of performance by locking camera rotation and using simple copperlist for a background.
I feel that Arte often gets forgotten despite having better music, presentation and programming. They were released around the same time.
Sanity's Roots 2 with its « No aga » part was equally impressive (demo boots straight to the no aga part on an O/ECS computer)
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First note and I remembered the demo. :D
And yes it's a great demo.
We watched a lot of Amiga demos back when we were active, good times.
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It's the fixed and consistent hardware platform that keeps people at it. PCs are just too varied for people to hold onto any particular spec out of nostalgia. It's not even a complexity issue: There's certainly no active "early 90's PC" demoscene despite the comparable performance, so I don't think there will be anything like the modern Amiga scene for today's PCs.
What I'm not sure about is the Amiga scene outliving its veterans. TBL make the A500 sing, but they've been at it for 30 years. Are there young crews coming up behind them, or will the skillset eventually die out?
Pottuvoi your H-plus was my fav 64k intro back then. Great music and sync :)
Thanks.
We pretty much always had music first and then fitted everything to it.
Still kind of bummed that we didn't do a infinite mode for H!plus, in hindsight it would have been nice. (We did do 8bit RGB mode though. :D)
This one popped up recently in the Pico-8 scene. It's probably the most impressive technical program I've seen for the platform.
Here's a link to the program running in browser, the source code is there too: https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=62464#p
Here's a link to the program running in browser, the source code is there too: https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=62464#p
I didn't realize there was a new Zachtronics game either. I have no idea what's happening it in, but it looks super cool, I'll have to check it out.
One of the artists posted some of their process not too long ago. Really impressive with only 32 colours.
Yeah, i guess thats a big part of it (fixed hardware and nostalgia for those specific systems), but since those system might die out, i wonder if there will still be a desire trying to get as much as possible out of old hardware in like 50 years from now, and how the scene will evolve around that :)
One reason why there arent any big scene around early 90s PC hardware today might be because we already have more fixed systems like Commodore, Amiga and Atari, so people are rather more interested in those systems instead. But since we dont really have many comparable systems today (new ones), wont there be any nostalgia for today's PC hardware in e.g 50 years from now that will make people still want to create these types of demos? Impossible to answer this today of course, but thats what i'm mostly wondering about :)
Its not something that i've checked into though, but i just have a gut feeling that old systems like Commodore, Amiga and Atari arent popular amongst young(er) people today, so i'd be surprised if theres still an active scene around those systems in e.g 50 years from now on.
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