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blackw0lf48

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Whoever wrote this tweet for Biden should be fired for sharing dangerous misinformation.



And if it was Biden himself well then it's a good indication of why he shouldn't be president.
 

Loudninja

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Who fault do you think it is we still have to do this crap? This shit should have been delayed as well.

Either you wont people to vote during this bullshit or not, something that we should not be doing at all.
 
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Tamanon

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Eh, it'd be better if there was no election. I don't necessarily see the problem with that message. US isn't on lockdown, and polling places will be taking extra precautions.
 

DrewFu

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While true I suppose it's all fair until Bernie drops out or if Biden takes a wide enough margin that the media starts to ignore Bernie as it would be a waste of time
The media will never ignore Bernie, as long as he is in. The story will just shift to why hasn't Bernie dropped out yet.
 

DrewFu

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If Bernie doesn't drop out after Tuesday, then I'm going to start getting nervous that he may not drop out at all, and go 3rd party.
 

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If Bernie doesn't drop out after Tuesday, then I'm going to start getting nervous that he may not drop out at all, and go 3rd party.

Bernie likes Biden a lot and will definitely not go third-party.

It's just Bernie has a massive ego and believes in turning around ridiculous/impossible odds (like almost all presidential candidates) .

But he should drop out after Tuesday, this is going to just be really stupid if he stays in after losing Florida by 40 points.
 
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Super baffled by Bernie fans getting mad at Biden encouraging people to vote.

You do know what would really lower voter turnout on Tuesday right?

Like, there's a very straight forward way to do that where a candidate losing delegates by 8% and losing in the polls by 24% just drops out and declares the race over.
 

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I doubt he will, either, but with his ego, nothing would surprise me anymore.

Genuine question: What do you mean by this? Do you think, from the bottom of your heart, that Sanders is running specifically for personal gain as opposed to attempting to help the people who support him? And if so, what specific reasons caused you to believe this?
 

DrewFu

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Genuine question: What do you mean by this? Do you think, from the bottom of your heart, that Sanders is running specifically for personal gain as opposed to attempting to help the people who support him?
Bruh, the second he had his heart attack at 78 years old, he should have dropped out. To stay in the race at this point, plus his recent health scare, makes zero sense beyond ego. I'm not saying he doesn't want to help people, but there are far better ways to do so than staying in this race.
 

eathdemon

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Bruh, the second he had his heart attack at 78 years old, he should have dropped out. To stay in the race at this point, plus his recent health scare, makes zero sense beyond ego. I'm not saying he doesn't want to help people, but there are far better ways to do so than staying in this race.
yup he cant win all sanders is doing is putting peoples lives at risk.
 

Zombegoast

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I'm confused - Should Biden be telling people NOT to vote?
Super baffled by Bernie fans getting mad at Biden encouraging people to vote.

You do know what would really lower voter turnout on Tuesday right?

Like, there's a very straight forward way to do that where a candidate losing delegates by 8% and losing in the polls by 24% just drops out and declares the race over.

Instead of saying "If you're healthy and not at the risk of being infected(Everyone is at risk), vote"

The message should be "Avoid hand to hand contact and bring hand sanitizer to reduce the risk of being infected while voting Tuesday".
 

eathdemon

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There's telling people to not vote and there's spreading misinformation regarding a life or death situation for many people.
whers sander's responsability in all this? I have seen a bunk of his supporters in my timeline asking people who are home to phone for him. he cant win, he is just putting peoples lives at risk, he should drop out.
 

PMS341

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Bruh, the second he had his heart attack at 78 years old, he should have dropped out. To stay in the race at this point, plus his recent health scare, makes zero sense beyond ego. I'm not saying he doesn't want to help people, but there are far better ways to do so than staying in this race.

But what reasons do you think him continuing post-heart attack are ego-based? Both him and Biden have health concerns, of course, but given that our two front runners are nearly 80 years old, that is to be expected, yeah? Why would him wanting to work towards policies that benefit all Americans from the get-go be seen as ego-based, when it specifically focuses on the working class or marginalized? His campaign slogan is literally "Not me, us".

Either way, I'm sure the debate tonight will give some clarity on who the sharper candidate is in general at this point, and you and I both know that Sanders is a better speaker overall.
 

