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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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AA vote.
And younger voters not voting.
Everything else is a distant 3rd. Including endorsements.
FOR EVERYONE UPSET ABOUT BERNIE
It's okay to be upset. Be frustrated and angry. Get that anger out tonight, and then channel it into something better tomorrow. You're angry because you noticed something was deeply wrong with America, and the rest of the world, and you feel like you came this close to potentially solving it, and fell short. That's okay. Now it's time to get back out there.
Bernie Sanders didn't invent socialism. He awoke millions of people to the horrible truth about the world, but he's just one man following in the footsteps of those who came before him. This is a collective effort, one in which the downtrodden across America and the rest of the world will need to unite and work together. Bernie woke millions of us up, and we're not going back to sleep. Or at least, I'm not. Are you?
Get angry tonight, and then get active tomorrow. Here are some things to consider doing:
1. Find other like-minded people in your local area and start organizing. People you met through the Sanders campaign, your local DSA, etc. Get to know your local community. Figure out what issues you can start working on today at the local level.
2. Support the efforts of unions and other organized labor in your area, when possible.
3. Promote and run candidates for local office. Maybe even run yourself! America has a disease that infects it to the root, and so we need to start at the root, which is not the White House. When your local community comes to view its socialist legislators as good, helpful people, they will spread the word. If you choose to run for a higher office than local government, you'll probably be forced into running as a Democrat. That's fine. We will co-opt them from within. It's already starting, in Congressional districts around the country.
4. Educate yourself on history. Read books about socialism, Communism, Marxism, anarchism, etc. Read theory from older time periods, and the thoughts of modern scholars and diverse thinkers (i.e. not just white dudes). The Socialism OT here on ERA has a lot of resources. The education system and media in your country have brainwashed you and lied to you for your entire life. You need to start over from scratch.
5. Promote your values. Unlike the empty suits in Washington, we have a system of values that guides our principles and our political goals. Inform your friends, family, coworkers, anyone that might listen. Make it clear that your beliefs are based on what is good and just, not that you want free weed or whatever stereotype they have about socialists.
This fight is not over. It's not even close to over. This fight has been going on for a very long time, since long before any of us were born. It wasn't going to end with this election even if Bernie Sanders won. Get mad, then get active.
Your livelihood and your future have been stolen from you. Go out and do something productive about it.
It's okay to be upset. Be frustrated and angry. Get that anger out tonight, and then channel it into something better tomorrow. You're angry because you noticed something was deeply wrong with America, and the rest of the world, and you feel like you came this close to potentially solving it, and fell short. That's okay. Now it's time to get back out there.
Bernie Sanders didn't invent socialism. He awoke millions of people to the horrible truth about the world, but he's just one man following in the footsteps of those who came before him. This is a collective effort, one in which the downtrodden across America and the rest of the world will need to unite and work together. Bernie woke millions of us up, and we're not going back to sleep. Or at least, I'm not. Are you?
Get angry tonight, and then get active tomorrow. Here are some things to consider doing:
1. Find other like-minded people in your local area and start organizing. People you met through the Sanders campaign, your local DSA, etc. Get to know your local community. Figure out what issues you can start working on today at the local level.
2. Support the efforts of unions and other organized labor in your area, when possible.
3. Promote and run candidates for local office. Maybe even run yourself! America has a disease that infects it to the root, and so we need to start at the root, which is not the White House. When your local community comes to view its socialist legislators as good, helpful people, they will spread the word. If you choose to run for a higher office than local government, you'll probably be forced into running as a Democrat. That's fine. We will co-opt them from within. It's already starting, in Congressional districts around the country.
4. Educate yourself on history. Read books about socialism, Communism, Marxism, anarchism, etc. Read theory from older time periods, and the thoughts of modern scholars and diverse thinkers (i.e. not just white dudes). The Socialism OT here on ERA has a lot of resources. The education system and media in your country have brainwashed you and lied to you for your entire life. You need to start over from scratch.
5. Promote your values. Unlike the empty suits in Washington, we have a system of values that guides our principles and our political goals. Inform your friends, family, coworkers, anyone that might listen. Make it clear that your beliefs are based on what is good and just, not that you want free weed or whatever stereotype they have about socialists.
This fight is not over. It's not even close to over. This fight has been going on for a very long time, since long before any of us were born. It wasn't going to end with this election even if Bernie Sanders won. Get mad, then get active.
Your livelihood and your future have been stolen from you. Go out and do something productive about it.
Fox News and right wing media correctly identified her as a future threat to their party and started laying down the foundation for decades of smears against her.
Remember that one time she had a fun music video in college? Crazy socialist.
There wasn't voter suppression (no not even with that line in Michigan. This is the first year same day registration was done and early voting was open since January 25.)
Ok, so hang on. The youth vote is historically terrible and now it's terrible again but this time it's only due to voter suppression? Based on what information?
Bernard would have intervened in Iraq just like the neo-liberal Obama did.
IT'S NOT HYPERBOLE. WE LITERALLY HAD ELECTIONS IN 2018 THAT PROVED IT'S NOT.
he definitely has support, that i understand. but the electoral college is what it is. he loses the midwest/pa and he has no route to victory.
even if he wins alabama or wherever 100%-0%
Young people are more susceptible to voter suppression than African Americans?
Michigan is one of the key swing states in November. If you dont vote Biden in November you are handing Trump the election.
