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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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folks are already clutching at straws and the first vote hasn't even been cast....
I know the Republicans would lie and cheat, that is pretty evident, I don't mean to suggest otherwise. I'm just thinking Sanders would overcome the College scandal accusations better than Biden having to overcome the Hunter/Burisma scandal.
Donated $27 to Bernie, gotta help pick up the slack since he's caught in those impeachment trial hearings
Btw was a avid Beto supporter before, and I feel that Bernie is the best bet to not only generate excitement but also bring the authenticity we desperately need in Washington from Democrats.
Btw was a avid Beto supporter before, and I feel that Bernie is the best bet to not only generate excitement but also bring the authenticity we desperately need in Washington from Democrats.
Had Warren been in Senate for that long, her voting record would certainly not be as consistent as Sanders, assuming she wasn't a Republican out of confusion before.
Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
If you have a massive crowd like this and manage to lose the primary. It exposes how flawed our system is and not just in the gerrymandering and electoral college.
Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
Definitely something you wouldn't see posted by a Tea Party supporter in 2014...
I'm so glad that moderate Democrats are willing to compromise and vote for the most popular candidate, Bernie, to make sure that we defeat Trump at all costs. It would be really ridiculous to demand everyone compromise and vote for some other candidate they don't actually support while trying to sabotage Bernies nomination or somehow be by default supporting fascism. But thats silly and would never happen thankfully.
And destroy the rights of the LGBTQA, women and many other minorities with it. Great work. This post shows the privilege that Menaker and you hold.Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
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I'm pretty bummed about the poll today. This was our last one, wasn't it? No others today?
I guess we'll know tomorrow either way but the final poll is pretty influential, right? I suppose it will be interesting to see who wins without actually knowing who Is supposed to have the last-day lead.
I guess we'll know tomorrow either way but the final poll is pretty influential, right? I suppose it will be interesting to see who wins without actually knowing who Is supposed to have the last-day lead.
Thank you! Some people here lack any imagination. Bernie gets people who otherwise would not vote, off their ass and to the booths. No Bernie, they sit out. It's that simple. It's no mystery why he's stood out amongst the pack these last 5 years. If your favorite politician is too weak to inspire the jaded and disinterested, don't take that out on Bernie lol.
The Bernie or Bust thing is way over hyped and that crowd is a tiny part of the base. It's a deflection started by losers when they fail to attain the presidency they assumed was their birthright.
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It's a damn shame so many minds are being shaped by these idiots.Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
I mean honestly. be grateful some of these people are registering as dems at all
Large crowds don't mean much on their own except that the candidate has avid supporters. Look at pics of Ron Paul's rallies from 2012 and you'll see that he also drew big crowds.
Off topic, but Ron Paul did surprisingly well in Iowa! Imagine if he managed to win*. Or maybe don't!
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If dems dont want the whole country to slide into reactionary backwardness that will doom in blood all unpriviledged peoples when a competent, sane Trump takes office after another mediocre corporatist president that only tells trans people to "learn to code" to pay for their treatments, then they better elect Bernie. This is the last off ramp before the apocalypse.
Now you're just making shit up. When did Biden tell Tran people to learn to code??
Sorry, but if you're not Black in America, one of the few groups that vote blue all the way, I'm not sure why you think it's obvious...
So who exactly are you referring to when you say "learn to code"? I thought byou were referring to when Biden said that to coal miners. If I'm way off, then I apologize
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I'm black in America? What I meant by my post was for the rest of the world Bernie was the obvious choice in '16. They collectively wondered wtf was wrong with Americans for letting it get to Trump/Clinton.
I truly don't get the love for moderates, especially from the millennial crowd. The country has been bleeding for over a decade and folks get excited for politicians who drink from the same well as Republicans?
I'm voting Blue either way but I'm confused on what the hell a Biden presidency would look like. President Bernie or Liz would give me hope, Biden is just hashtag notTrump.
Dude I agree with you. But at the end of the day you're voting blue. I just have a real gripe with the people who are comfortably Bernie or bust.
