Why? These primaries showed how everybody absolutely loathed her guts.
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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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I like Tammy Baldwin, especially with Wisconsin having a Democrat for Governor at the moment but it would be a long term risk to see if we can find someone else who can hold that seat.
It's been hard to watch, but not too surprising. The whole "Bernie Sanders' online supporters are toxic" myth isn't really a myth. At this point, it's about damaging Biden as much as possible because their candidate is getting massacred. Straight out of the Republican playbook.
He's the third most liberal Senator too which puts him just after probably Sanders and Warren.
That's probably as big of a win as we could get since Biden might only be a one term president.
california late in the primaries + ongoing FBI investigation + success in pushing the democratic platform left as he won more primaries and caucuses
If anything, tonight just reaffirms how weak she was as a candidate.
No hard feelings, at least not from me. I mean I'm still a bit disappointed that Bernie lost, but I'm more than ok with Biden winning.
Cite one piece of actual quantified data to support this conclusion.
France is still here.
Greece is still here.
Spain is still here.
Britain is still here.
Germany is still here.
Mongolia is still here.
America will absolutely be here in some capacity in 10 years.
Couldn't predict all the low information voters breaking turnout records 👀
"Bernie cuts through".
If only he could cut through to Democratic voters.
yep. It has to sting to see how much you were actually hated.
This is completely disconnected from reality. The primary has repeatedly shown that much of Sanders' support in 2016 was actually just "Not Hillary" support, and this time around it's all gone to Biden instead.
Yeah was gonna say if anything she should be taking tonight personally. Again.
Mods, can yall please do something about some of these overdramatic hot takes? It's getting absurd in here.
biden is winning where it really counts in specific states, especially with black voters (and in some states like Va, women voters)
fucking lol
fucking lol
Is there any validity to this? I'm a Bernie supporter but I'm more than happy to vote for Biden. Fuck I'm even going to donate to his campaign.
Biden needs Obama's support plastered all over his campaign and he'll very likely win.
Otherwise, I think people are underestimating Trump and to think that "people are scared shitless of Trump that's why the voter turnout for Biden is so high" is just the same bubble thought process that made Bernie so "big". The more likely reason is that both Hillary and Bernie were just very unattractive candidates last season.
Otherwise, I think people are underestimating Trump and to think that "people are scared shitless of Trump that's why the voter turnout for Biden is so high" is just the same bubble thought process that made Bernie so "big". The more likely reason is that both Hillary and Bernie were just very unattractive candidates last season.
Biden's platform sounds great but Democrats have a nasty habit of playing progressive in an election year and then going right back into GOP-Lite mode thereafter.
That said, Bernie and his movement most certainly pulled the Democrats back and away from the center and as much as I hate voting for Joe, it is what it is.
That said, Bernie and his movement most certainly pulled the Democrats back and away from the center and as much as I hate voting for Joe, it is what it is.
Then why is he getting demolished in a Democratic primary where the voters are more favorable to his ideals compared to the General?
Sometimes 1+1 = 2
yeah, i wasn;t talking about his response. And idk, there's so much dumb shit people believe I don't mind someone calling it for what it is, as long as they are in the right. Fox News, antivax, climate change denial, "they took our jobs/will take our guns", fuck all of it. No more coddling.
Nobody is talking about Biden's policy. It's literally the rhetoric that looks bad. Every single conversation on gun control has always been the ultra palatable "Everyone agrees on common sense gun control. Nobody's taking your guns." It's the Democratic strategy towards gun control and it obviously works considering the polling around "common-sense gun control" in the past few years.
When your civility candidate is swearing and threatening someone with violence on video, it fuels the fear mongering tactics around gun control. It undoes the soft rhetoric the Dems do around gun control. It hurts the civility image.
Lol true.
I just meant it's pretty obvious she still has a grudge against Bernie so she's gotta be happy he lost.
His campaign has been billed as Obama 2.0 or 4 more years of Obama from the start. You can bet your ass that Obama is going to be front and center in the fall.
Seriously. Tonight proves pretty much any generic non-Hillary Dem could have beat Trump in 2016.
You, uh, do realize that the minorities are overwhelmingly backing Biden, right?
If nothing else, people are severely underestimating just the general inertia of society. Everyone will get up and go to work tomorrow. Everyone will get up and go to work 10 years from now. Civilization isn't collapsing so long as people are fed.
As much as I like AOC, this would be the equivalent of McCain picking Palin.
But white people were the ones who were voting for Bernie.
Biden got 2/3+ of the Black Vote in multiple states. I don't think you can put the blame on Bernie not making it on "white liberals".
I'll be honest with you. I didn't think either candidate - Biden or Bernie - has a shot against Trump.
Not a knock on them. I just think tons of American's like Trump. He's a lot of things, but boring isn't one of them. They like the spectacle of it all. Think people are going to be surprised come next election cycle, and I don't think it's going to be particularly close.
Not a knock on them. I just think tons of American's like Trump. He's a lot of things, but boring isn't one of them. They like the spectacle of it all. Think people are going to be surprised come next election cycle, and I don't think it's going to be particularly close.
There are reasons to believe America as an empire will collapse. Chris Hedges makes good arguments for it. I agree with his arguments for such a thing to happen within 10~20 years. Having Joe Biden as the nominee is not a reason America is arguably in a terminal, insoluble state.
Simmer down on the hyperbole.
Why is that more likely? Trump's approval is terrible relative to every traditional factor influencing presidential approval. 2018 didn't have any of them and turnout among democrats was huge and we destroyed republicans.
100 percent
even dems who have soured against obama will like seeing him talking shit on trump
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