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Who's Going to Win South Carolina?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 585 39.2%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 853 57.2%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 24 1.6%
  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 7 0.5%
  • THE KLOBBERER

    Votes: 16 1.1%
  • Tom Steyer

    Votes: 6 0.4%

  • Total voters
    1,491
  • Poll closed .
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I think Bernie still has super tuesday tbh. SC was a glimpse into a 2020 race without Bloomberg. When Bloomberg gets in involved it only drags Biden down with him
 

Bad_Boy

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He's genuine and truly believes in the policies he's trying to push. I also believe healthcare is a human right, not something that should bankrupt you should you become ill. I read earlier today that over half of cancer patients lose their entire life savings during their fight with cancer. That's abhorrent and I can't believe how any decent human finds that acceptable(they aren't decent).

I fully support free college tuition at public universities and trade schools. We are well past the time when a high school education was all you needed to get a good job and making a good living for your family. More than $15 minimum wage, getting people educated and giving them the skills for jobs of today/tomorrow will do more to improve their lives than anything else. If we can blow up the military budget by over $100 billion, why can't we make make public universities free? The estimated costs range up to $120 billion, that's easily attainable with a small tax increase on the wealthy and returning the military budget to reasonable levels.

I also appreciate his view and stance on the broken and very racist criminal justice system. And his strong stance against racism and hatred for minorities in general. This is honestly the most important reason I back Bernie, because I believe he will do the most to fight white supremacy and root out the scourge from our justice system and government.

Biden will do none of these things.
Pretty much this.

And im a military vet with pain in my legs and sleeping issues. Id rather rely on medical marijuana than prescription pills for the rest of my life. Bernie and warren are the only ones ive seen who plan on legalizing. Biden's ,"lets study it" is not good enough when you have other states already legal with no issues.
 

ZSaberLink

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I think the decade or so of Democratic losses from 2010 - 2018 really caused our bench of candidates to be... lacking

There seems to be this hole in the middle of either fresh into congress people who have no business running for president, and long time politicians who are so old and embedded into the system that they weathered the losses and are still around. There aren't really too many potential candidates who have been in congress for a few years, aren't particularly old, and have records that are short enough to show they have records without being so long that they have some unsavory votes they had to make at the time.
Yup... I kind of wish that we hadn't used Obama already in 2008, as he's like exactly the right age for this stuff and has the right charm & charisma. Klobuchar is probably the closest in terms of that middle age / experience, but she just doesn't have the national presence and all.
 
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I for one, would love that GoFundMe continue to be one of the top sources of healthcare funding in the US. Certainly a great path to be on where no systemic changes in the industry are needed. Just more little increments. That'll do it.

It's hilarious that this is even a thing.

I got myself a heavy cut from a mandolin slicer on Monday. I was in and out of the hospital within an hour without anyone asking me to pay anything. This is in Australia.

The fact you have to go to the ER praying to god that insurance isn't going to fuck you is amazing.
 

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Yup... I kind of wish that we hadn't used Obama already in 2008, as he's like exactly the right age for this stuff and has the right charm & charisma. Klobuchar is probably the closest in terms of that middle age / experience, but she just doesn't have the national presence and all.
Also Klobuchar is a staff abuser with a pretty poor political history 🤷‍♂️
 

ned_ballad

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Yup... I kind of wish that we hadn't used Obama already in 2008, as he's like exactly the right age for this stuff and has the right charm & charisma. Klobuchar is probably the closest in terms of that middle age / experience, but she just doesn't have the national presence and all.
It really is a shame that Republicans can win the presidency with any idiot, but the Democrats have to constantly find superstars with perfect records to even stand a chance...

The electoral college is a joke of a bygone era to protect rich white slave owners.
 

Rats

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It's hilarious that this is even a thing.

I got myself a heavy cut from a mandolin slicer on Monday. I was in and out of the hospital within an hour without anyone asking me to pay anything. This is in Australia.

The fact you have to go to the ER praying to god that insurance isn't going to fuck you is amazing.
I've had health insurance all my adult life and don't go to the doctor for fear of what it might cost me.
 

RockGun90

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i have literally lived my entire life in alabama, so please don't try and lecture me about south carolina and the culture of the southern states. it's also, like, maybe not a great sign for the revolution that you're balking at the idea of leftist organizers working to build solidarity and political infrastructure in the rural south? it's very "better things aren't possible, but from the left" imo.
You were literally arguing that we should organize a leftist movement across an entire state within the span of an election. This shit takes time, which is why Bernie lost in 2016, but is a potential frontrunner now.
 

gutter_trash

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BidenHarris2020 is trending lol.