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yup he cant win all sanders is doing is putting peoples lives at risk.
More like it's inevitable and from twitter verse, the only shot bernie has at winning is by doing good in today's debate and scaring away the old people from voting because of the virus. (Nobody should have to not vote because of this thing as again should have been postponed by those states)
 

Kyra

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I'm confused - Should Biden be telling people NOT to vote?
I'm torn here. Noone should be saying go out and be next to people that's irresponsible but voting is something I would run through a bullet storm to do so maybe he should have worded this better. Saying if you don't have symptoms so please go and vote is not a good look. Showing no symptoms you can still be a carrier.
 

eathdemon

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More like it's inevitable and from twitter verse, the only shot bernie has at winning is by doing good in today's debate and scaring away the old people from voting because of the virus. (Nobody should have to not vote because of this thing as again should have been postponed by those states)
postponed til when. in pratice it will be atleast 3 months?
 

ZedLilIndPum

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I have a hunch that the folks who least believe in the seriousness of COVID-19 are the most likely to be comfortable with going out and voting. In other words, THANK FUCKING GOD the general election isn't for another 8 months.
 

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Avenger
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whers sander's responsability in all this? I have seen a bunk of his supporters in my timeline asking people who are home to phone for him. he cant win, he is just putting peoples lives at risk, he should drop out.

ironically now more than ever we need Bernie visible in the race to educate more of America on M4A and transformative policies this country will need to get us through our worst disaster since the Depression.

Biden was the guy to make us sing and hold hands that we defeated Trump. He is not FDR2, he is not who will be up to the task of fixing the country which will be broken beyond repair.
 

DrewFu

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But what reasons do you think him continuing post-heart attack are ego-based? Both him and Biden have health concerns, of course, but given that our two front runners are nearly 80 years old, that is to be expected, yeah? Why would him wanting to work towards policies that benefit all Americans from the get-go be seen as ego-based, when it specifically focuses on the working class or marginalized? His campaign slogan is literally "Not me, us".

Either way, I'm sure the debate tonight will give some clarity on who the sharper candidate is in general at this point, and you and I both know that Sanders is a better speaker overall.
I have to explain how continuing to run for the most powerful and important position on earth, at 78, after recently suffering a heart attack is egotistical? No rationally thinking person would think that makes the smallest amount of sense.
 

eathdemon

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ironically now more than ever we need Bernie visible in the race to educate more of America on M4A and transformative policies this country will need to get us through our worst disaster since the Depression.
I am not talking policy, I am talking as a matter of reality, he cant win. asking people to risk their lives needlessly is dumb.
 
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"If you are feeling healthy, not showing symptoms, and not at risk of being exposed to COVID-19" - The campaign of the presumed nominee for president

THIS is who so many people on here are comfortable backing? How many people will receive this information and internalize the complete lie that "feeling healthy and not showing symptoms" means you are safe, or that ANYONE is "not at risk of being exposed to COVID-19", and go on to become new vectors putting potentially thousands more in hospitals? How can anyone defend this man or this campaign at this lol rhetorical question. For the record I don't think the Sanders campaign should be encouraging people to vote either, safety precautions or not. Both campaigns need to do the right thing and call for the Tuesday primaries to be postponed but you don't see Sanders' army of mean troll staffers or whatever spreading false information during a pandemic that WILL GET PEOPLE KILLED.
 

PMS341

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I have to explain how continuing to run for the most powerful and important position on earth, at 78, after recently suffering a heart attack is egotistical? No rationally thinking person would think that makes the smallest amount of sense.

If it hasn't affected his campaigning, then why should he? He is still fighting for the same people regardless. And again, concern-trolling about Bernie's health when the other frontrunner is Biden, who not even weeks ago told people he was running for Senate without a hint of irony, is not exactly the paragon of health himself. It sounds like you are putting personal grievances ahead of reality. There is no evidence to suggest Sanders, who's campaign slogan is "Not me, us", is running a campaign specifically for egotistical purposes. It's not like he's saying "It's His Turn" or something.
 

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Bernie needs to hit Biden very hard tonight on his health care plan and past support for cutting Medicare and Medicaid. It's time to take the kid gloves off!
 

