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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Klobuchar might actually be loving this more than Biden or Bernie.
is New Hampshire results Monday night?
is New Hampshire results Monday night?
are you suggesting that we're NOT weirdly obsessive about ideological purity within generational barriers
I'm shocked, that's the bernard brethren I signed up for, it was on the flyer
The Primary is on Tuesday, and all polls should close by 8 pm Eastern. Barring any fuckups we should know the results a few hours later.
I followed the Iowa caucus closely and I think that was a bad idea, shit drove my anxiety out of control, especially once it became obvious the information was being delayed.
On Tuesday I might just get tacos and beer with friends and tune it out and hopefully come home to good news.
On Tuesday I might just get tacos and beer with friends and tune it out and hopefully come home to good news.
Thankfully, a primary should be far simpler than a caucus and we won't have to wait indefinitely for nebulous results.
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I'm setting myself up to be completely flabbergasted on Tuesday aren't I?
Lmao
When you have shitty people like Pete running, people are going to call them out.
I also hope you are going to call out Chris Matthews and the other pundits for smearing and fear mongering Bernie as a "socialist"
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yeah idk what that they meant because ive never hated people more than i hated in 2016. it was a rough time
2008 has someone 'carve' the letter 'B' on their face with their car keys and blame it on Obama loving 'thugs' but she got imediatley caught out because it was backwards.
"Wall St Pete" definitely rolls off the tongue more easily than "Ratfuck Pete"
Y'all need to pick your battles.
I'm shaken by the utter toxicity at display here by these Bernie bros. That poor, powerless man is just trying to sell you his vision of America and they are stepping on his freedom of speech. #Justice4Pete
smh at what Bernie has done to our #civil political discourse in which we can work across the aisle and respect each other's viewpoints.
wall street pete is an extremely good nickname, I'm sure we'll be hearing much more of it
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Yeah the people screaming to guarantee healthcare as a human right are definitely being influenced by the "trump effect" and not because they can't afford their medical bills.
Next thing you know they might be chanting "free Palestine" or something. What can we do, god damn trump effect.
If you're unhappy about the "Wall Street Pete" chant, maybe you should prepare yourself for what else he gets rightfully called out for. Shitty candidates are going to get called out for their shitty policies, positions and pasts.
I'll link this "stupid tweet"... read the entire tweet thread if you want to learn more about Pete:
Problem with Pete is you don't know what you are getting. Not only do I think he is the worse to go against Trump of the top 5, I don't think he would really advocate for even his public option. You have to select someone that you know will fight as hard as they can to get it through. Besides Bernie going for M4A (A long fight), Biden and Warren are the other two I trust to go heard for the public options. Biden sees it as an advancement from the ACA and Warren knows that the system needs to be more attainable for people.
It's actually insane how hard online lefties will go on anyone who threatens Bernie. The attacks on Kamala, Biden and Pete are ruthless. If Amy got anywhere close, she'd receive the same treatment.
Almost as if people are sick of the status quo and will criticize candidates who seek to continue business as usual.
Where is this? Looks like some kind of dystopian mad max thunderdome deal but without the dome
mayor pete playing the swarmy heel to absolute perfection. that was some mega heat lol. wall street pete is perfect
also i miss 2008
thisfuckingelection.com
also i miss 2008
This. Fucking. Election.
Tired of this fucking election, empty promises & never ending processes. Relax for a minute or two
The GOP isn't the only problem we're facing, we have the Neo Liberals that have been running this country for decades.
Biden, Kamala, Hillery and Pete are part of the problem that got us Bush and Trump by voting bipartisan and doing harm for us.
We can all cheer for Nancy ripping the SOTUS but has she addressed the homeless rate in San Francesco?
People are just sick of these politicians
Biden, Kamala, Hillery and Pete are part of the problem that got us Bush and Trump by voting bipartisan and doing harm for us.
We can all cheer for Nancy ripping the SOTUS but has she addressed the homeless rate in San Francesco?
People are just sick of these politicians
f your candidate is getting called out, maybe consider the problem could be the candidate rather than the people bringing attention to their problems
i'm getting powerful "no it's the children who are wrong" energy from some of these posts
i'm getting powerful "no it's the children who are wrong" energy from some of these posts
*Reads about Pete*
Totally deserved
Paraphrasing something I saw on an opinion piece about him:
Let's see how the media reports it. I won't get my hopes up because we all know at this point.
Wall Street Pete is really good. We've been hearing for a while about how x candidate isn't vetted or would lose to Trump, but the past 48 hours show this is especially the case with Pete. It feels like every hour since the debate there's been a new story about something awful or weird he's done, and now he has a good nickname. Imagine what Trump and his fan-base could do with "Wall Street Pete".
These leftist are attacking candidates that represent the billionaire class that have been waging a war against the working class, killing tens of thousands every year by denying them healthcare, terrorizing millions using police and are literally destroying the only habitable planet that humans have access to.
What's insane is how restrained these attacks have been considering what is at stake.
Which would be like one of the worst things he could do.
Because Nina Turner being an illness or whatever away from being President is very not good
I mean, I'd buy that if they didn't also toss that vitriol at Warren, who certainly isn't any of those things. So weird!
Hey good morning I hate this thanks.
Let me get this straight (assuming this is all true): they delayed the final results under the pretense that they wanted to examine inconsistencies and correct errors first, but now they're saying they won't adjust the results for the corrected data anyway. Am I right?
Honestly, I don't even care to draw a distinction between incompetence, corruption, bias and conspiracy anymore. Whatever this is, it's a complete clusterfuck that allows false narratives about who won to continue, and makes the entire party look like buffoons who can't be trusted with the simplest tasks. It's unacceptable.
What doesn't add up is that they say they're taking until Monday to correct errors as reported by campaigns but according to this internal e-mail they can't/won't correct the errors. Is it because the guy reporting them doesn't represent a campaign?
This is all so braindead.
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So, my understanding is that it's like this:
They cannot, legally, change the caucus results as tabulated by the precinct captains absent a full recanvass. They asked for inconsistencies to ensure that their transcription of those results was without error, but they cannot alter the reported totals. Even to fix the math. This is because the Iowa Caucuses are an insane system designed by crazy people more than it is corruption, bias, conspiracy, or even incompetence in this specific case. As far as I know, that rule predates even the notion of anybody currently in the race running for president aside from maybe Joe Biden because damn he's been doing it for a while. The math is bad because caucuses are mostly entirely run by volunteers to keep the costs down. Guarantee you that even aside from the tabulation errors, there's a lot of places out there that just didn't run the process right in the first place. I've seen reports of people leaving without submitting their cards to their voters weren't counted, precincts where they didn't even do the second alignment, ones where they let people from groups that passed the 15% threshold switch around 'cause that's actually a new rule... there are errors all up and down this thing.
Basically the Iowa Caucuses have always been bad, and it's just now that people outside of political nerds are seeing that. Should just toss caucuses into the sea. We got rid of most of them after 2016 (ty Perez) but ofc of the 3 remaining, 2 are in the first 4 states, and one went first.
So they want people to report errors so that in the event of a recanvass they can fix those errors. Is that right?
So unless someone asks for a recount, the errors are canon?
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