I don't think Tulsi has much love from Bernie voters. Tbh she doesn't get a lot of love period. And rightfully so.
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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I mean, that sucks, but you're not going to get a VP who is 100% on the same page as the nominee for all beliefs. They follow the top of the ticket's lead though.
Clinton was friends with Epstein and Trump.
The Obama are close with Bush family. Michelle and George are soooo cute together omg
Obama's drone strikes took lots of innocent lives.
Hillary Clinton refused to entertain Saif Gaddafi's offer to transition Libya into a democracy.
They run in the same circles as Kissenger.
Duckworth will assuredly help any candidate win. I want to win.
This is legitimately the first post on this site about this topic I've seen, at least someone noticed. Been talking to my family constantly about this
also doesn't support Sanders from a cultural standpoint —
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...mocrats-ocasio-cortez-tammy-duckworth-midwest
The bigger threat might just be her saying no.
I implore people to watch 4 minutes of this (very long) video.
They make an honest criticism and case on what should be the upcoming strategy for Sanders -and his team- starting right now:
If the timestamp does not work, watch from 27:19 to 31:29
Essentially:
*Bernie and his coordinators need to start acting as the nominee. Seize Buttigieg latest strategy of "I'm the only sane/institutional person here, let's not fight among each others and focus on Trump".
*Switch the mood on the debates. Start openly inviting the rest of the candidates, to join him. Not pushing them, but giving the simplest argument: it's time, can't lose time on petty vendettas.
*Also, start turning back attacks from Bloomberg's camp to: Hey, if you really are serious on helping, start by doing xxx (like aiding the latino communities in Texas to register, etc)
*Have Sander's camp, start acting less reactionary online. No point in attacking the Beto's of the party, for old stuff. And instead have them start working for the cause.
*Start focusing more in Rural areas, putting forward proposals that he already have, but have not mentioned lately, like Rural hospitals. Buttigieg surpassed Bernie's effort on that front on Iowa; it can be done and will be needed.
I mean, sure: the establishment will try their darnest to stop his nomination. But his grassroot movement is already in motion. He needs to start changing the perception that he is against everyone, and try to press for unity.
If they still rebuke him, he at least can show the public that it wasn't because he was stubborn. Which will then put the onus on the top Democrats.
The remaining minutes are also interesting, because they talk about the new strategies Fox (and allegedly Trump) will start using against Sanders, where they will start twisting and attacking his integrity.
But the main points are contained in those 4 minutes. And I really believe it's Sander's best interest to pay attention to those ideas.
They make an honest criticism and case on what should be the upcoming strategy for Sanders -and his team- starting right now:
If the timestamp does not work, watch from 27:19 to 31:29
Essentially:
*Bernie and his coordinators need to start acting as the nominee. Seize Buttigieg latest strategy of "I'm the only sane/institutional person here, let's not fight among each others and focus on Trump".
*Switch the mood on the debates. Start openly inviting the rest of the candidates, to join him. Not pushing them, but giving the simplest argument: it's time, can't lose time on petty vendettas.
*Also, start turning back attacks from Bloomberg's camp to: Hey, if you really are serious on helping, start by doing xxx (like aiding the latino communities in Texas to register, etc)
*Have Sander's camp, start acting less reactionary online. No point in attacking the Beto's of the party, for old stuff. And instead have them start working for the cause.
*Start focusing more in Rural areas, putting forward proposals that he already have, but have not mentioned lately, like Rural hospitals. Buttigieg surpassed Bernie's effort on that front on Iowa; it can be done and will be needed.
I mean, sure: the establishment will try their darnest to stop his nomination. But his grassroot movement is already in motion. He needs to start changing the perception that he is against everyone, and try to press for unity.
If they still rebuke him, he at least can show the public that it wasn't because he was stubborn. Which will then put the onus on the top Democrats.
The remaining minutes are also interesting, because they talk about the new strategies Fox (and allegedly Trump) will start using against Sanders, where they will start twisting and attacking his integrity.
But the main points are contained in those 4 minutes. And I really believe it's Sander's best interest to pay attention to those ideas.
I don't think they were friends with Trump?
I'm so confused at what argument you're making. It's bad for Clinton associate with those people just like it's bad for a Turner to associate with those other bad people. Are you not just proving the point?
The only Bernie or Bust guy I (personally) knew last election is now a ride-or-die Tulsi fan, so there is some crossover somehow.
Her father was American, she's a natural born American citizen and is eligible.
One of her parents were American despite being born in Thailand, which makes her eligible like McCain.
