If they don't release more numbers today, then definitely seems like intentional. Nevertheless, lets hope they release more numbers soon.
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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If they don't release more numbers today, then definitely seems like intentional. Nevertheless, lets hope they release more numbers soon.
I'm saying that I don't know. everyone here seems to be saying that know it's 100% because of his record.
Not unless those remaining results come from a large number of caucus sites in those cities. Pete has a delegate lead due to a lot of wins in small, rural caucus sites - huge vote wins in a smaller number of urban caucus sites don't matter as much to the delegate count. It's just like the electoral college in that it disproportionately represents rural interests over urban ones.
Overall, I don't see the results changing much when everything is counted - Bernie will have a small vote win, Pete will have a small delegate win, and neither will gain or lose much as a result.
Pete stands no chance in the general. There's a reason he's been criticized so hard by black folks in Indiana. That shit about him firing a black police chief for disciplining prejudiced white cops will come back up, and kill any shot at earning support.
What the fuck
What the fuck
I don't think it's intentional. I just think it's careless and inept. The result is the same either way, though.
no of course not
mainly because of an out of line police department in his city, with a weak attempts from him to curtail it, is my impression
He did well at caucuses so that automatically made them worth defending no matter how shitty they really are.
The Register poll is a big deal, but given everyone here is complaining about partial results and a lack of clarity, I don't think releasing a compromised poll that multiple campaigns wanted pulled would have been the right move for a print dinosaur to try. Or any outlet with a modicum of integrity.
Hmm I always looked at Buttigieg as a younger discount Biden. Didn't realize he was so popular in Iowa.
My reaction anytime Pete says he does anything to support Black issues or will do so:
Maybe, just maybe, that's why he's at 0% with the black community.
Maybe, just maybe, that's why he's at 0% with the black community.
The trend I'm taking about is just the general air of suspicion or horrible lack of transparency. Pointing out that the Iowa Democrats have their own internal political motivations isn't conspiracy theory it's noting plausible albeit dirty political strategy.
His DNC appointees voted for changes to get states to move to primaries though
If rural white voters aren't concerned about it, then I imagine that black voters aren't either. Pete's problem is specifically related to his horrible history/issues on matters of race, which voters of color *do* care about.
Nah victim complex is too strong. When everything doesn't 100% go your way (even if its going 90% your way) it has to be because someone is cheating you *rolls eyes*
paradoxically, pete being seen as the winner could be good for bernie. if pete is seen as viable, i think he'll mainly pull voters from biden, but not so many from bernie
To be clear - this is false. We know his campaign gave Shadow $50k for something 7 months ago. The app isn't the only thing this company has ever created and the app was only developed in the last two months. A political campaign purchasing a service from a political software development company isn't necessarily nefarious.
Well, when your first choice of Biden cannot reach viability you very well might turn to Pete or Amy.
Let's see how long it takes them to update the numbers. Their tone in responding to the question of a timeline gave me zero confidence.
biden's dismal performance among white voters is the real story here.
im not convinced the bread price fixer has a roadmap to victory, and while the iowa democratic parties incompetence has eroded trust in the system i don't think the next weeks media cycle damages sanders really (sanders opening up lead over warren, more chaos among the centrist candidates)
im not convinced the bread price fixer has a roadmap to victory, and while the iowa democratic parties incompetence has eroded trust in the system i don't think the next weeks media cycle damages sanders really (sanders opening up lead over warren, more chaos among the centrist candidates)
Honestly, I'm not sure what you're talking about - I was only talking about that poll. It sucks for the paper. Those things cost like $100k at a minimum. Not nothing for a newspaper that does 5 of them, and I was proud (as a subscriber) they said no to putting it out.
This is my thinking at the moment. If Pete can place decently in NH and Nevada as well, Bernie may be able to make away with it as the centrist vote fractures.
Which perfectly explains why the runaway leader with black voters is...*blink* Joe Biden *blink*
Pete isn't doing well with black voters for the same reason Yang, Warren, and every other non-Biden & Bernie candidate is doing badly with black voters - they have no base of black voters to chase after. The truth is, your average black voter, especially the average black male voter, based on polling, actual history of whom black voters choose to vote for, etc., they likely has a lot of views on crime that many people on here would find supremely un-woke.
Do you think they're happy about having their fuck-up be a constant news story? Do you think that they're happy that the person that was in charge of the state election is probably getting booted from his job for this and he'll be known as the person that destroyed one of his state's main money-makers, being first in the nation? Like, c'mon.
i guess i don't know how to explain to y'all that Pete Claiming He Won Iowa, But Then When The Full Results Came In It Turns Out He Did Not Win Iowa is not a good story for Pete and it's not something you'd be able to bury either.
maybe, but it's close enough that it's probably not going to matter much in terms of actual DeleGets.
maybe, but it's close enough that it's probably not going to matter much in terms of actual DeleGets.
"Black people don't like Mayor Pete because he's gay!" has got to be the dumbest take that's been regularly parroted during these primaries, and that's saying a lot considering all the dumb shit people have been saying today...
I'm quite curious how this impacts Bloomberg. A Sanders win + very bad Biden showing is probably his ideal scenario.
Warren played her lie about Bernie right. Her supporters who want you to think Bernie is their second choice really didnt vote that way when asked to realign from what I reviewed in that google doc data. Kept Bernie's final vote numbers down. I'm sure he won't pick her for VP.
But he still personally defended them as being democratic when they obviously aren't.
538's prediction accounted for this outcome. If Butti wins, Sanders in second Biden has a 10% higher chance of taking the nom than Sanders. I mean, it's better than Biden winning but that doesn't look like it was in the cards.
Top 3 are all that really matter folks. Remember, these candidates get delegates, so Pete edging out Bernie in our very white, moderate state doesn't mean much. Bernie has bigger recognition elsewhere.
Do you have anything else showing Sanders wanted to get rid of caucuses in favor of primaries? Wanting them to be more transparent and accessible doesn't strike me as "we want to get rid of these".
Bernie is supposed to win NH and Navada is a caucus so who knows what the hell is going to happen.
SC is the real test for Biden and Pete.
SC is the real test for Biden and Pete.
Yes. Des Moines hasn't reported yet and that area will likely favor Sanders.
NV is also a test for Biden. He can't afford to lose it. His only argument is electability. Both are tests for Pete.
Edit: Shit NH is also a test for Pete.
It seems way too soon for her to drop out... I think for sure she'd go until Super Tuesday.
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