Biden wins with absolutely zero effort and the establishment dead set on him months before anyone could put in a reasonable fight.
Biden wins with absolutely zero effort and the establishment dead set on him months before anyone could put in a reasonable fight.
Depressing as fuck. We will get 8 years of middle of the road policy with the majority stonewalled by GOP anyway.
there's always TulsiNah there needs to be one debate to judge how well Biden does one in one, so that voters have the confidence he can handle Trump.
Fuck.
incredible how right ive been about every single prediction ive ever made in this election. i'm sad as shit but my ego is large
I want you to tell me what part of the question is badly phrased. Right now.He answered a badly phrased question with a badly phrased non-answer.
Obviously Bernie should drop out of the race after tonight.. he won't because he doesn't care about the party, but that is the right thing to do.
Nobody even knows she is running anymore.there's always Tulsi
she's never gonna drop, and has at least one delegate
The Democrats are about to nominate their most liberal nominee ever, but "American politics fail because my guy didn't win"White moderates hate progressive values, black voters want to line up with the safest candidate because the moderates fuck everything up, and the youth don't vote to counter the awful white moderates.
The failure of American politics happening in realtime. And of course some are going to blame this on "low information voters."
The "establishment" did nothing for Biden for months to be nothing. Once he won SC things started moving.
Because the worst we can get is Donald Trump. ...Duh?If the best we can get from people voting is Joe Biden, what the fuck is the point?
To any younger leftists in here feeling the hit: don't despair. This is what we do. The left loses. For each victory, we take 2, 5, 10 losses. We lose, and we lose, and we lose... and then we win, and when we do win, we change the whole game up.
Look at how much the conversation has shifted from 2016 because of the Bernie campaign, and he lost 2016. The same will happen now. And when you do get in there, and you will, everything will change.
Continue the fight. Unionize. Join your local DSA chapter. Talk to your fucking neighbor and find some class solidarity, for his problems are precisely the same problems that afflict you.
The fight doesn't end, and we will not live long enough to see the full results of our struggle come to fruition. We just have to do our best and add to the pile. It's literally all we can do.
They vote for the person not just the policies.By far, the thing I find most puzzling is the widespread support for M4A while voting Biden. How the hell does that make sense? If healthcare is the most important issue for old people, why are they voting for the candidate that doesn't support what they claim to?
b/c other issues matter too. people rarely base their vote on a single issue. they mighrt like sanders m4a, but not is view on trade.By far, the thing I find most puzzling is the widespread support for M4A while voting Biden. How the hell does that make sense? If healthcare is the most important issue for old people, why are they voting for the candidate that doesn't support what they claim to?
There is no reason to hold a debate. Trump WILL NOT debate, regardless of who the nominee is. He will refuse to participate, and his supporters will eat it up.Nah there needs to be one debate to judge how well Biden does one in one, so that voters have the confidence he can handle Trump.
Of course I have no idea what would happen if Biden failed miserably in the debate and voters got freaked out. Can't really replace him.
we need to call back The Hero
Are you being serious with this selfish drama BS? You not liking Biden doesn't mean there is no point in voting.If the best we can get from people voting is Joe Biden, what the fuck is the point?
If the best we can get from people voting is Joe Biden, what the fuck is the point?
??????The Democrats are about to nominate their most liberal nominee ever, but "American politics fail because my guy didn't win"
Worse is somebody like Trump but competent.
So you're saying I'm supposed to be happy with friends and family suffering and dying just because other people might die less? Do you really think that's a good way of campaigning for Biden?
'It's okay bro, your family will die but those more fortunate and wealthier than you will live'.
Pointless to try and shift Biden left. Biden said he'd veto M4A even in the impossible hypothetical that it was passed through the Senate and House. Progressive policy ain't happening in a Biden admin.
The real path is hitting the pavement for progressive candidates in your local elections.
By far, the thing I find most puzzling is the widespread support for M4A while voting Biden. How the hell does that make sense? If healthcare is the most important issue for old people, why are they voting for the candidate that doesn't support what they claim to?
"Progressive" is a meaningless buzzword, if that wasn't clear before.
Either you oppose capitalism or you don't. No more compromise.
"Progressive" is a meaningless buzzword, if that wasn't clear before.
Either you oppose capitalism or you don't. No more compromise.
They also might prefer the Public Option:b/c other issues matter too. people rarely base their vote on a single issue. they mighrt like sanders m4a, but not is view on trade.
By far, the thing I find most puzzling is the widespread support for M4A while voting Biden. How the hell does that make sense? If healthcare is the most important issue for old people, why are they voting for the candidate that doesn't support what they claim to?
The Democrats are about to nominate their most liberal nominee ever, but "American politics fail because my guy didn't win"
It's not a failure just because Biden is going to be the nominee
Savage.
Right wing conspiracy theories help nobody besides Trump.
If Biden is locked in why would the party want to let Bernie take shots at him and potentially lose voters in the general election?
Yeah, he handled the last primary results like a child too, kicked and screamed as long as he could. He's only hurting the party by staying in after tonight.Obviously Bernie should drop out of the race after tonight.. he won't because he doesn't care about the party, but that is the right thing to do.
This also just reiterates that Biden would have crushed Trump in 2016. Hillary lost due to institutional misogyny and an unfair reputation that could not be shaken.
What is with some of the takes in this thread. They're not even hot - they're just bad.