The KHive will never move on.
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we will finally get Harris as President :)
 

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BidenHarris2020 is trending lol.

The KHive will never move on.
To be fair I do think she has a decent chance of being his VP if he wins
I think the Hunter Biden story has more traction. All indication is that he's a failson of the highest order, even more so than the Trump children who have shown some savvy in terms of grifting.
The only reason they have success grifting is because their base is a bunch of morons and that's who they're pandering to.
 

GoldenEye 007

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It's hilarious that this is even a thing.

I got myself a heavy cut from a mandolin slicer on Monday. I was in and out of the hospital within an hour without anyone asking me to pay anything. This is in Australia.

The fact you have to go to the ER praying to god that insurance isn't going to fuck you is amazing.
US is land of short-term thinking and "fuck you, got mine." Hard to break I guess. But it's still early. Tuesday will be very interesting.
 

Tfritz

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You were literally arguing that we should organize a leftist movement across an entire state within the span of an election. This shit takes time, which is why Bernie lost in 2016, but is a potential frontrunner now.

i said nothing about doing it "within the span of an election" though? i was suggesting the leftist organizers should organize leftistry in south carolina and that will help leftists gain traction. organizing, and building political infrastructure is a good thing, that leftists should be attempting across the country, and i don't really see why y'all are pushing back on this?
 

RockGun90

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I think Bernie still has super tuesday tbh. SC was a glimpse into a 2020 race without Bloomberg. When Bloomberg gets in involved it only drags Biden down with him
Agreed.

That being said, I'm not looking forward to all the "BERNIE IS FINISHED!" takes were about to get, especially after everyone was bending over backwards to explain how, "actually third place is the bigger story" before this.
 

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Gonna miss Tom Steyer. Legitimately appreciate him (and Yang, for that matter) for sticking around long enough to force certain concepts (reparations, UBI) into the national conversation.
 

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Out of curiosity- who is your second preferred candidate?
I don't really have one.

I like Sanders's policies best by far (giant side eye on his history with gun control legislation aside) but I think he's generally terrible, frequently tone deaf and his cabinet would be a shit show of very problematic sycophants. I think he could easily tank a general and I cringe thinking about right wing attack lines on him and how easily he would play into those. If he somehow wins, I imagine a gigantic wipeout and an R trifecta in 24.

As a former New Yorker during his tenure, I fucking despise Bloomberg. He's the only candidate where I think I just couldn't do it if he got the nom (although I'm in CA, so that is something of a luxury. If I were in a swing state that would be a tough negotiation).

I don't really like Biden or his problematic past or naive takes on Republicans but I am wondering again if the people who really show up to vote would just make it overwhelming and get us the senate.

I just can't with Pete.

I don't like Amy.

I would have said Steyer I guess before tonight.

If/ when Warren goes, I'll probably not support anyone until the general. And I guess a VP could really change my mind with Sanders or Biden.
 

Bad_Boy

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You know what i hate?

Everybody saying trump will eat at everyone during the GE. Saying bernie is a socialist. Biden and hunter. Warren and pocahontas, etc.

But the last 3 years we have plenty of ammo for anything trump does. I'm not even talking the russia stuff. The guy is legitimately a shit stain with plenty of dirt to bring up.

Like how would trump respond if biden or bernie is just like... "well you cheated on your pregnant wife", "sexually assaulted women", "you were good friends with epstein", "you ran a fake charity", "you release your taxes yet?" "you take european grade sudafed just to make it through your speeches", "you had kids dying in cages", "all of your friends you hired went to jail or quit", "mexico didnt pay for a wall"... the list goes on.

Like if any of that gets said during a debate, when the world is watching, would be gold... repeated on the media for days.
 
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The only reason they have success grifting is because their base is a bunch of morons and that's who they're pandering to.

While there's a huge element of truth in that, that still requires some degree of skill. They've shown some evidence of independence.

Hunter's employment history is filled with his dad standing both feet on the scales, perhaps with political motives considering the timings of when he gets employed and when he leaves, and bailing him out whenever he got himself into trouble. Not that we should be making light of substance abuse but he'd be in a whole world of shit if he wasn't Biden's child.

