Hu? Bernie has always been an independent. He changed parties to run for the Democratic nomination in 2015, changed back to an independent in between, and then switched back to a Democrat last year to run again for the nomination.
I'm sorry, you're not making any sense. Yes, I wish he wasn't running and instead blowing his money on supporting Dem candidates. But stating that he has the ability to run, like anyone else otherwise qualified for the office, does not mean that the DNC "and others" want to vote for him. It's just a statement of fact that he has the right to run if the very low qualifications are met.
The distinctions aren't always clear cut
If he does well at the first debate (which I'd be surprised to see, honestly) then the rest of the people on stage have failed. There's SO much to go after him on-- his racism, transphobia, his conservatism, his associations, his ill-gotten third term as mayor, his support of Bush, etc-- that if he does well on that stage then we have a weaker field than we thought. Warren and Sanders alone should be able to utterly dismantle him.
why did they change it? (don't say "duh because he donated to the DNC". you don't actually have any evidence the donation was what motivated the change vs them recognizing how ridiculous it is to exclude a person who is increasingly shooting up the polls higher than half the candidates on the stage)
Then you'll see a lot more people start to excuse his racism and sexism. "No, you see, the OTHER racist billionaire is bad. THIS one is fine."
Are the other people on stage not allowed to bring any of that up or
There is absolutely nothing disingenuous about what I'm saying.
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They can, but I don't know who actually would and to what degree.
i mean, he can definitely incorporate stuff that takes a jab at bloom in his usual speech. but yeah he cant pull some kamala bullshit for sure
Bloomberg literally is a republican running as a democrat. Bernie is a socdem (self defined) running as a democrat. I'm not arguing for time spent registered as a democrat or not. Bloomberg is a republican and as such should not be allowed to run on their ticket. People making it out like the process for discerning who and who couldnt run (or calling it authoritarianism lol) are not doing so in good faith (arguing openly that bloomberg is more of a democrat than bernie is also bad faith). Were not saying independents or non dems can't run. We are saying republicans pretending to be democrats for their own advantage to push their republican goals shouldnt be allowed to run. And that shouldnt be controversial to say.
I mean its really not hard to draw a line with bloomberg and the other people you listed. If the difference isn't clear I can direct you to his long history as a Republican mayor and positions hes espoused since that time.
yeah, this article just asserts that thing A happened and thing B happened later with nothing actually tying together the two actions. It's a classic post hoc fallacy to say that since B happened after A, B was influenced by A. The fact is you have no idea whether the money was what motivated them to change the rules and asserting that it obviously was is complicated by the fact that bloomberg is, unfortunately, doing quite well in polling and we had reports of *progressives* lobbying the DNC to change the rules because they felt excluding bloomberg from debates was letting him avoid scrutiny.Mike Bloomberg Gave the DNC $300K Two Days Before He Entered the 2020 Race
And now the DNC is changing its rules in a way very favorable to ... Mike Bloomberg.
Was this debunked?
Even if the moderators don't ask him, any competent candidate will. I think the moderators at minimum ask about stop and frisk. I don't think Epstein gets brought up by anyone.
Sure, all of this is will 100% happen, but I'm asking more about what happens if he artfully swats those criticisms aside or shows genuine contrition (or at least what viewers decide is genuine)?
any of the career politicians who he is trying to muscle out of their own game
If it makes you feel better he may have spent enough money on this run to not be a billionaire anymore.
He donated money and they changed rules months later. The connection is entirely conjecture.Mike Bloomberg Gave the DNC $300K Two Days Before He Entered the 2020 Race
And now the DNC is changing its rules in a way very favorable to ... Mike Bloomberg.
Was this debunked?
Edit because I just saw this
Why wouldn't I say this? He gave them 300,000 dollars, then they changed the rules in his favor.
Maybe. I wouldn't expect any of those mentions to be particularly scathing. Maybe from Warren since she has the personality and presence to pull it off and could benefit the most. But I don't expect any of these people to do anything to the degree many posters seem to want or expect.
Lol, not exactly wrong
maybe not but like the idea that stop and frisk won't be brought up seems unrealistic then we'll at least have an idea if he has a plan
Bloomberg was a Republican for six years, which ended 13 years ago.
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Not even a joke, just pure reality
Facts, the fact that some dems are entertaining this shows a lot.