Sanders was not only very competitive if not outright winning in the AA vote in the first three states (including Nevada) but was polling very well with the AA vote nationally and in the states he lost tonight not so long ago. Any other theories? Surely this isn't hard
This is the first primary that I have ever really paid close attention to and it is crushing to see my candidate not do well. Sad to see Bernie perform like this but glad that he ran to push his platform and educate people about what progressive ideas are possible. I hope that in my lifetime we get singe payer. Polls have shown that the general public supports it, we just need to get the politicians in place to make it happen.
In a weird round about way, I am kind of glad if it isn't Bernie, Biden gets the nomination. I cannot see him getting two terms at his age so that gives us another chance to keep pushing for more liberal ideas.
In a weird round about way, I am kind of glad if it isn't Bernie, Biden gets the nomination. I cannot see him getting two terms at his age so that gives us another chance to keep pushing for more liberal ideas.
You really want to enact progressive change? Biden will be a rubber stamp for whatever a Dem congress passes if the Senate flips. So get Biden in, Trump out, and get progressives in congress, and Republicans out. Very simple, just requires more than tweets to help out.
For same day registration? The first time it's been allowed in Michigan primaries.
It doesn't talk about where parentless children will be held espically on an influx like 2014 nor does supporting alternatives mean halting/changing current operations
That's the part that's the most frustrating about the progressive movement. This mentality of "we have the moral high ground so things should just happen, we don't have to put in the work to win".
I would love free college and free healthcare, but without a congressional backbone that shit is never gonna happen.
3h + wait time to cast a vote is not acceptable in a democracy
Apparently, it's hard. Because you're wrong, so....
Tell, me how large is the AA vote in IA and NV? Surely this isn't hard.
Just read the data. It's all there.
So what races should I support now that we're going with a bumbling old man as our president.
Exactly... wtf? No. Youth need to get out and vote more PERIOD. It's always been bad. And yes voter suppression is terrible. But on top of working to end voter suppression we flat out need more young voters to get out there and vote. No way will I cede that absolutely VALID CRITICISM just because voter suppression happens. It happens to my demographic too, and we are still damn responsible for making sure we get there to vote.
Its possible to be critical of voter suppression techniques while also holding people to their civic responsibility. Pretending that it isn't is some grade A BS.
Because of same day voter registration? You still have not answered the question.
Well I can honestly say I didn't see this all coming 2 weeks ago, I thought it would be Sanders without all of the consolidation and endorsements that all came together so fast.
I really do feel like Biden can beat Trump, especially with the virus and the economy, neither of those things are going to go away anytime soon and Trump seems to be handling both poorly.
I really do feel like Biden can beat Trump, especially with the virus and the economy, neither of those things are going to go away anytime soon and Trump seems to be handling both poorly.
This 200%. Stop trying to put all your eggs in one basket with Sanders.
again that's the line for same day registration and this is the first time it's been allowed and early voting was open since January 25th. Surprise, there aren't an infinite number of volunteers.
This. This. This...and honestly with Biden at top of ticket, the senate is actually in play.
No because our political and economic system is completely incapable of adapting to our rapidly changing world. Part of this is due to political polarization, and part of this is due to the fact that our constitution is piece of shit that is designed to prevent necessary change. Even if Bernie won the presidency we would still be heading towards an inevitable collapse. The advantage of a Bernie presidency would not have been things like M4A or free college (those things would not have passed), but it would have given us an opportunity to build class consciousness and solidarity for whatever comes after the end of the American experiment.
Those are probably same day registrations in which case yes a long wait on election day is to be expected.
Oh, shit. I forgot we don't live in a country where young people aren't working incredibly long hours, lacking transportation to voting locations, or lacking fund for child care.
Older voters can come out because they can afford to. Saying a lack of youth vote is solely due to laziness is fucking dumb.
The right went psycho mode over a video of her dancing.
She is going to get dragged through the mud by them just like Hillary did.
man must be some busy schedule to not be able to spare an hour in 2 months and somehow 30+ year olds don't have busy schedules
So yes, you think there are more systemic and political forces stopping young people from voting than people of color?
If you are a progressive: the lesson here is that we're not winning a national election any time soon.
You know what we can win? Local elections. With good campaigners, strong youth support, and some solid candidates, every solid blue state can have an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders in the Senate, and every urban district can have an AOC or an Ayanna Pressley in the House. You need those prominent voices to advocate for left-wing legislation. You need that base of strong, national leaders to forcibly drag America out of the stone age.
"The president is all that matters" is a trap most Americans fall into. It's just one front, and we should be focusing our efforts where we can make a difference.
You know what we can win? Local elections. With good campaigners, strong youth support, and some solid candidates, every solid blue state can have an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders in the Senate, and every urban district can have an AOC or an Ayanna Pressley in the House. You need those prominent voices to advocate for left-wing legislation. You need that base of strong, national leaders to forcibly drag America out of the stone age.
"The president is all that matters" is a trap most Americans fall into. It's just one front, and we should be focusing our efforts where we can make a difference.
...or their State House and State Senate.
...or on their City Council.
Class consciousness? That's like saying electing Obama brought the country racial understanding. The other team isn't playing that game.
That's on a college campus so transportation isn't really a good excuse. They also have early voting and a whole host of stuff. It's an issue of apathy more than anything else.
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