to be fair, this could change by tomorrow
he doesn't want to say anything definitive tonight
So what?Do you remember how long he stuck around 4 years ago, well after he had no shot?
Obama is. His fucking old ass sidekick gets to win mostly based on him, lol.Joe Biden is a political rockstar. There are no two ways about it.
Because he was literally the best President we've had since World War 2.
That's the problem, only concerned with beating Trump. Who cares about climate change, the 500,000 homeless, tens of millions uninsured, 80,000 years dying each year from lack of coverage $1.5 trillion and counting of crushing student debt, tuition rates increasingly becoming completely affordable to working class people, and broken/racist justice system in our country. I'm sure Joe Biden will get right on all that. It's not like his senate record is full of votes making every single one of those problems worse or anything.BS. People just care about beating Trump and didn't think Sanders could do it. If you can't even understand the electorate you're competing for, how can you even hope to win? Progressives constantly show they have no fucking idea what America actually is. They fall in love with candidates not ideas. You think Republicans care about the wall or its more about Trump? You think Democrats cared about the ACÁ as much as they loved Obama? Bernie Sanders was a terrible standard bearer for some very popular ideas. Progressivism needs a better standard bearer. You think I don't want M4A or the green new deal? I do, but what does it matter if Trump just destroys Bernie in November. Bernie's coalition theory argument has completely failed. He won a single primary in New Hampshire. Why would I bet my families future on a someone who can't win?
Enjoy your facile and empty win as your system crumbles around you, i'm sure Joe winning because of an economic collapse and then immediately just going and doing what Obama did but again, and worse, certainly won't end badly for the decaying liberal project.
The truth....then....is this: Democrats had "total control" of the House of Representatives from 2009-2011, 2 full years. Democrats, and therefore, Obama, had "total control" of the Senate from September 24, 2009 until February 4, 2010. A grand total of 4 months.
Did President Obama have "total control" of Congress? Yes, for 4 entire months. And it was during that very small time window that Obamacare was passed in the Senate with 60 all-Democratic votes.
Genuine question: who's the best president we've had since WW2?
Biden was a Dem rockstar before Obama, it's precisely why he picked him as his VP.Obama is. His fucking old ass sidekick gets to win mostly based on him, lol.
Forgot about Cali, so I accept I was off there. Yeah he got some wins I forgot about, doesn't take away from my point that Americans vote for candidates not ideas, and this is proven election after election. If Americans voted for ideas, Warren would be running away with the nomination.This is just factually incorrect. He also won California, Utah, and Colorado.
Seriously though, I don't understand the personality cult for Obama. People wonder how Republicans can just ignore/justify everything Trump does but then somehow have a blind spot where they try to downplay the foreign policy of the Obama administration, like Obama is not your friend, he has no idea who you are, it's not like he needs to be defended from war crime accusations, he's not going to go to jail.
That's a low barBecause he was literally the best President we've had since World War 2.
JFK seems like an easy pickGenuine question: who's the best president we've had since WW2?
I mean we didn't talk about that BECAUSE THAT WASN'T WHAT WAS ON THE LINE at the moment. SOON, that will be AND THEN we will also focus on that.Unless a liberal or progressive president has the Senate as well as the House on his side, there's little you can expect in terms of radical change. No matter who is governing.
I mean... what other contenders are there
I'll post in here. Deal with it.I ain't here to be your cathartic punching bag. Bad faith trolling gets called out. Deal with it
Go ahead and make the Evil Empire: American Militarism in the Age of Digital Death thread. I'll be there to hash it all out.
Sure, but good luck getting people to vote by saying that.I wish more people cared about the people of Yemen and the rest of the region which Obama's admin contributed untold suffering to.
Obama was definitely better than JFK. Bay of Pigs?
I mean we didn't talk about that BECAUSE THAT WASN'T WHAT WAS ON THE LINE at the moment. SOON, that will be AND THEN we will also focus on that.
They said before the vote that it will probably take until tomorrow for the vote to come in.
Genuine question: who's the best president we've had since WW2?
We have like 3 weeks to send in our ballots, so they can pre-count most of them.Washington really puts other states to shame with their speed of counting votes. Gotta look into voting from home.
Genuine question: who's the best president we've had since WW2?
Not so much sad as dumbfounding. Where do these people live? Twitter I guess.
It was so bizarre that at the beginning of this primary almost all the candidates except Biden were all trying to shit on Obama. Dude has like 90+ percent approval by democrats... and you think dunking on him will win you the democratic nomination? Lawl.
Well, yes. I could go with Vice President Joe "War Crimes in the Middle East" Biden tho
Well Iowa is... Uh... Shit.Washington really puts other states to shame with their speed of counting votes. Gotta look into voting from home.
I don't know, he tried to repeatedly overthrow the Cuban government and assassinate Castro because they had the gall to want their own independent choices and got closer to nuclear warfare than any other president in history.
LBJ actually got a lot of shit done domestically despite his horrid foreign policy.
It hasn't been that great since FDR really like you implied.
LBJ actually got a lot of shit done domestically despite his horrid foreign policy.
It hasn't been that great since FDR really like you implied.