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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)

Who's Going to Win South Carolina?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 585 39.2%

  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 853 57.2%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 24 1.6%

  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 7 0.5%

  • THE KLOBBERER

    Votes: 16 1.1%

  • Tom Steyer

    Votes: 6 0.4%
  • Total voters
    1,491
  • Poll closed .
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Why do Americans release the results of their elections before everyone's done voting? You're only giving rags like MSNBC ammo to push whatever narrative they want. Klob is not happening, but they're influencing the vote nonetheless with those headlines.

How well a candidate performs should be completely unknown until the end. Ideally, polls wouldn't even be a thing.
 
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Kilrogg said:
Why do Americans release the results of their elections before everyone's done voting? You're only giving rags like MSNBC ammo to push whatever narrative they want. Klob is not happening, but they're influencing the vote nonetheless with those headlines.

How well a candidate performs should be completely unknown until the end. Ideally, polls wouldn't even be a thing.
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Because we love spectacle.
 
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Kilrogg said:
Why do Americans release the results of their elections before everyone's done voting? You're only giving rags like MSNBC ammo to push whatever narrative they want. Klob is not happening, but they're influencing the vote nonetheless with those headlines.

How well a candidate performs should be completely unknown until the end. Ideally, polls wouldn't even be a thing.
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This is a long standing New Hampshire tradition. The towns in question are so small they can do their entire vote in an hour. It doesn't actually matter in the big scheme of things - the press talk about it for a few hours but it's totally irrelevant for the final result.
 
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Surfinn said:
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Klob wins
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Lol. Actual trolling to have the headlines read like that.

The spectacle of US news is hilarious and sad at the same time.
 
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I'm wondering if as a SC voter I should give my vote to Warren or Sanders. As in who between the two of them needs my vote more. Guess it depends on polls and the delegate rules of SC.
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Logistically at this point probably Bernie (I say this as a frequent canvasser for Warren in Iowa), but Warren would probably give her delegates to Bernie at the convention if it came to that, so I'd factor that in.
 

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Maledict said:
This is a long standing New Hampshire tradition. The towns in question are so small they can do their entire vote in an hour. It doesn't actually matter in the big scheme of things - the press talk about it for a few hours but it's totally irrelevant for the final result.
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Didn't know that, thank you for the information.

I still think it's a bit ridiculous. Will that be going on throughout the day? Or is it just for the first few towns?
 
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Kilrogg said:
Why do Americans release the results of their elections before everyone's done voting? You're only giving rags like MSNBC ammo to push whatever narrative they want. Klob is not happening, but they're influencing the vote nonetheless with those headlines.

How well a candidate performs should be completely unknown until the end. Ideally, polls wouldn't even be a thing.
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I'm fully with you on this.

YaBish said:
Logistically at this point probably Bernie (I say this as a frequent canvasser for Warren in Iowa), but Warren would probably give her delegates to Bernie at the convention if it came to that, so I'd factor that in.
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Actually that is helpful. So I guess if I can help push Warren over 15% in my district (or state-wide) I should probably vote for her?
 
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Didn't know that, thank you for the information.

I still think it's a bit ridiculous. Will that be going on throughout the day? Or is it just for the first few towns?
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it's literally just the handful of votes from the 3 tiny towns that vote at midnight. everything else waits until the polls close. (were there this many complaints about the tradition last time when bernie won 100% of the four votes cast in the democratic primary in dixville notch? :p)
 
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Yeah, I feel we should lay off the media conspiracy bits about these early towns. This is literally every NH primary.
 
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Bernie leading in national polls amongst independents.

Horrible poll for Trump.
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Did not expect Bernie to top with independents. This is good. Also his Black support seems to have increased as well, though the real ping pong is between Bloomberg and Biden.

But Bloombergs racist comments have to look real shitty to minority voters; will they hear about it though under the blanket of the Bloomberg controlled airwaves?

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Just got an email from Morning Consult with their new numbers:

Bernie - 25
Biden - 22
Bloomberg - 17
Pete - 11
Warren - 11

Black voters:
Biden - 35
Bernie - 27
Bloomberg - 16
Warren - 8
Pete - 4

https://morningconsult.com/2020-dem...ta&utm_campaign=Weekly_Political_Intelligence
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The "2nd choice" data is fascinating. Quite a mixture there. For Biden supporters, the second choice is pretty evenly split between Sanders and Bloomberg. So I would expect to see a bit of a surge for Bernie as well if/when Biden falters.

Bernies favorability is also the highest of the group.
 
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Bernie Sweeping the hispanic vote pretty handily here.

Bernie - 38%
Biden - 17%
Bloomberg - 16%

Also, I find amusing that voters that identify as "Moderate" have pretty much the exact same breakdown as voters that identify as "Conservative."
 
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As someone who still hasn't run into a Bloomberg ad other than the Super Bowl, I'm conceptually aware its because he is running ads everywhere and its what is elevating him but I'm still baffled at how something like that would work.
 
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As someone who still hasn't run into a Bloomberg ad other than the Super Bowl, I'm conceptually aware its because he is running ads everywhere and its what is elevating him but I'm still baffled at how something like that would work.
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I think the ads help, but Steyer has spent an insane amount and can't crack low single digits....

Other campaigns need to get him in a setting where they can contrast.
 
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I think the ads help, but Steyer has spent an insane amount and can't crack low single digits....

Other campaigns need to get him in a setting where they can contrast.
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Bloomberg's ads are pretty good with a catchy slogan and he has a much better resume on paper than Steyer and name ID nationally from being NYC mayor. Plus he's positioned himself as the moderate in the race for Biden people to go to.

A couple of my relatives said they liked Bloomberg because they thought he could buy the election and beat Trump and that they didn't think anyone else could beat him.
 
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Did my civic duty. Hoping the margins are good for Bernie to keep up the momentum. Polling place was reasonably populated. Dodged a couple news casters. Pete, Trump, and Klob people staying the requisite distance from the polling location. Surprised I didn't see any Warren or Sanders folks, they were canvassing hard the last couple days.
 

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Experienced New Hampshire voters will see something quite familiar when they cast their primary ballots Tuesday: A vote-counting machine that hasn't changed in more than two decades.

The AccuVote optical reader has been part of Granite State elections since the early 1990s, when it was first accepted by the Secretary of State's office.

The software for the AccuVote reader runs on WindowsXP, an operating system that hasn't been supported by Microsoft since 2014, making it vulnerable to crashes. The machines themselves aren't made anymore, so the provider has to buy old ones and cannibalize them for parts when repairs are needed.
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Windows XP huh. What could go wrong

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Bladelaw said:
Did my civic duty. Hoping the margins are good for Bernie to keep up the momentum. Polling place was reasonably populated. Dodged a couple news casters. Pete, Trump, and Klob people staying the requisite distance from the polling location. Surprised I didn't see any Warren or Sanders folks, they were canvassing hard the last couple days.
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Why were there Trump people at the Democratic primary? Just looking to cause trouble?
 
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