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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Probably. Taxes will go up to cover more people under Medicare and offer more subsidies, and since insurance companies will loose money if there is a Public Option, they will probably raise it on people with employer sponsored coverage. Or, they'll just raise deductibles.
Trump has always confused the stock market with the whole economy.
One benefit of Bernie staying in is maybe he can light a fire under Biden's ass to start preparing seriously for one on one debates.
What message? The support my ideas but don't come to vote? All he is doing is creating more drama if anything, he benefits nothing by staying in.
I'm so tired. I'm so tired.
He's not just going to do that, though. He's going to spend months complaining about being treated unfairly and whining about the DNC.
He could just drop out of the race and keep holding rallies to spread his message, too. There's nothing stopping him from doing that. But him continuing to compete and continuing to ring the victim bell instead of working together with the Democrats to stop Trump isn't helping anyone.
Jeeeesus
"IT IS TRUE WE ARE NOT WINNING OLDER VOTERS. BUT WE ARE WINNING YOUNGER VOTERS."
Yes... but they are not voting lol
"IT IS TRUE WE ARE NOT WINNING OLDER VOTERS. BUT WE ARE WINNING YOUNGER VOTERS."
Yes... but they are not voting lol
Is there any precedent for candidates not having that debate in a primary, at least in the Democratic one?
Virus going crazy and they already cancelled rallies for both Bernie and Biden...
Virus going crazy and they already cancelled rallies for both Bernie and Biden...
The longer he stays in the more leverage will lose. Not to mention burning bridges.
He's had two years to do that. Now it's time to get behind the person who's responsibility it is to take down the current administration.
It's not a great look that Bernie is calling for more people to congregate in public spaces at basically the same moment the WHO is officially declaring a pandemic.
The debate is getting canceled due to the virus and even if there wasn't the virus, Biden wouldn't show up.
Bernie going in on Biden... Biden is going to have to answer some pointed questions about his record and policies in the one-on-one debate.
He absolutely NEEDS to stay in and confront Biden about his policy decisions via the debate.
If anything this will put Biden on the defense and try to sway the people who do NOT want to vote for him.
If anything this will put Biden on the defense and try to sway the people who do NOT want to vote for him.
Maybe in between asking all these questions Bernie can finally figure out how he's actually going to pay for all the things he's promised without outlining how he's going to do it.
They already decided there would be no audience or spin room for the debate.
Bernie: "Joe, what are you going to do about...x, y, z"
Joe: "I'm going to beat Trump and win back the Senate."
Joe: "I'm going to beat Trump and win back the Senate."
I question the perception of Bernie damaging the nominee in a reality where only the last 24-48 hours seems to matter.
I'm supporting Biden for president these days, but I don't have a problem with Sanders staying in the race. Sure, it "hurts Biden" from an electoral perspective in the 2020 general election, but Sanders has said from the start that this isn't just about him being elected president, but about a movement, and that movement is to pull the Democratic party to the left. While from like, a purely political point of view I'd rather see Biden built up as strong as possible for November, if Sanders is committed to his mission -- and I think he is -- then it's consistent for him to try to pull Biden left. For what it's worth, this is why I didn't blame Warren for not suddenly bowing out in the run up to Super Tuesday, they're running ideological campaigns where they're arguing that ideology and policy matters. It's consistent for candidates running ideological and policy campaigns to want to pursue that policy.
But it also depends on the nature of the debate and my opinion could change based on how that debate works out. Debates have largely proven to not matter much, both in 2016 and 2020, so we'll see.
But it also depends on the nature of the debate and my opinion could change based on how that debate works out. Debates have largely proven to not matter much, both in 2016 and 2020, so we'll see.
True. He should stay in as long as he wants, honestly. It won't materially harm Dems, Biden, or their candidates' supporters.
No. Hurting Dems chances of uniting against Trump so he can stump for a few more weeks is not more important. The sooner his supporters come to terms with the fact he isn't going to be the nominee, the better.
It is set to not have an audience. It's going to be weird. Like the old days when a debate was in a tv studio.
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