DrewFu

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If it hasn't affected his campaigning, then why should he? He is still fighting for the same people regardless. And again, concern-trolling about Bernie's health when the other frontrunner is Biden, who not even weeks ago told people he was running for Senate without a hint of irony, is not exactly the paragon of health himself. It sounds like you are putting personal grievances ahead of reality.
I'm not concern trolling. If Biden were getting his butt kicked, I would say it's egotistical for him to stay in too. And while Bernie's heart attack may not be affecting his campaign, that still doesn't change future risk. Both of these guys running at their current ages is bad enough. You throw in that one of them recently had a heart attack while speaking on stage - there is serious risk there that goes well beyond Biden having a speaking mistake.
 

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Avenger
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I am not talking policy, I am talking as a matter of reality, he cant win. asking people to risk their lives needlessly is dumb.

that's not on Bernie, that's on states that don't allow vote by mail. Even with in person voting, states can take precautions such as sanitizing voting equipment, keeping booths apart, spacing out lines, etc. Do you think this will all be better by November? spoiler: nope

plus lots of states are delaying primaries

if this is so done, why is Biden telling people lies that could kill them to get them to vote?
 

eathdemon

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I'm not concern trolling. If Biden were getting his butt kicked, I would say it's egotistical for him to stay in too. And while Bernie's heart attack may not be affecting his campaign, that still doesn't change future risk. Both of these guys running at their current ages is bad enough.
thats the point people here arent getting. its not about sander's heath, its the risk he is making people go throw, even though he has no shot at winning.
 
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"If you are feeling healthy, not showing symptoms, and not at risk of being exposed to COVID-19" - The campaign of the presumed nominee for president

THIS is who so many people on here are comfortable backing? How many people will receive this information and internalize the complete lie that "feeling healthy and not showing symptoms" means you are safe, or that ANYONE is "not at risk of being exposed to COVID-19", and go on to become new vectors putting potentially thousands more in hospitals? How can anyone defend this man or this campaign at this lol rhetorical question. For the record I don't think the Sanders campaign should be encouraging people to vote either, safety precautions or not. Both campaigns need to do the right thing and call for the Tuesday primaries to be postponed but you don't see Sanders' army of mean troll staffers or whatever spreading false information during a pandemic that WILL GET PEOPLE KILLED.

.............

Do you know what would allow even fewer people to get sick and come in contact with sick people.
 

xenocide

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I'm confused by this notion that there's tens of millions of voters that don't understand the concept of M4A when it's been the core of Bernie's platform and was the focus of a majority of the Dem debates. Like do people really think there's a lot of engaged voters that don't understand M4A? Because that seems unlikely.
 

Kyra

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I'm confused by this notion that there's tens of millions of voters that don't understand the concept of M4A when it's been the core of Bernie's platform and was the focus of a majority of the Dem debates. Like do people really think there's a lot of engaged voters that don't understand M4A? Because that seems unlikely.
I'd need data to suggest this is the case. I feel that suggesting that you average voter doesn't understand policy is the easiest bet ever.
 

eathdemon

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I'm confused by this notion that there's tens of millions of voters that don't understand the concept of M4A when it's been the core of Bernie's platform and was the focus of a majority of the Dem debates. Like do people really think there's a lot of engaged voters that don't understand M4A? Because that seems unlikely.
yup he got his message out, he cant win, best way to protect people at this point is to admit deafeat.
 
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I'm confused by this notion that there's tens of millions of voters that don't understand the concept of M4A when it's been the core of Bernie's platform and was the focus of a majority of the Dem debates. Like do people really think there's a lot of engaged voters that don't understand M4A? Because that seems unlikely.
Something like 40-60% of the Dem electorate is unaware that Bernie is a socialist, per polling I've heard cited. I wouldn't bet on much of anything.
 

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Avenger
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I'm confused by this notion that there's tens of millions of voters that don't understand the concept of M4A when it's been the core of Bernie's platform and was the focus of a majority of the Dem debates. Like do people really think there's a lot of engaged voters that don't understand M4A? Because that seems unlikely.

relating m4a to coronavirus will open some eyes. That's new to the discussion. The fact that many countries with singlepayer were able to handle this better than us.
 
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