I assume you think none of them were qualified for the offices they held then?
we're saying it's really easy to dig out a photo opp of two people together. it doesn't really prove anything one way or the other. i fully supported hillary in 2016
what's your opinion on the potential for IDW Publishing to do a Star Wars/My Little Pony crossover comic
Pretty good I would say
I would prefer Baldwin as a VP pick but she doesn't seem like a good public speaker and debater from what I've seen at all unfortunately
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I am glad we at Era can truly unite on the single most important issue that drives this forum together.
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Yeah it seems like she probably wouldn't go for it but someone like her would go a long way assuaging the fears of more moderate democrats should Sanders only get a plurality. Kinda like Pence helped Trump.
As one of Duckworth's constituents, idk why people want to make her happen. She's not going to happen. If Mark Kirk had not had his brain leaking out his ears, he probably could have beaten her.
Re: Turner, she's a great hype woman, but she's a bad choice for VP. If Warren didn't so evidently despise Bernie now (didn't even shake his hand at the last debate and is constantly shit-talking him), I'd say she was the clear choice, but now I'm not sure. Maybe Barbara Lee? He can't pick a moderate centrist, his entire brand rests on relative political purity. Sherrod Brown?
Re: Turner, she's a great hype woman, but she's a bad choice for VP. If Warren didn't so evidently despise Bernie now (didn't even shake his hand at the last debate and is constantly shit-talking him), I'd say she was the clear choice, but now I'm not sure. Maybe Barbara Lee? He can't pick a moderate centrist, his entire brand rests on relative political purity. Sherrod Brown?
If Warren isn't Sanders' VP pick, Duckworth would easily be my 2nd favorite. She's a pretty good speaker, and progressive enough to fit with Sanders' ticket. Plus we have a Democratic governor presently, so no risk of losing her Senate seat to a Republican appointment.
Tammy Baldwin seems like she would be a good pick, a lot of overlap with Bernies policies and she's 20 years younger too.
Probably because she checks a lot of on-paper boxes and the only time a non constituent had seen her is in some great tear down video or something, so people only see the upside and none of the downside until she's more vetted nation-wide.
If you wanna lose the senate, sure.
Sanders running mates will be Ben & Jerry of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream fame. This will help him shore up his performance in Vermont.
I don't think so. I think it's just a special election and the timing depends on when she would leave. Democrats would get thumped in a special election. They would absolutely 100% lose.
Any Jill Stein hype person or close bud of Tulsi has got to be a gem.
So because she has been associated with Tulsi in some capacity, this disqualifies her from being a decent person, in your eyes?
All of them have extremely problematic associations & actions under their belts yet brought an array of accomplishments to the table. I'm glad none of them are running now (though I do wish Michelle Obama had not normalized Bush and would strike out as a progressive politician herself). I hope this snuggling up to trash is something we won't see as much in the future as the internet is in a constant state of vetting people and their histories.
Turner is problematic but brings nothing to the table aside from being a hype person. That she was a Jill Stein supporter in '16 when it mattered most and that she doubled down on keeping a MAGA staffer shows that she's a really bad choice for VP imo. Especially with candidates like Duckworth around.
Couldn't find a quick answer - is VP decided and announced before, during, or after the convention?
It's a good strategy for after Super Tuesday. I think it would feel off brand for Bernie to assume the nomination after only three States have had primary.
Hmm, general question for everyone, would Bernie pick a moderate VP as a compromise if going into the convention things are poised to be contentious?
though with a potential contested convention, it might be interesting.
If you end up with a brokered convention, deals will be made and the VP choice will likely reflect that.
Bernie VP just needs to be someone that makes the CIA want to put away the heart attack gun for fear of someone even more left-wing assuming the presidency.
Dennis Kucinich it is!
Dennis Kucinich it is!
We virtually would be crossing off everyone from this list with the criteria being applied to Turner here.
Faiz Shakir (Bernie's Campaign Manager, former editor of Think Progress, Political Director of ACLU and staff for Reid and Pelosi) should almost unquestionably be Bernie's Chief of Staff
He knows Washington, is friendly with many of the people there, knows the ins and outs of how the sausage is made, is well liked by many, and is a policy wonk. All while holding to Bernie's ideals.
I mean it's such a no brainer I'd be shocked if it was someone else
He knows Washington, is friendly with many of the people there, knows the ins and outs of how the sausage is made, is well liked by many, and is a policy wonk. All while holding to Bernie's ideals.
I mean it's such a no brainer I'd be shocked if it was someone else
Ayanna checks all the boxes for me. A young black progressive woman is exactly the right pick IMO.
Bernie's going to pick a sycophant. Warren would be great, but she offended him so doubt it. No point in a moderate as that'll likely be the nominee after he term.
Tulsi would make me laugh. But very on brand.
Tulsi would make me laugh. But very on brand.
VP really is a nothing position. Their most important role is to "balance the ticket".
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