Makes sense. He's from NY and then was in politics in Vermont.
The US is diverse and its easy to be blind to issues that may be more prevalent in other states.
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Makes sense. He's from NY and then was in politics in Vermont.
The US is diverse and its easy to be blind to issues that may be more prevalent in other states.
This quote is why there's been a problem - Vermont has a massively disproportionate number of its black residents incarcerated, which Bernie could have learned from speaking with members of that community in Vermont at some point in the 50 years he's been living there. He was able to avoid this conversation for that long likely because Vermont's the second-whitest state in the country and black voters are a tiny 1.4% of the population as opposed to 12.5% nationwide.
Yep. I'd be really concerned if I thought Pete with his lack of minority support could win in SC. Pete might do well in Lily White states, but if/when he doesn't get the pick up that he needs from these other states, he'll be running on fumes in no time.
What? No one in good faith would have an issue with a candidate simply saying they got a better understanding of the corrupt/racist criminal justice system by hearing about various life experiences once they ran for president. Again, that doesn't suddenly remove all candidates' records/issues in regards to race of course.
That has nothing to do with the quote in question though. The insinuation was that he suddenly learned that the criminal justice system had problems only once he ran for president. That doesn't somehow remove all of Bernie's flaws in regards to race, but that was never the point being made.
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Yeah no shit but they are much more obvious and egregious in some states more than others.
I took that quote to mean that upon traveling to varying areas of the US I truly learned how bad it is.
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when will bernie apologize for the things i assume his supporters would say about this hypothetical scenario
Pete's makin' me a little nervous. His momentum has been insane, please be temporary. Bernie moving into attack position is a pretty good indication. Though his attacks are good so I'm not too worried.
I imagine Pete is going to be fending everybody off tonight
I imagine Pete is going to be fending everybody off tonight
I'm okay with a strong Pete showing in NH as long as Bernie is the decisive winner, and Biden continues to crater.
When was the last time "I'm not the Republican in power right now" worked?
i'd be interested to know what the weighing of likely voters versus registered democrats is. That's big lens that polls have to be read though since nh is not only an open primary but because of it's long history and self appointed importance it remains the kind of contest independents can make a big splash in, especially when there isn't a republican race to draw attention.
Hillary would have easily won election in 2008.
Negative partisanship is a very real thing.
He's mostly up because of one poll from Suffolk, the same pollsters who had Biden up 6 points before Iowa.
lol they never will. to libs, we're still a mass of angry white boys despite all the evidence to the contrary.
look mack, back in the old days when you lost a bunch of points they would light a candle in your name and tell you to pick up your pants. that's what i always did and that's what everybody did. now these days, all these young people come up to me and tell me "biden we need healthcare" and i tell them what you need is an attitude adjustment buster
He'll bob back up a bit as Pete sputters out, but it's definitely not looking good.
For anyone to beat Trump? Nope, i feel like whoever gets the nomination, Trump will be the favorite to win. Not saying the Democrats have no Chance, but it will be a hard fight.
Doesn't speak well to you aspirations when they don't even spell your name right in the polling.
Wait, what was the question or the context? Didn't lie but it just looked like a question dodge dressed as a first woman president quip 🤔
(funny ass video tho)
After Nevada:
"It was expected that Bernie won Nevada because that has a disproportionate amount of Latino voters but just wait until we are in SC then you will see!"
He's right wrt Pete. In the end though I think the damage to Biden's perception will be done.
Two 4th places in a row would be disastrous for Biden. If he comes in 3rd at least they can claim he's starting a comeback.
I asked my wife who she thought had won the Iowa Caucus and she said "Buttigieg right?", aware that he had prematurely declared victory but convinced that either way he was the eventual winner
I wonder how many other people this was effective with. I'm sure his boost from Iowa is owed to both his strong performance and virtual tie, but also some people not realizing that he hadn't actually "won" (though he still might in terms of SDEs) and suddenly seeing him as more viable
I wonder how many other people this was effective with. I'm sure his boost from Iowa is owed to both his strong performance and virtual tie, but also some people not realizing that he hadn't actually "won" (though he still might in terms of SDEs) and suddenly seeing him as more viable
gabbard and yang drop the fuck out and duel endorse challenge
Whomever gabbard endorses will get side eye from me if they appear on stage together
Gabbard will send her top surrogate Michael Tracey, who will later sue Bernie for pointing too vigorously at him
You pretend as if he was not a civil rights leader in Vermont. "Fucked off for decades".. you mean, leading a city that became one of the most livable, ranked one of the best mayors, and led several projects to help housing for the lower class, etc?
No one should treat it as a lay-up, but Trump's approval and re-elect numbers have been consistently terrible. If Obama was rocking a 43% approval rating (as Trump is on 538 average currently) in 2012, we all would have taken a Romney victory for granted.
I found this to be a sad but thoughtful piece. Won't bother breaking it up and quoting it (since it's a story, not a news report or something) but basically her boyfriend died from self-medicating after he couldn't afford proper care, and that's how she came to understand why M4A is necessary.
Sanders doesn't need a campaign for president in order to understand the extent of prejudice in the justice system. Especially with his record on civil rights participation established decades ago in New York City, mayor of Burlington VT, and years in the Senate, that statement does not compute. Because of course it's not the full quote.
In the full quote there are a few things he admits he didn't realize, like the 400,000 incarcerated but not charged with anything. He also discusses learning the specifics on how the experience differs state by state.
Beware of quote-only tweets from journalists without attribution or article.
As for Biden's staff vs. Turner, using population percentages and polling data to tell specific people who they are and what they value is always a bad idea.
In the full quote there are a few things he admits he didn't realize, like the 400,000 incarcerated but not charged with anything. He also discusses learning the specifics on how the experience differs state by state.
Beware of quote-only tweets from journalists without attribution or article.
As for Biden's staff vs. Turner, using population percentages and polling data to tell specific people who they are and what they value is always a bad idea.
Vermont literally has one of the highest incarceration rates of black men and NY's black population was 14 percent in 1960?
Me, last week: "They should just stop polling New Hampshire. It's a waste of time. New Hampshire is a total non-contest."
Me, now: "If I don't get another three New Hampshire polls in the next 24 hours I'm relocating the hostages and no longer cooperating with law enforcement."
Me, now: "If I don't get another three New Hampshire polls in the next 24 hours I'm relocating the hostages and no longer cooperating with law enforcement."
I want to believe!
But man there are just so many candidates in the race still and Bernie needs to get above 25% and up toward like 50-60% after people start dropping out.
March 3rd is going to tell the whole story and it's kinda nerve wracking.
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