I'm excited to caucus on Monday but I'm also dreading it cause it was such a shitshow when I went in 2016 and this time there's 4x as many candidates. Caucuses are such a weird inefficient process for something so important.
It's pretty simple actually. Biden represents a reset. A return to normal. A relief to the exhaustion that is Trump.
A majority of Americans are just exhausted with what Trump is and has brought to our everyday lives.
If you read the fucking quote you'd understand the underlying premise is if bernie gets rat fucked. Because if the DNC ignores a bernie sanders popular result and gives it to bloomberg or biden there will be fucking hell to pay and rightfully so.
When it comes to Iowa caucus the large crowds matter.
Buttigieig is going to overperform in Iowa based on his own crowd size as well.
If you have more supporters, and they vote, you'll win. If he loses the primary, it's because he has fewer supporters, they didn't vote, or both.
It's really as simple as that.
Steyer is alright. I wouldn't mind if he won unlike Joe or Pete, let alone Mike.
I'm a fan of the show, but I'm 100% with you on this. Even the most conservative, establishment friendly Dem is worth voting for at this point in time, without question.
@postandcourier/@ChangePolls SC 2020 poll:
@JoeBiden 25%
@BernieSanders 20%
@TomSteyer 18%
@ewarren 11%
@PeteButtigieg 7%
@TulsiGabbard 3%
@AndrewYang 3%
Not Sure 10%
As long as Sanders is within a reasonable gap with Biden in SC, he should be in great shape.
Yeah lol. I will vote for Joe if he wins the primary but I think that return to normal mentality is a mistake. The far right wants Trump, worse comes to worse they can regroup better under Biden.
I think one of the biggest mistakes from the next Dem president will be not fighting White nationalism with the fervor needed to combat it. Joe already considers Republicans his homeys and his troublesome views on Black people guarantee he won't take the White extremists seriously.
What is their reputation/track record? I looked back at 2016 and 2008 primary polling and they didn't have any polls.
I just checked 538, Change Research gets a C. I'll wait to see other polling.
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Oh no I am so confused. Centrists have been telling me for 4 years now that Black people absolutely H.A.T.E. Bernie Sanders! Criss cross applesauce what's going on? /s
Steyer is getting more black support than Bernie in this poll. Would not take this poll seriously though. Change Research sucks. Biden going to beat Bernie and everyone else like a drum in SC.
Cult-like white privilege shit.Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
How things play out online and offline with politics is surprising. Hot 97s The Breakfast Club has been interviewing candidates all last year, with Charlemagne tha God asking each one what their agenda for Black America is. Fast forward to this year and Charlemagne endorses.... Mayor Pete?? Lol why? How do you get to that conclusion? I feel like we read up on so much shit online that the tv media doesn't touch.
That's disappointing, it's going to come back to haunt them. The old heads should listen to our Black millenials with the Bernie support. "They say the child shall lead..."
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"Vote for Bernie or we shoot the hostage, the hostage here being American democracy and every poor and underpriveleged person who lives in it."Will Menaker put it succinctly a few days ago: No unity without fealty, no compromise.
Wow, this is an aggressively garbage take, from what seems to be an aggresssively garbage person. I hadn't heard of Menakar before, but this is not a great first impression.
I get that there's a game theory argument to be made here. Madman theory stuff. Say that you're too crazy to be moderated and people will just have to give you what you want, right? But the thing about that is that stakes are that if people followed this advice, it would directly contribute to the election of Donald Trump. I know that a lot of people think of Biden as Republican Lite. I know that a lot of people think of Bloomberg as a Republican, because, make no mistake, he is one. Despite that. Donald Trump remaining in office is a unique moral hazard, and honestly, I have no respect for people who try to play games around whether or not it's worth fighting against.
None.
Sigh. To toss in an amelrioating note... I get that for some people, it doesn't matter as much. There's room for principled nonvoting if you live in a safe blue state, to an extent (though if you're in a swing district it still hurts things). I think that the effect on the national discourse isn't great, but there's a discussion to be had there. But if somebody's doing this for points, or out of political ambition... no.
Everytime Bernie loses, his base think he was rat fucked. Do you realize that?
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