It does look very good.What's a "full new generation"? Every game 4k/60/RT? That's not happening in any console.
Edit: but look at this reflection
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Demon's Souls won't support RayTracing
- Thread starter Raigor
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No, I don't like Spiderman, so far I'm just getting Sackboy, I was thinking about getting Destruction but the game is coming to ps plus I think so I'm gonna wait on that. I'm undecided between a game that I already played (Demon's Souls) or Godfall. When is Ratchet coming out?
Yeah you can tell, the game just looks awful.
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Abso-fucking-lutely.
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To the list war makers in the next 24 months?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
We are getting a full new gen , in fact this is one of the biggest jump overall when it comes to gens .
But RT is very power hungry and price of these system would have been total out of reach and even then we still far away from using for some things.
I didn't want to add Remasters (hence omitting Spider-Man Remastered and specifying next-gen games), but I'll add in Cold War.
RT is not something a dev can include pressing a button if the hardware supports it. Most PC games doesn't do RT as a matter of fact. It's a new technology that not many devs engaged with.
Not 100% sure, but i think the PS5 is stronger in 2020 than PS4 was in 2013, in comparison to PCs.
Both PS4 and Xone were heavily criticized for being weak versus high end pcs back then. I guess PS5 and Series X are in a better place power wise this time.
Yes, I'm fine with paying more than $500 but I understand not many people would be willing to spend that much specially on these times that we are living in right now, ok I will lower my expectations now, it is what it is I guess, anyways I'm excited to play Sackboy, Ratchet, Kena, Horizon and God of War!
Forget the raytracing, look at that random NPC's facial expressions.What's a "full new generation"? Every game 4k/60/RT? That's not happening in any console.
Edit: but look at this reflection
PS: Is it weird that I think the reflections should be a little more subdued? I mean, it obviously looks great but I can barely see the inside of the store.
What's a "full new generation"? Every game 4k/60/RT? That's not happening in any console.
Edit: but look at this reflection
60fps > watching some random NPC walk behind you
This just highlights how overhyped RT is as a graphical selling point, relative to the heavy performance cost it incurs right now.
The game looks absolutely stunning regardless.
The game looks absolutely stunning regardless.
I still don't really understand Ray-tracing and it's impact to games whether it's good or bad. Just the simple reflection point. So I guess I don't mind it not being in Demon's Souls. Maybe they'll patch it in down the line sometime.
The game looks unbelievable especially in performance "day-time soap opera" mode as it is.
I'm eager to see the "bells and whistles" mode and what graphical improvements it provides to this already stellar looking game.
The game looks unbelievable especially in performance "day-time soap opera" mode as it is.
I'm eager to see the "bells and whistles" mode and what graphical improvements it provides to this already stellar looking game.
As i said in that other thread it was clear there wasn't any RT when interviews didn't mention it 5 times already. RT is THE buzz word this gen.
Now Rt or not, i still think this games impresses with production value, textures and model quality, art direction... But it won't impress very long this gen when games with actual next gen tech and SSD voodoo will hit.
Now Rt or not, i still think this games impresses with production value, textures and model quality, art direction... But it won't impress very long this gen when games with actual next gen tech and SSD voodoo will hit.
See I don't get quotes like this , just because a game looks very good without something doesn't mean that additional feature (ray tracing) in this instance any less visually impressive .
In demon's souls I don't even know if it has a great application anyway. It's pretty much just more natural lighting and reflections that Ray tracing enables, but in a game like this where it's pretty narrow you can do some crazy stuff with other lighting techniques
Again, go watch that DF video, they cited the PSBlog post which mentioned RT, and they speculated that might be included in the 30fps mode which has not been shown. The PSBlog post is evidently incorrect, not DF.
This shit is tiresome.
i think Jstevenson posted it has been improved since then. Agree it's a bit too reflective but still pretty
Not a big deal, but I don't especially care for them confirming it earlier if they knew it wasn't in the game
I was watching a Minecraft ray tracing video when switching RTX off the fps was 227, with RT on, the frame rate dropped to 62.
