You kids act like young peoples mindsets stay the same as you age.
I'll do it for Slayven: People really, really, really, really, really hated Hillary.Bernie, unsurprisingly, is doing between 20-40 points worse in counties in the Panhandle than he did in 2016.
That is not good for Sanders in a Midwest stateAccording to the exit polls
Illinois
Biden 59.7
Sanders 34.4
Turnout by Age (change from 2016)
18-29 15 (-5)
65+ 29 (+7)
I'll do it for Slayven: People really, really, really, really, really hated Hillary.
do you actually want him to 'go away' and stay silent in the general or should he drop out and support biden
65+ are the most at risk from the virus and they still turned out more than the youth.
I really am shocked at the numbrs, it's wonder that hate didn't take physical formI'll do it for Slayven: People really, really, really, really, really hated Hillary.
Honest question, how does he push the platform left by getting blown out week after week? His best position of leverage was a week ago, it's going to diminish as time goes on.
Not sure what leverage he has left at this point. Biden can effectively ignore him and it won't matter.
Yes, the people who are disappointed that we have to live with yet another 4 years of a status quo president are just so awful. But hey, a little corporate welfare never hurt anyone right?I'd argue they vote because they do give a fuck. They don't just bitch and complain on social media.
I really am shocked at the numbrs, it's wonder that hate didn't take physical form
It's not that they'll change persay as the 10-14% that vote in primaries aren't representative of the other 86-90%.You kids act like young peoples mindsets stay the same as you age.
He's gonna primary Biden?
I'll do it for Slayven: People really, really, really, really, really hated Hillary.
I put a lot of the very little money I had in equal amounts to Liz and Bernie when each of them was leading because I need the things they were fighting for. I've tried my best to be respectful and accepting but the way people on this site have reacted to the way this has all gone down has shaken some of my more positive beliefs about humanity and the nature of this community.
Most people vote by mail most likely
nope they were still by far the smallest group.
hes seen enough
They did more than usual.
After two major economic downturns in about 10 years I doubt Democratic ones anyway will ever end up like the way Boomers are now.You kids act like young peoples mindsets stay the same as you age.
I have zero sympathy if they refuse to vote.Yes, the people who are disappointed that we have to live with yet another 4 years of a status quo president are just so awful. But hey, a little corporate welfare never hurt anyone right?
Yeah disagree on both points. Sanders hanging on when it's over and becoming less popular and relevant doesn't give him more leverage. And from a policy standpoint, they're both bottlenecked by the senate. I still think Biden drives more progressive policy, by having more ability to elect democratic senators, and then build coalitions to actually pass laws. Sanders supporters greatly overestimate what he could actually do.
This. The party's got some healing and war planning to do.
Assuming his health hold's up, he'll be a fossil. He's made his point and it's mobilized a lot of young people. At some point it needs to be about the movement and not the person leading it.Biden might only do one term.
And even if he didn't, I wouldn't put it past Bernie.
It's not going to make the moderates all that comfortable with taking a hard left. I don't think he'll de-legitimize the entire movement, but having voters resoundly reject him ain't helping.I voted Bernie, but it would have been so much better to get out after last Tuesday's demolishing. Losing major states by 20+% again to Joe Biden is overall going to do real damage to the Progressive wing of the party. It's just showing that his wins were a mirage and it's alarming the demographics that do not vote for him. He's going to exit this race with a whimper. It sucks. Every day he's losing political capital to hopefully move the party more progressive.
His endorsement will be as sincere as the one for Hillary.do you actually want him to 'go away' and stay silent in the general or should he drop out and support biden
Bernie ain't Obama.
That is the point. It's not about Bernie's ego; it's about trying to get Democrats to support good policy. As soon as Sanders suspends his campaign and endorses Biden, Biden will swing even further to the middle.
The supposition that lives would be the same under President Sanders and under President Biden is as ridiculous as supposing we'd be just as bad off as we are now if Kasich (or Jeb) were in the Oval Office.
thanks, obama
You kids act like young peoples mindsets stay the same as you age.
Agreed.I'm 52. I don't think every Presidential candidate remaining should be over 70.
He should have gotten out after the first Super Tuesday. He had no shot.I voted Bernie, but it would have been so much better to get out after last Tuesday's demolishing.