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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Pete and Klobchar are gonna drop off severely from here on out. THey spent most of their time trying to find a way to piggy bank off of the first two states but it wont be enough
lol ffs
At least this is on brand for Pete. What a shameful mess
I've been through this over and over in this thread but I do not believe those numbers would hold once the red scare campaign against Bernie starts in the fall. Florida would be an automatic loss with all of the older Jews and Cubans so we're talking about an extremely narrow lane to win an EC victory. We would have to hold everything and run the table in WI, MI, and PA (and in the latter the fracking industry will go hard against Bernie).
I would love to be proven wrong, but that is my assessment.
I saw that. That is a bit suspect but it read to me she was doing a lot of the work personally. Its working more like a consulting firm that gives money to candidates so i think the salary is okish to me.
I read all of the links.
They are picky i will say that and you can question the "long shot" candidates she is working with but its not shady. Shady would be giving out money but then having the candidates funnel the money back through a secret pac that pays her. Here, you can see everything. You can see exactly how much money she is making and how much she is giving out in return. Nothing really speaks to it being shady.
Oh, that last part is something... if the tweet from the burner happened after the tweet from the main account, that could be reasonably thought of as the person with the burner quickly matching the main to seem more suspicious. But it was the other way around, lmao.
I guess we'll disagree on what qualifies calling a PAC shady then.
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You've made it pretty clear how excited you are to vote for a racist "all live matters" cop supporter. He wil not win the nom, and will continue to have no POC support.
Because Lis Smith gives them unprecedented access to Pete. It's been noted how she'll accept basically anything for him.
That would be pretty good. And necessitate the abolishment of caucuses since 10% turnout is never gonna win.We should consider this:
That will favor conservative states with lots of voter suppression .We should consider this:
Edit: this is counterintuitive but turnout is measured with registered voters and voter suppression usually takes the form of forcing people off the registry.
Fox News has already called Buttigieg a socialist too. They've used "socialist" as a scare tactic for years against multiple Democrats. Bernie has shown time and time again he knows exactly how to address that scare, which he has done multiple times in interviews and in debates. I don't think it'll be any worse than it already is tbh, but who knows.
We should consider this:
Wouldn't this disadvantage larger states (who are also more diverse)?
See my edit but purging the rolls leads to lower numbers of registered voters which in turn increases turnout as a percentage of registered voters.
I mean, I'm not sure it would sink him, but someone actually agreeing with the thing in question makes an attack land more. Like, let me put it this way: Bernie has been attacked for having a superpac that he does not support. Buttigieg has called that getting shadow money. Would the attack of someone saying that a candidate gets shadow money land more on Buttigieg or Sanders?
Buttigieg has so little support from black and Latino voters that his campaign has been caught now, at least twice, manufacturing phony support. Dude is going to drop like a rock.
Isn't Warren, for instance, supposed to be very close to Sanders, politically and personally? Why would she refuse to cooperate in such a situation?
I don't get why its so hard for some people to just say Tulsi is bad. I want to like Krystal Ball, but if she can't even do that... then is she really worth listening to?
Have you been following the campaign? Warren has been going at Bernie for a while now.
How would you enforce this? States organize their own primaries and caucuses however they like. The US election is essentially 50 different elections (which in itself is a silly system).We should consider this:
I agree.
Her being paid money for her work and supporting "former trump voter richard ojeda" against a republican? Its not enough to hang your hat on.
Going on fox is not enough to call someone a grifter, especially just because you think they should have pushed back a bit harder on certain things, she didnt start spewing fox news talking points, she went on to talk about issues she wanted to discuss related to leftism.
Ball's insinuation is russia gate hysteria of the media compared to the dismissal of money itself influencing our democracy and someone like bloomberg being normalized by the media in turn is a perfectly reasonable criticism of the media and the DNC's handling of Russian bots.
You cant say the media focusing on russia hysteria, then mueller, then ukraine for years with it yielding absolutely zero over foreign interference when we have credible interference of democracy documented right now with corruption everywhere, its very two faced.
She didnt support Tulsi for president, she has supported Sanders and Warren for years. So whether she defended her from being called a russian asset by clinton shouldent concern anyone, and i myself dont really like tulsi at all
Her being paid money for her work and supporting "former trump voter richard ojeda" against a republican? Its not enough to hang your hat on.
