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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Are you saying just because both are women? I think you gotta give the electorate more credit than that, and even if that is so, the bottom line is he is still not getting those votes that should be lay-ups considering the vast overlap between Sanders and Warren on just about everything.
Sure, but you gotta be a politician about it. If they lose, you gotta position yourself to be the second choice. Otherwise, it will be other campaigns reaping the benefits. Don't spike the football, extend a hand.
Hah, I voted Bernie in 2016 and was thrilled to do so. I'd fight like hell once again for him in 2020.
This is fair. There's been a few calling her not a "real Progressive" and saying she's phony, but it's mostly fine here. It's more just the large-scale on Twitter/Facebook or anywhere else that "matters" that I see Sanders supporters being way more "combative" than others. Trust me, I'm not saying they don't have a point, but you gotta be appealing to peoples Grandma's and others that don't follow this nearly as closely and the name-calling and glee seems out wack when we are only 2 states in and you're going to be relying on those supporters to support your candidate.
The largest county ,where Sanders is leading, hasn't had any votes come in for a while now, I think Sanders only grows the lead.
Wait what? What if you don't have a car? And isn't it illegal not to have your car registered?
Seems like a disappointing performance for Sanders. Not bad per se, but not the clear victory you would have expected given his historical strength in the state.
They passed a new voter id law since 2016 which requires part time residents like students to do more to be able to register to vote. It's been a confusing mess because no one really understands what exactly you need to do. In theory the new law means nothing (it only changed four words from the old law) but in practice it may have totally blocked people from voting; it probably discouraged people from voting even if they weren't necessarily barred from voting.
I am in fact not a politician lol
Unless Bernie released a gloating statement that you're referring to and I missed
Conservative and moderate are not the same thing.
I'll say this again: if you actually go to something like On the Issues Dot Org, even the much-maligned Pete has incredibly progressive proposals and shares more in common with Bernie Sanders than he does with... I'm not even going to say Trump; I'll say Bill Weld, for the sake of argument.
I know it's trite to say stuff like "Amy is a Republican," but she's actually not.
I also fully understand stuff like Overton window and shifting political discourse, etc., but if you set aside the existential threat to democracy that Donald Trump represents (I know it's hard), the fact that a candidate like Pete is doing well is actually kind of great. I'm actually happy that self-identified moderate Democrats are comfortable with an openly gay man pushing for the expansion of health care and a voluntary weapons buyback, to name two random things.
No, he's not what you want, and I get that. Obviously, don't vote for him in the primary. But I still think it's a silver lining, and there's good reason not to be depressed.
Maybe registered in the state? I.e. no out of state cars?
Y'all know having had a heart attack isn't automatically terminal, right? And that Bernie is not only personally wealthy, but if he does become the President he'll have access to the best healthcare in the country.
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And I'm saying that many Warren voters supported her on a superficial level, I genuinely believe that Warren could have just been Chelsea Clinton and gotten the same support more or less.
Best updated I've seen
Live results for the New Hampshire Democratic primary
Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, and Amy Klobuchar are all surging ahead of the "first in the nation" primary.
www.vox.com
Im a Warren supporter and can confirm this is how I feel. If Warren isn't viable (I'm in Nevada), my second option is not Sanders. I don't know who it is, but I know it's not Bernie.
No worries. Bernie has a yuge lead in Nevada with Klobs not even on the list Butti was far below, plus we'll be getting into mixed voters instead of just white states
Best updated I've seen
Live results for the New Hampshire Democratic primary
Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, and Amy Klobuchar are all surging ahead of the "first in the nation" primary.
Thank you. Wow everyone else is waaay far behind.
With Yang dropping out and likely more to drop in the coming days I think things will be more stark.
That being said, I fully expect the Biden vote to surge into Pete's numbers. Warren and Yang's people, as well as new voters I think will be needed to help buoy Bernie as we get through more primaries. The wild card will be Klob depending on how long she stays in the race.
Eh, Vox is still further ahead on my end.
edit: ah, nevermind. It actually updated now.
Any candidate, except maybe Bloomberg, and possibly even him, would be the 3rd most economically liberal President in American history (and by far, the most socially liberal).
he's been neck and neck with Pete all week and a few had Pete ahead
Vox seems to have the same numbers but with actual reporting numbers broken down by county without have to create an account.
But Vox has a higher vote tally so far?
For example, 60,570 on Decision Desk vs 61,021 on Vox for Bernie.
538's tracker had him at 26% in the NH average and...he's at 26%.
So he's matching his polling exactly, which is still not great.
Oh fucking shit.
One, I don't like how he handled 2016. But most importantly, I don't think a self desribed socialist can win. The boomers will not vote for him.
Yeah, weird innit? Vox site even says it gets them from Decision Desk.
No they didn't. Did you watch the polls this week? Several had it right where it is or even Pete with a small lead.
thats an healthy perspective to have i think. Fortunately the progressive agenda is popular and as such, things will get better even if not ideal with a democrat in the white house. Unless its bloomberg, of course
Keeping buttigieg with a one delegate lead in the grand total.
Fucking Iowa.
I'm sure having Sanders supporters consistently shit talk Warren and every other Democrat has probably soured many of them on the idea of backing Sanders.
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