Its a hugely taxing feature.
Its a hugely taxing feature.
Gavin Moore hit every marketing bullet point in every interview. He didn't say ray tracing once. So this is not a surprise to me.
This is a joke, right?
Not every dev is going to implement RT. It was never going to happen. Even if Sony put out a $1500 console it wasnt going to happen.
Looks alright to me. Generally during bright daylight you would not see inside because of reflections.
Look at this storefront for example.
The way ray-tracing is implemented right now means that its only really impressive in certain contexts in certain games--and it still incurs a heavy performance penalty, even with DLSS.
Now if they could implement it without such a heavy FPS cost, that would be one thing, but if the choice is between raytracing and a 30-60% boost in FPS...I prefer the latter.
No is not a joke but it seems to me people get too defensive about everything sony does, anyways I'm not gonna say bad things about the ps5 anymore, I have lowered my expectations already, it is what it is I guess, let the new gen come, I'm ready, Sackboy is already pre ordered off psn, just waiting on sony to send me my ps5.
It's pretty clear to me they wanted to make this game on of the best looking 60FPS games seems like day 1 was their goal to make it 60 imo.
And it's still the best looking next-gen game available. The quicker devs drop last-gen, the better.
Yeah but Minecraft RTX is full pathtracing. That's a whole other beast than just using it for some reflections and shadows, for example.
This is a bit tough, because I don't think RT is essential, certainly not for games that would benefit from much higher frame rates.
But IT IS worth it for the majority of instances. And it's absolutely the future. And it's going to save a lot of dev time when it becomes more prevalent.
RT is indeed taxing, but using Minecraft RTX is a poor example. Minecraft RTX is fully path traced:
Source.
So while any RT is going to have a hit on your performance, it's not as dramatic as the Minecraft and Quake RTX examples.
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hey remanutd do you think the XSX is as powerful as Microsoft says it is?
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[Beyond3D] Watchdogs Legion is dynamic 4K on XSX (ranging 1440p-4K)
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/watch-dogs-legion-xo-ps4-xbsx-s-ps5-pc.61903/page-3#post-2170098 Users on Beyond3D have pixel counted the XSX footage - it appears to be running dynamic resolution which can hit has high as 4K and as low as 1440p in the footage released so far. Why is this...
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Full path tracing is the most exciting aspect of ray tracing but it has one hell of a performance hit. Hooray for stuff like DLSS!
Even the lesser features of ray tracing are cool when used correctly. Control does such a great job with reflections! Feels like most areas in the game are designed around it.
It's not about being defensive of Sony. Your expectations were beyond unrealistic.
Every dev has to pick what features to implement, not just because computation is finite but so is time. No dev has the man power to implement every feature on the planet.
As mentioned in the article, BluePoint is a small team and they did not make RT a priority.
I'm not even gonna read the article, I don't care what Microsoft or the new Xbox does, I have never owned one before and not planning to own one this upcoming gen. I'm sorry but my interest is solely on the ps5.hey remanutd do you think the XSX is as powerful as Microsoft says it is?
[Beyond3D] Watchdogs Legion is dynamic 4K on XSX (ranging 1440p-4K)
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/watch-dogs-legion-xo-ps4-xbsx-s-ps5-pc.61903/page-3#post-2170098 Users on Beyond3D have pixel counted the XSX footage - it appears to be running dynamic resolution which can hit has high as 4K and as low as 1440p in the footage released so far. Why is this...
Yes, I think you are right about my expectations :( anyways let the new gen come, I'm ready.
the point i was making was developers take different priorites when making their games. the lads over there making watch dogs legion decided to implement RT but as a resut, the game runs at 30fps with a dynamic res that can go down as low as 1440p. these consoles are plenty powerful but devs will take different approaches to how they develop their games. bluepoint, IMO, made the right decision to forego RT and get the game to look as good as it does.