I mean delegates from Iowa are going to be close regardless, that isn't terribly meaningful either. It's likely neck and neck both would "claim" victory at that point and both would have a point.
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Guess a mod didn't read the staff post.
what's the next step from "pete's campaign put money into the app" in the conspiracy? what was the actual mechanism for them to cheat with it? was it to report inaccurate numbers in pete's favor, as if they don't keep a paper tally that can compare the numbers to? was it for the app to fuck up during reporting, even though that would just invite more scrutiny and necessitate actually counting the paper tallies?
just... like... walk me through the logic.
just... like... walk me through the logic.
You know what's sad. Even though I don't like him, I am deeply disturbed by Biden's result. I already thought he was a weak candidate, but I'm just surprised at the extent. It's just scary to think that he could still plausibly become the nominee.
I'm sure there's a tweet somewhere with the answer, like monkeys with typewriters
Good-ish. We ended up with the most people after the second alignment, but we still tied Pete in delegates and most of the Biden supporters went Pete and Warren. Most of the Sanders supporters left after the first alignment, but you can't really blame them when it's a Monday night. Especially when we kept getting delays because people had to get new registration forms.
It was a fun experience, but the problems with the system are pretty obvious.
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yeah, that's not what you said or implied.
"What's up with Pete's campaign putting money into that app?"
1) he didn't put money into the app; his campaign contracted with the company to provide something entirely different.
2) the implication is there's some sort of nefarious (but conveniently unstated) coordination or plotting going on
do not be disingenuous about what you were saying with your post. it's "just asking questions" dogshit.
I'm just not clear where you're going with this. This thread is for everyone, supporters of all candidates, and it will stay civil by not boosting conspiracy theories. If that's not what you were doing there then, as Tfritz said walk us through the logic. Before your edit you just dropped that post in here without any context but "Pete!"
I think he takes a big hit if the final results look like that. Electability is his big thing, and you can't really push that after coming in 4th/5th in the first primary.
The "My guy or bust" folks don't really start to show up until these times. We have been seeing them multiply in these discussions the last month or so.
it's like... caucuses are super public, and i guess you could massage the numbers a little bit with larger crowds, but....
right like if you're going to name a company that you don't want involved with conspiracy theories, don't name it Shadow
this doesn't actually involve the DNC, but continue to go off i guess
Easier in terms of efficiency for data collection (when done right).
Clearly that wasn't the case here.
Campaigns should not be financially involved with companies working on the mechanisms that will tally up votes. This is something even our dumbass Brazilian democracy has figured out ages ago.
It's not. They thought it would make it easier since they were reporting more than just the final number now. It seems abundantly clear it didn't make it easier for them, likely due to a poor roll out.
Nintendo could announce at E3 that they're getting out of hardware and going exclusive to PC on the Epic Games Store, and that thread would probably be less insane than this one.
Don Lemon just pushed the whole Bernie was behind this app thing...and no one corrected him.
edit- said it as if it were a question. "I'm hearing reports bla bla... is this true?" No answer...and moved on. There's like 6 people at the table who was there the past few hours who could have corrected him... but nope.
edit- said it as if it were a question. "I'm hearing reports bla bla... is this true?" No answer...and moved on. There's like 6 people at the table who was there the past few hours who could have corrected him... but nope.
He wasn't. His campaign paid for a completely different app to be developed by the same company. You can dig and spin all you want but you amplified an unfounded conspiracy theory from an unreliable source.
But lets not let truth and facts get in the way of good ol fashioned outrage.
Love the level of personal involvement, broken and frustrating as the process might be
No
Yang and also Pete are the only ones to formally declare victory.
Bernie posted numbers of 40% of total that shows him in the lead but did not declare anything.
Fyi, earlier today Microsoft Teams, ground to a halt cause they forgot to renew a certificate.
They announced that with the 40% of the votes they had access to they are in the lead.
Do you know what the DNC's role is here, or are you just using the term as a catchall for the Democratic Party?
Contrast that with MSNBC where Seder and Hayes commented on how these issues likely always existed and Sanders pushing for more transparency is likely what brought this all to light.
Well, your original post was this:
So you seemingly asked a question to which the user attempted to answer with this:
And it's very fair I'm not getting your "Ok?" response, unless that user's answer wasn't in response to your question asking why Pete's campaign put money into the app, but the accusation that you were ignoring the staff post and spreading rumors as this user stated:
Which if that's the case, can you expand more on the "Ok?" response because it just seems unnecessarily dismissive of the user who attempted to answer your question.
Edit: I see you posted again after I wrote my response. Nevermind.
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