Klobuchar, Biden, and the State of Nevada are in on it too! Drain the swamp!
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Klobuchar, Biden, and the State of Nevada are in on it too! Drain the swamp!
You're under the delusion that leftists are large enough in number to carry a general election. They aren't, Sanders picking someone like AOC (if she was eligible) would be a horrible decision.
Bernie needs a more moderate running mate to persuade people who think he's too left.
well, if he wants to win
well, if he wants to win
I just answered my own question: if Baldwin is VP, we are -1 in the Senate until a special election or the next primary/general election.
It's dumb to claim he won, definitely, but it's public. So he knows where he won and where Bernie won and how much Biden got, etc. Every caucus group ends the same way: they read the supporter size, the percentage, and the delegates apportioned to each viable candidate.
My guess is him and Bernie and the others just wrote down those results from as many places as they had staff.
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"To be fair, this was from last night when the misinformation was everywhere. She probably shouldn't have said anything without more concrete stuff, but I get that everyone was frustrated." - is what i was going to say, but after reading the rest of her recent timeline I'm less inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.
Imagine thinking a Pete wave is even a thing when Pete's minority support is non existent.
It's not even the DNC's app, the DNC doesn't run the caucus...
Sigh.
People getting caught up in diversions. Pete announcing victory is much more troubling than all this conspiracy theorising or wasting time chasing them on Twitter. But some people love to get sidelines down the irrelevance hole, and then grandstand.
Roseann isn't part of the campaign, she's just an endorser.
It's actually not that unusual at all. Bernie is a great guy and potentially a good leader, but man, the campaign surrounding him is completely off the rails with extremism and twitter-drama obsessed managers. I wish he would clamp down on some of the campaign's surrounding staff when it comes to messaging to try to unify the party more. Unfortunately, I don't think unification of the party is one of Bernie's top concerns which is going to make for a rough general election regardless of who wins.
Nah she can fuck off
This civility bullshit is how liberals normalized homophobia before public opinion shifted in the late 00's, shame on this volonteer for saying she "totally respects" this vile woman's opinion.
Guys, in this context owning means owning responsibility.
She's not a bystander, she's doing a job and she has to be impartial and she's surrounded by cameras in the most contentious caucus in recent memory. She most definitely said the most she could. If she were just another bystander, she probably could have chimed in with something more assertive, but isn't she a caucus rep volunteer?
Why should pete own any responsibility over something he had no part of? If anything, Bernie has more ownership over this mess than anyone since he pushed for the change of the Caucus rules...
So you'd be willing to lose your job and permanently damage your career over calling someone an asshole? Someone that you will never convince otherwise? Give me a fucking break. I fully agree if you're off the job and you see an asshole say something you can tell them to fuck off and go on your way, but her flipping out on that woman gets her in massive trouble. Posts like these are incredibly hypocritical and a bunch of bullshit. I don't know where you work, but I'm wiling to bet you wouldn't stand up to your bosses on plenty of immoral issues.
If the Sanders campaign makes it that far I suspect they'll be looking to go against conventional wisdom like so much of their campaign already is.
I've seen Warren and Barbera Lee floating around before and those are probably the type of people the campaign theoretically would be looking at. Especially with the age fear floating around Bernie right now.
She is a volonteer to a political campaign lead by a gay man, and she cannot even repudiate homphobia without coddling a bigoted piece of shit.
He is running on that fact, his people being so limp in rejecting homophobia is a terrible look.
This is such a shit show. They are talking on MSNBC about how some of these locations allowed non-viable candidates to become viable after realignment meaning that some candidates received delegates when they shouldn't have. We actually witnessed this live on MSNBC last night. Warren at one location was non-viable after first count but then after realignment they gained one person and was allowed to be viable. Results are forever tainted.
The rules change are fine, there should be more transparency and reporting. It isn't their fault the Iowa Democratic Party is incompetent.
Not everyone is behind a computer screen and can say anything they want. You're getting hung up on a woman who seems to be around kids (maybe her own), and is put on the spot. Not everyone has the personality or awareness/experience to be in the kind of conversation she found herself in.
No one's dropping out today, nor should they, regardless of how they did. Same with NH. I expect a few dropouts (as in, real candidates dropping out not those always polling low) after Super Tuesday.
Ok then blame Pete for coddling them, the volunteer has to act as if they're an extension of the candidate and you can't say whatever you want.
I can damn near guarantee, Pete himself would be fucking livid if she threw a fit in this moment. That woman is vile, the video makes me sick to my stomach, but that volunteer handled it the best she could.
Both Warren and Lee are in their early 70s, if age is the primary concern neither would be good picks. The primary concern should be winning, the best way to do that would be for Bernie to balance the ticket to assuage people who are hesitant to support him.
I was wondering about this, I thought that Unviable candidates had to redistribute themselves or leave? It was happening constantly, and likely altered the results significantly if that isn't allowed.
I don't see Klobuchar sticking around too much longer. She needed to hit top 3 to have a real shot
Unless she does great in New Hampshire, I think she's out.
Are you saying nationally? Because Biden and Sanders are pretty safely our frontrunners in aggregate. Warren, unless she retains her momentum, will probably step aside after Super Tuesday and nobody else (at the moment) is a viable competitive candidate.
Things can definitely change and maybe Bloomberg will manage to displace Biden or something crazy like that but from where we are standing now I'd still make the best guess above.
Of course, Pete is a ghoul he would love to have this womans vote.
Don't worry, I can do both and feel quite confortable.
Whether it's the hard drive space or Pete's numbers, the day-one patch accounts for about 30% of the total
Nah, gonna be a woman.
Or at least a black or hispanic guy, like Julián Castro.
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This is allowed. From Wikipedia: "Once viability is determined, participants have roughly another 30 minutes to realign: although supporters of viable candidates are locked in to their choice, the supporters of inviable candidates may find a viable candidate to support, join together with supporters of another inviable candidate to secure a delegate for one of the two, or abstain."
Also, the exact situation you described happened at my precinct but we weren't on MSNBC afaik
Just to expand off of the coin flip theme. Was listening to Sam Seder last night and one of the callers was at a site where only Bernie and Warren were viable. For the realignment, apparently all the supporters of the other candidates (Biden, Booty, Yang, Klob) pooled together and literally just pulled a name (either Bernie or Warren) out of a hat.
Democracy, amirite
Democracy, amirite
Alrighty so we're right back to where we started. "fuck this girl for not speaking up and costing herself her career, making a huge scene, and potentially damaging her candidate of choices chances"
I don't think Yang will make it on a ticket any time soon (or maybe ever) but I'd be interested to see his political career continue for some time. I don't know everything about him but my impression of him is mostly positive.
It influenced maybe a handful of the 7000 delegates, and was in line with how some of the previous caucuses were run.
Thems the breaks for having a fucking head count system at 1700 locations. There is not the remotest chance that everything goes smoothly in an eight-way race.
When you are working for a gay man that is campaining on that fact, you need to do better than "If someone would cancel their vote for him over his homosexuality, it is important to make her feel understood and accepted first. Than try and deprogram decades of bigotry on the spot" lol
That doesn't mean she should be a heartbeat away from being President especially when the President is 80.
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