I don't see any way for Biden to deflect from this.
 

Mr. RPG

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This race could be over on Super Tuesday. Why? Here's my take:

Because either Bernie will run up the margin in California and have a massive lead in delegates on Super Tuesday or he'll be barely above in the delegate lead in which case I think Biden will almost certainly take over on March 17 (that's when Florida and Ohio votes) and become the nominee.
 

Tfritz

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This race could be over on Super Tuesday. Why? Here's my take:

Because either Bernie will run up the margin in California and have a massive lead in delegates on Super Tuesday or he'll be barely above in the delegate lead in which case I think Biden will almost certainly take over on March 17 (that's when Florida and Ohio votes) and become the nominee.

the race will be over on Super Tuesday, when The Klobucharge occurs
 

Hudsoniscool

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User Banned (Permanent): Misogynistic and Transphobic Rhetoric Over Multiple Posts; Prior Severe Bans for Similar Behavior
If you don't mind my asking, why are you a republican?
Sure. Let me tell you about myself. Im 25, married, 3 kids. I'm a union hvac worker in California. Make 90k a year taxable income. Wife has to stay home with the kiddos. So I guess I could be considered middle class. But living in California 90k with house of 5 probably puts be on the bottom of middle class. In aiddition to my killer union retirement I personally stock trade through my IRA's. I plan on retiring by 50 hopefully sooner.

1) I don't believe in illegal immigrantion. Im all for LEGAL immigrantion. Heck they could very well double their legal immigrants and I'd be happy with that. But I don't think someone should just be able to come over without repercussions. I have plenty of friends of immigranted from the Ukraine in the early 90's, as well as friends from Asia who immigrated. Do it the right way or not at all.
2) I don't believe in a 20$/hr minimum wage. I think minimum wage isn't designed to be a living wage. It's designed to be a starting wage. It's for young people/people drawing social security. And it's there to start trainees. I think there are plenty of jobs that are hard out there that pay more. But people don't want them. Lots of work in construction but no one wants to do it. I also don't think tipped workers should make 20/hr. It's crazy that a waitress can make 15/hr in tips that arnt taxed and then complain that they want 20/hr. Why on earth should I or millions of other people who work so damn hard doing nasty dirty work continue to do it when we could make just as much doing easy, gravy work. I'm not heartless either I want everyone to be able to feed their family's but I don't buy into this thinking that there isn't better paying jobs out there. There are but they either are hard physically/mentally/ or require a lot of training. Heck my job had a 5 year apprenticeship where pay was really bad in the beginning.
3) I believe in free markets. I don't think billionaires are necessarily bad people. They mostly became rich by selling something. Which means citizens had to willingly give them money. Which means normal everyday citizens paid them to make their lives better.
4) I don't believe in socialism. I thinks it's crippled every country that adopted it. Denmark imo isn't one. I mean hello don't they have a free market.
5) I believe in less government not more. Government is bloated. They do everything for more. Wasteful.
6) abortion. I believe in "my body my rights". But when the baby can feel pain I think they now have rights. So I'm fine with aborting till around around 14-16 weeks. My baby was born at 22 weeks and I think that's way too pay to abort. If you get rapped the government should give free pregnancy tests/ultrasounds so to detect the baby before the cut off date for abortions. Then they should pay for it ONLY if rapped.
7) I don't believe in free handouts. I believe in hard work. This one is big.
8) I don't think college should be free. I'm 25 so I know tons of young people who went to/going to college. I a huge amount just do it to party/not work. They spin aimlessly with no major or major in a fantasy area that won't get hem employeed. I don't want to pay for that.
9) free speech. I shouldn't be forced to use pronouns though I absolutely would if someone asked.
10) guns. I believe in the second amendment. I don't believe in gun confiscation. I think that would result in law abiding citizens turning in their guns and criminals not. A CRIMINAL by definition is someone who doesn't follow the law.
11) climate change. I think our efforts should be to focus on carbon capture not zero emissions. Our country is small Co2 producer when considering the whole world. Develop the tech for the whole world to use

I'm not a racist. I think poor people should be able to get healthcare, especially poor children. I'm not sexist. I'm a working class American who loves loves his country. 8 years ago I considered myself a moderate. With beliefs like those I was but now I'm probably considered a far righter.

At my core I believe in capitalism.
 
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