Going on fox is not enough to call someone a grifter, especially just because you think they should have pushed back a bit harder on certain things, she didnt start spewing fox news talking points, she went on to talk about issues she wanted to discuss related to leftism.
Ball's insinuation is russia gate hysteria of the media compared to the dismissal of money itself influencing our democracy and someone like bloomberg being normalized by the media in turn is a perfectly reasonable criticism of the media and the DNC's handling of Russian bots.
You cant say the media focusing on russia hysteria, then mueller, then ukraine for years with it yielding absolutely zero over foreign interference when we have credible interference of democracy documented right now with corruption everywhere, its very two faced.
She didnt support Tulsi for president, she has supported Sanders and Warren for years. So whether she defended her from being called a russian asset by clinton shouldent concern anyone, and i myself dont really like tulsi at all
Warren has been siding up to Amy klobuchar, with her strategists telling her to back away from M4A and such....its really sad. To take the side of the culinary union leadership over the actual members who predictably split when they had to call out their leadership over their own support for M4A was just a huge mess, especially when we found out that center for american progress had connections to the leadership made it even more complicated
Presumably it would be an agreement with the states. The real issue is that once it has become clear who the nominee will be during some years and turnout for the remaining states flounders they'll miss out so it'd be a real pain to be one of the last states.
‘A complete disaster’: Fears grow over potential Nevada caucus malfunction
Volunteers complain of poor training for a vote-reporting system that was adopted on the fly.
www.politico.com
Lol, hoping that it wont be a mess next Saturday....
Yup, we give managers and CEOs shit for this all the time and that's in for-profit businesses, this is supposed to be an altruistic thing to help out Dem candidates across the country and she's taking in that high of a percentage? Nah, foh.
Oh its totally going to be a disaster‘A complete disaster’: Fears grow over potential Nevada caucus malfunction
Volunteers complain of poor training for a vote-reporting system that was adopted on the fly.
Lol, hoping that it wont be a mess next Saturday....
Well I don't like Tusli either tbh but maybe she sees some value is supporting her on some level. I think there are better progressive woman to support personally.
Bernie Sanders’s Biggest Test Yet With Latino Voters
The senator notched decisive victories with Latinos in Iowa and New Hampshire. Can he do it again in Nevada?
www.theatlantic.com
Bernie most popular among Latino voters to no one's surprise. How do white liberals not get why Bernie is so popular among minorities?
its gonna be 2016 all over again lol‘A complete disaster’: Fears grow over potential Nevada caucus malfunction
Volunteers complain of poor training for a vote-reporting system that was adopted on the fly.
Lol, hoping that it wont be a mess next Saturday....
Some progressives only see the media trashing her and get reflexive due to her primary issue being anti war. Because she left the DNC and went over to endorsing Bernie Sanders in 2016, she somehow unofficially became a progressive due putting her supposed signature issue as being anti intervention.
She never really earned it for me because she was never actually calling out money in politics or anything, it was always her service and hanging herself on being a single issue character. You cant be progressive with just a single issue especially when we find out your not as anti intervention as you claimed to be supporting torture and people like Mohdi despite the criticism he got.
Im willing to give her benefit of a doubt on evolving away from homophobia when she was younger but she just seems like a grifter to me that has played the progressive left defending her. What is she still doing in the race?
‘A complete disaster’: Fears grow over potential Nevada caucus malfunction
Volunteers complain of poor training for a vote-reporting system that was adopted on the fly.
Lol, hoping that it wont be a mess next Saturday....
Almost as if they should have scrapped the caucus after Iowa
To be fair completely revamping their election system in less than a month would have resulted in a much bigger clusterfuck.
Lmaooo
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Now that i'm thinking about it. It may have just been a refletive defense of someone she views as a progressive and nothing more than that. I don't view her that way. Her voting record before 2016 is suspect and she is basically a single issue candidate.
At least they seem to actually speak Spanish, not like Pete who just claims he speaks whatever language he spent 5 minutes on using Duolingo.
I'm hoping for at least some results next weekend.....I'm expecting a disaster. We should all expect it to be a disaster, and be gladly surprised when it possibly isn't!
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