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This was my thinking also. Accessibility is very important and to say that the experience is best served with haptics is not a great message for those who can't experience all features
Sounds cool. Looking forward to new experiences.
The general approach here to new features and ideas is to start hostile, and perhaps begrudgingly over time accept something as an option, while continuing to throw shade at it. Look at gyro, or the steam controller.
It's important to remember that Era is a bubble. A bunch of people who hate every type of motion control as a rule. From a thread yesterday, a bunch of people who shut off motion blur despite it being a default feature in many/most games.
The general approach here to new features and ideas is to start hostile, and perhaps begrudgingly over time accept something as an option, while continuing to throw shade at it. Look at gyro, or the steam controller.
It does. People who "try hard" in multiplayer turn it off, which is fine. But turning it off for immersive single player? Blasphemy.
Awesome, can't wait. I think the DualSense is something I'm looking forward to the most—never loved DS4 (too cramped).
Some people don't experience immersion. Like I don't mind a little bit of feedback but don't get in my way. If immersion gets in the way of me enjoying a game and playing it without any issues, let me disable that shit entirely.
Like rapid camera movement and first person camera shake - shit might be more "realistic" but it gives me migraines. Let me turn it off.
Yup. I wonder how far into the gen this feature gets dropped from third party. I'm guessing not long, and it will be mainly first party using it. Can't wait to shut it off every chance I get.
If anything the haptics/resistive triggers sound like they'll be more subtle and detailed than rumble. Like going from 2.0 sound with really overdone bass to surround sound with high dynamic range. Feels like that would match up better with the rest of the experience.
It adds very little to nothing. It's a total afterthought for nearly every game. Probably the most useless gimmick ever introduced to gaming.
I don't quite dislike it, but I find very little of worth in it since I first experienced this shit with Star Fox 64. You play fighting games on an arcade stick, right? Do you miss rumble when you play fighting games? :P
The most "memorable" uses of this gimmick have been gimmicks themselves: Stuff like psycho Mantis in MGS1 or the controller vibrating in Ocarina of Time when you're under some random hidden treasure lol. Over 20 years rumble has added nothing to game design.
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I'm intrigued. I do not think its gimicky to actual be more drawn into the experience of the game you're playing. Feeling a parry or the tension to push open a gate is a plus in my book. Plus the option of course to turn it off for those who are not into this sort of thing.
You sound excited. Does any amount of self reflection cause this to strike you as a weird reaction?
How about trying it first before shitting on it? Why are you so negative in playstation threads? Your posts are seriously a buzzkill. I almost exclusively lurk on this site but had to log on just to reply to this.
I'm really not unique in any way in finding haptic feedback a completely unnecessary feature, though? Like a LOT of people in this thread are talking about turning this stuff off immediately.
Do you honestly think your average console owner goes into their system settings and shuts off rumble? Do you feel that this is a commonly held belief and that rumble and haptics have only existed due to some sort of industry momentum over the last 20 years?
Ah, as someone said above I was referring to SP games/campaigns. No way I'd use rumble for a fighting game even if I was playing on pad.
I'm excited for next gen for sure, just not for this gimmick. Hope that is ok with you
You shouldn't let the fact that some people aren't excited about this bother you. Yeah, I think lots of people shut this off. It is annoying and distracting to some.
Still think it's all a gimmick, a way for Sony to sell their controllers for a higher price and force people to buy new ones because "old ones are not compatible because no haptic feedback".
Prove me wrong Sony!
Edit: I'm also one of those people that always deactivate rumble when I have a chance.
Prove me wrong Sony!
Edit: I'm also one of those people that always deactivate rumble when I have a chance.
The whole deal sounds awesome...I wonder if it will be as cool in practice. The other thing I wonder is that if every dev is using the trigger tension effect, how long before those trigger tension gears and mechanicals wear out?
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these controllers though...Hopefully I can use it instead of my Elite controller adapted because I want to see what this stuff is like.
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these controllers though...Hopefully I can use it instead of my Elite controller adapted because I want to see what this stuff is like.
Can'T wait to try it. Always liked rumble, the only game it was too much was Avengers. Can't wait to try the haptic feedback
This won't be a Souls game. This will be a Souls-like game.
FROM makes Souls games.
Are you serious ? This is low key insulting for the team at Bluepoint studios
I'm super excited to try these new features. Hopefully it will add something substantial to immersion.
Other than HD Humble on the Switch (cool but too weak IMO) the last time I can actually remember conventional rumble was on Ground Zeroes when BB checks the vital signs of Paz.
Other than HD Humble on the Switch (cool but too weak IMO) the last time I can actually remember conventional rumble was on Ground Zeroes when BB checks the vital signs of Paz.
I'll never understand someone with a mindset so against something so benign; something you've never even tried before that you "can't wait" to make sure you never experience. I just don't even know where someone musters up that kind of feeling. It's bizarre, but as long as I get to enjoy it (Or not, who knows; I might not like it, won't know until I try), there's no loss to me.
Not insulting at all unless you think the throngs of Souls-likes are all trash.
This remake is taking FROM's ideas and putting its own spin on it. That's what Souls-likes are, albeit this is using/referencing their intellectual property directly. So I guess this could be considered more tribute than remake.
Sounds cool as hell. I imagine swinging using a small sword with little to no resistance on the triggers while a giant hammer would be harder to pull.
Or I guess we could all say how terrible it is and how it ruins the game without trying it.....
edit: also people on this site still (STILL!) don't understand what adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are at all, which is kind of baffling.
Or I guess we could all say how terrible it is and how it ruins the game without trying it.....
edit: also people on this site still (STILL!) don't understand what adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are at all, which is kind of baffling.
Yea this sounds like something I will go "neat" at first and then immediately turn off once I get serious with the game.
A very loud, and very firm "meh" from me.
A very loud, and very firm "meh" from me.
Man... Those volumetric clouds still look good to this day.
You can make fun but I was a fucking God in a Warhawk because of the gyro
I think the stuff with the levers is gimmicky but if its done well with weapons and spells I disagree.
Curious to see if the rumble is anything different from what we have in the switch. I know the major difference will be the adaptive triggers, but we'll see. Geoff didn't sound very impressed when he tried astrobot, but we won't know until next month.
This is me literally with any game on ps4 with gyro aiming. Can't get it to work without a core workout.
